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General differences between Poland and the USA?


mochadot18 15 | 241
18 May 2013 #91
Meathead
I Disagree with that statement it really depends on where you go. most don't cheat just because if you are caught you get expelled from many schools.

Also what kids in,poland never go on their phones during a quiz or test??
Lenka 3 | 2,445
18 May 2013 #92
Also what kids in,poland never go on their phones during a quiz or test??

In my times we prepared ściągawki (cheating sheets) that could have been slipped to the pocket or under your test when the teacher approached your desk. My parents encouraged me to prepere them ( but not to use them!!!) because in order to create good ściągawka/ ściąga you had to orginise the material and re-write it so you basically learnt by that.

Phones are much to big and visible to be useful :)
mochadot18 15 | 241
20 May 2013 #93
oooo Yeah trust me I have cheated many many times, and yeah I did a lot of quick paper cheat sheets. Or else honestly I was the person where I had all my friends do it for me, so they would give me a copy of their own cheat sheet for me to use. I've done the sharing a calc and writing answers, but since i've been in college its just too hard. Teachers are always looking, and its just not worth getting caught. In high school you might just get a zero on that test not expelled like in college.

Are their certain things that you shouldn't do in Poland that will get you arrested that maybe in the the U.S are more common practice??? Like the weird law apps you can get on your phones with the weirdest laws that you never know about.

Also I hear that I think it as like in Germany France or the UK where they have pop out toilets in the streets for guys at night for when they are drunk so that they don't **** all over the building??? Do they have those in Poland Just wondering.
pam
29 May 2013 #94
Are their certain things that you shouldn't do in Poland

On trains there are on the spot fines for travelling without, or not having a validated ticket ( you have to validate your ticket in a machine first ). There are also on the spot fines for what you would term jaywalking. You are meant to cross roads at crossings only ( Don't expect cars to automatically stop either ).

If the police catch you slightly the worse for wear after drinking too much alcohol, you may find yourself a guest for the night in one of Poland's drunk tanks. No mod cons, probably not very nice housemates and a fine to boot. Probably more likely to happen if you are behaving like an idiot in public, so nothing to worry about if you're sensible.

Also I hear that I think it as like in Germany France or the UK where they have pop out toilets in the streets for guys at night for when they are drunk so that they don't **** all over the building??? Do they have those in Poland Just wondering.

You think of the strangest things Mocha!! Can't say if i was contemplating a move to Poland, portable toilets would be something I would be giving much attention to! I've never seen any there, but then I haven't seen any in the UK, and we do have them in some cities.
mochadot18 15 | 241
29 May 2013 #95
OOOOO yeah also my parents where telling me about how the last time they were in Poland which was 15 years ago but still when they went to the movies, they got asked too move out of people's seats because you are assigned seats, is that still true?? And if it is why is it like that, I mean that's just weird i don't wanna get put way up close to the big screen that would just **** me off.
Harry
29 May 2013 #96
So buy a ticket in advance, problem solved.
mochadot18 15 | 241
29 May 2013 #97
Can't say if i was contemplating a move to Poland, portable toilets would be something I would be giving much attention to! I've never seen any there, but then I haven't seen any in the UK, and we do have them in some cities.

Here it is I saw it on the Travel Channel travelchannel.com/video/europes-futuristic-toilets . HOW COOL haha the doctor who lou. Poland should def get them Hell the U.S needs to get emm also lol

So buy a ticket in advance, problem solved.

ooo so you get to pick out your seats?? Why is it like that though?
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
29 May 2013 #98
There are plenty of ToiToi brand protable loos in Warsaw -- next to playgrounds, in parks and other strolling places.
Harry
29 May 2013 #99
ooo so you get to pick out your seats?? Why is it like that though?

Yes. Probably to stop people from queuing outside the door for hours on end to get the better seats (or to sell a place in the queue to people who want to pay for better seats).
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
29 May 2013 #100
I have heard that Poland has the highest credit-card fee in Europe, ie, the fee the shop has to pay Visa, Mastercard or whoever when a customer uses a credit card, For that reason, some shops give a discount to those paying in cash. Also, people using credit cards tend to buy 20% more (often unnecessary goods they later regret) than those paying cash. Cash is an effective anti-squandering device.
mochadot18 15 | 241
29 May 2013 #101
some shops give a discount to those paying in cash

Well isnt that basically the same as when gas stations give you a semi lower cost on gas if you pay with cash.

Yes. Probably to stop people from queuing outside the door for hours on end to get the better seats (or to sell a place in the queue to people who want to pay for better seats)

Still think that's dumb personally I mean, i'm fine with the way we do it here first come first serve.

Also, people using credit cards tend to buy 20% more

oooo yeah can totally understand this, I mean its just a swipe you don't actually see your money coming out of your hand. Why the U.S has such problems with credit card debt.

There are also on the spot fines for what you would term jaywalking

What seriously, I mean I guess I can understand that, but here you cross where ever you want. hopefully just not right in front of a car lol. What's the fine on that??
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
29 May 2013 #102
CHEATING on tests is a no-no in America which cna get you expelled.
SNITCHING is a no-no in Poland unless you want to be called a kapuś.
LADIES FIRST: When an American (even an assimilated Polish-American) married couple visits a flat in Poland, the US male chauvinistically shoves his hand forward to be greeted, but is often surprised that the hosts first make a beeline for the lady. Only after she has been hugged, kissed and welcomed do they turn to him.
lorito - | 17
29 May 2013 #103
Polish enjoy life and understand that people work to live. American seems to find that behaviour weird and consider it communist.

