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Only one county in the USA has more Polish-Americans than any other group!


4 eigner 2 | 831
30 Oct 2013 #31
I assure you that most people gave their country of origin for the ship's manifest and when asked by the immigration officers at Ellis Island, not their ethnicity

you can't assure me TO but I respect your opinion ;-) Again TO, self-reported means, nobody told them what to say, they self-reported who they are, end of story. Really no need to argue, man. It is what it is. No matter how long we'll continue talking about it, nothing will change it anyway.
TheOther 6 | 3,818
30 Oct 2013 #32
The map is based on the answers given in the 2000 census

My apologies, didn't see that. Still ... even during the 2000 census on average only 1 in 6 households in the US received the long form. I can't imagine that the map is based on 16.6% of the total data. How do you know that the map uses the long form instead of the short?

census.gov/dmd/www/pdf/d-61b.pdf

Quote: "On average, about 1 in every 6 households will receive the long form."

you can't assure me TO but I respect your opinion

Fair enough. :)
OP Harry
30 Oct 2013 #33
How do you know that the map uses the long form instead of the short?

As I quoted in a post on the previous page here "The data on ancestry were derived from answers to long-form questionnaire Item 10, which was asked of a sample of the population."
TheOther 6 | 3,818
30 Oct 2013 #34
As I quoted in a post on the previous page

Did you read the whole 1270 pages of the document to find that quote? ;)

The data on ancestry were derived from answers to long-form questionnaire Item 10, which was asked of a sample of the population.

So the map is based on roughly 16.7% of the available data? Now that's what I call "creative statistics"...

The ancestry question is still strange though. The document states that

"The intent of the ancestry question was not to measure the degree of attachment the respondent had to a particular ethnicity. For example, a response of ''Irish'' might reflect total involvement in an Irish community or only a memory of ancestors several generations removed from the individual."

Which seems to support my earlier notion that people didn't really know or care how they answered that question. Hmmmm ... I vaguely remember that one of my ancestors came from Prussia ... so let's state that my ancestry is "German" just to be done with this nonsense ...
Bieganski 17 | 901
31 Oct 2013 #35
The picture there of "Polish" immigrants don't look very Polish at all do they?

Well, well, well. Look at the multi-cultural advocate racially profiling others.

Clearly when words like "Kresy" and "partitions" are used in discussions about Poland's history you understand them only in the abstract.
PennBoy 76 | 2,437
31 Oct 2013 #36
The picture there of "Polish" immigrants don't look very Polish at all, do they?

No they don't Delph. More like Ukrainians. Looks like prewar immigration so most likely immigrants from eastern Poland.

Only one county in the USA has more Polish-Americans than any other group!

Well there's a lot more German or Irish Americans as you yourself know. It's irrelevant America will look like Brazil anyways.
Mateusz1835 - | 11
24 Dec 2013 #37
The reason there is so little discussion of Polish immigration to Brazil is because they speak Portuguese. Very few Brazilians seem to speak English. I have more Facebook friends with the last name 'Mileski' who live in Brazil than live in the US. I have one Facebook friend with the name 'Milewska' who lives in Poland. She lives in Sarnetki. She is 15 and speaks English passably.
laslavic
6 Aug 2014 #38
Large population of Poles in the suburbs of Detroit. The last thirty years though with the massive increase of Spanish surnames it seems like we have less Polish lasts names but then Michael has been replaced with Miguel and Smith is even rare compared with all the Mexican Spanish names. Just like all whites Polish named people are not having many baby's and are married to men with non Polish last names. It's a shame none of our European cultures are as special as the new ones moving here en masse. In public schools for the last twenty years learning about or having any public pride for your European heritage has been minimized and discouraged. Could anyone imagine a Polish pride month? Yet poles have contributed a tremendous amount to this great country and have a rich history and culture as worthy of study as any. Keep in mind the religion of multiculturalism has no time or interest in including or even recognizing anything except African and Latin American cultures.


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