America is the only rich country that doesn't guarantee paid vacation or holidays.
scottie1113 7 | 898
30 May 2013 #104
So, in the 37 years I worked in the US before coming to Poland, how did I manage to work for companies that provided both? Just lucky I guess. :)
mochadot18 15 | 241
30 May 2013 #105
America is the only rich country that doesn't guarantee paid vacation or holidays

Yes this is untrue, maybe if you work in a small company you won't. But I have never heard of one that doesn't give you paid vacation and or holidays. I personally don't but that is only because i'm a college student so I only work part time and seasonal. But after you have worked even at a place like Walmart for 2 years you get paid time off.
Lenka 3 | 2,445
30 May 2013 #106
In Poland if you work on contract (even part time) your paid holidays are counted since day 1. The more you work the more holidays you get. Of course part time will get less days off. Employer has to either give you the time off or pay you extra for that time.After a year you have full holidays granted.
OP p3undone 8 | 1,135
30 May 2013 #107
Every pace I've ever worked at has given paid vacation time here in the US.
lorito - | 17
30 May 2013 #108
The article is quiet clear. Holidays are not guaranteed in US. It doesn't say people don't get holidays.

There are great places to work where they give many days of holidays, but that's a perk not the law as it's in Europe. The table in the article washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/files/2013/05/vacat ion-table.jpg

shows the average days of holidays in US, compared with europe is easy to see who gets more holidays.
mochadot18 15 | 241
30 May 2013 #110
But it shows that 77% of people get paid vacations and paid holidays. So do we really need to have a law for it if most people are getting them off and paid??? Also the U.S needs people to work on holidays we can't give everyone off on every holiday, the only day everyone gets off is Christmas. Other than that we need our stores open like our grocery stores need to be open 24/7 every other day.
Lenka 3 | 2,445
30 May 2013 #111
Oh, we are not talking about Christmas and such. We are talking about some paid time off work for vacations. Full time workers get 21 days a year I think (no energy to check

). When you get it is a consensus between what employee and amployer wants.
mochadot18 15 | 241
30 May 2013 #112
We are talking about some paid time off work for vacations.

Ok but the chart shows that 77% of American workers get 13 Paid Vacation days and 8 Paid Holidays
Lenka 3 | 2,445
30 May 2013 #113
Ok, I understand that but in Europe (Poland) it's 100 % and more days off. You asked for differences and you have them :)
mochadot18 15 | 241
30 May 2013 #114
Yeah no I get that, i'm just saying Poland isn't on that chart either, but even though its not 100% most get more paid days off than Japan, Canada, Switzerland, Netherlands.

Also I know like where my dad works he can roll over his sick days and vacation days that he doesn't use. So if he doesn't use them all up they are just added onto the next year. Can you guys do that also?

Also Unions guarantee teachers days off
Employees shall be entitled to use up to four (4) personal days per school year. You are entitled each year to 5 sick days.
btu.org/contract-highlights/for-teachers
lorito - | 17
30 May 2013 #115
Full time workers get 21 days a year I think

20 working days per year during the first 10 years of employment and 26 working days thereafter. Plus 13 days of public holidays. (source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_statutory_minimum_employment_leave_by_country)

but even though its not 100% most get more paid days off than Japan, Canada, Switzerland, Netherlands.

Not really. You are comparing the average of what 77% of people get to what it's mandatory (the minimum) to 100% people in those countries. Companies in those countries must probably also give more holidays as their perks so the average is probably much higher than in US.

he can roll over his sick days

I never really got the concept of sick days. You are entitled each year to 5 sick days. ? What happens if you go over your sick days? are your holidays affected?
mochadot18 15 | 241
30 May 2013 #116
If you go over then you have to use one of your vacation days.
pam
30 May 2013 #117
What seriously, I mean I guess I can understand that, but here you cross where ever you want. hopefully just not right in front of a car lol. What's the fine on that??

Not sure Mocha, from what I've read anything between 100 and 500 PLN, haven't found an exact figure.
Lenka 3 | 2,445
31 May 2013 #118
So it's another difference. In Poland if you work on contract and get sick you go to you GP and if he decides you shouldn't work he/she gives you L4- sick leave. As long as you need it. No limits here. Although you get paid less then.
mochadot18 15 | 241
31 May 2013 #119
Ooooo you guys gotta get aproved by the docs too miss work??
Jardinero 1 | 405
31 May 2013 #120
Was the incarceration rate mentioned yet?

According to Wikipedia, the incarceration rate in the US is the highest in the world. As of 2009, the incarceration rate was 743 (per 100,000 of national population). Poland was ranked 60th with 220... This is surprising and not really what one would expect from the land of the free...

To put things in perspective, mother Russia had the second highest, at 577; not so free Cuba 7th with 510; merrie England & Wales placed 92nd at 154; Canada was 123rd at 117; and also not that free China had 170/121; New Zealand 71st; Venezuela 99th; Australia 113th, Sweden 177th, etc...


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