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Would you live in California, USA?


Rich Mazur 4 | 3,053
8 Jun 2018 #181
This thread is about the USA. Would you believe that not everything is about Poland?

Decent reading comprehension is a rare skill here. Try it. You may actually like it
Dirk diggler 10 | 4,602
8 Jun 2018 #182
forever, family included.

Very north korean...

Never allowed to be voting citizens.

You wouldn't be able to vote either then.

Perhaps we should have firing squads for immigrants who get speeding tickets too
dolnoslask 6 | 2,946
8 Jun 2018 #183
All immigrants should meet these conditions:

Cor Blimey a new Mein Kamph.
Lyzko 45 | 9,275
8 Jun 2018 #184
Not necessary, Dirk! Just suspend their license indefinitely. That'll put the scare on 'em all right.
Dirk diggler 10 | 4,602
8 Jun 2018 #185
I doubt it. There's tons of peoplenwith no license and no insurance driving around esp in the barrio. At most theyll end up paying a fine. If they get caught like 5 times within say 3 dsysxbddn
Lyzko 45 | 9,275
8 Jun 2018 #186
Firing squads though are too costly and not worth it anymore.
Dirk diggler 10 | 4,602
8 Jun 2018 #187
I know i was being sarcastic since rich wants to punish peoples like the nazis did or north Korea does.
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,053
8 Jun 2018 #189
Firing squads though are too costly and not worth it anymore.

I would volunteer. Which means for free.

Seriously, a shooting border with Mexico would solve illegal immigration in 72 hours after the news that the Americans shoot trespassers would hit the Latino radio and TV.

It would actually be beneficial to the scum as they would quit coming and dying because we forgot to deliver cold water and cookies to the Arizona border.
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,053
8 Jun 2018 #190
since rich wants to punish peoples like the nazis did or north Korea does.

I read my post 170 very slowly and didn't find anything that could even remotely look like punishment.

No mention of prisons, executions, fines, or caining.

I don't vote. I did once and I was lied to. You do know Einstein's definition of insanity? Well, I may be all kinds of things but I ain't insane.
dolnoslask 6 | 2,946
8 Jun 2018 #191
72 hours after the news that the Americans shoot trespassers

Well would you shoot to kill or use the IDF tactic of shooting them in the knees with spinning .22 rounds, thus causing them a permanent disability.

On the upside you won't have many Latinos competing against you at he next Olympics.

But hey who is going to cut your lawn.

I think your plan needs a bit more work.

Can I ask, do you like to paint in your spare time.
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,053
8 Jun 2018 #192
Well would you shoot to kill or use the IDF tactic of shooting them in the knees with spinning

At home, I am ready to shoot to kill anyone breaking in at 2 a.m. Dead people can't testify that at 2 a.m. they only wanted to go pee-pee, and sue the f*** out of me later.

We should do the same at the border. In three days there would be no illegal "immigration" and no one would die from thirst crossing the Arizona desert. Problem solved.

Almost forgot: and no girls would be raped by the bad hombres.

BTW, how many died at the DMZ vs that joke we call our southern border?
dolnoslask 6 | 2,946
8 Jun 2018 #193
that joke we call our southern border?

Don't you think a wall would be enough rather than have allot of starving orphans crying for their parents.

At your shooting border how would you select your targets to shoot dead. age of eight years old and upwards?, would women girls be included in the target list
TheOther 6 | 3,674
8 Jun 2018 #194
You speak Spanish, your skin is brown -- you're dead. Then they'll run to church and ask their Orange Jesus for forgiveness. That's the Trumpmonkey way.
Joker 2 | 2,569
8 Jun 2018 #195
We should do the same at the border. In three days there would be no illegal "immigration"

If Trump gave a shoot to kill order the illegal crossings would immediately stop. They probably wouldn't even have to fire a shot or there would be a very low number to set forth as an example.

That's the Trumpmonkey way.

Back to name calling again?

I guess thats what you have to do when you used up all the canned libby talking points..... Craaawraaawwww
TheOther 6 | 3,674
8 Jun 2018 #196
Back to name calling again?

Thought I was talking about you? Here, have another banana. LOL!
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,053
8 Jun 2018 #197
You speak Spanish, your skin is brown -- you're dead.

You speak Spanish, your skin is brown, you enter the kill zone - you die. Next.

Except that nobody would die because they are not as f***** up in their brains as are the open-borders American liberals.

Would you enter a kill zone?

Good answer. I wouldn't either. See how simple life can be?

We, conservatives, call it an instinct of self-preservation.
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,053
8 Jun 2018 #198
At your shooting border how would you select your targets to shoot dead. age of eight years old and upwards?, would women girls be included in the target list

There would be no shooting at the shooting border.

Is there any shooting at the DMZ? How many women and girls died at the DMZ?

The answers: no, and none. You know why? Because the liberals have a monopoly on stupidity and left nothing for the normal folks who love life, as we say.

You want to try again with a better straw argument?
TheOther 6 | 3,674
8 Jun 2018 #199
We, conservatives, call it an instinct of self-preservation.

The East German commies said exactly the same when they built their border. I saw that abomination in real life. A wet dream for the Russian loving Republicans of 2018.

There would be no shooting at the shooting border.

And you believe that?
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,053
8 Jun 2018 #200
The East German commies said exactly the same when they built their border.

Anybody who does not see the difference between the Berlin wall which was meant to keep the East German slaves from escaping and a defensive Trump wall, meant to keep the invading scum from entering, is a world-class moron unworthy of another keystroke.
TheOther 6 | 3,674
8 Jun 2018 #201
First of all, I wasn't talking about the Berlin Wall but about the border between West Germany and the GDR in the west. Second, the Wall was called the "Anti-fascist Peace Bulwark" - just like the shoot-to-kill border further to the west erected to keep the evil capitalists out (and the poor East Germans in). Educate yourself.
Dirk diggler 10 | 4,602
9 Jun 2018 #202
Expelling a family because of one person's crime is punishment. The nazis and north Koreans also punished family members and even whole villages for the crimes of individuals.

If you dont want Latino immigrants in the us than stop supporting them financially. When you drink milk, eat cheese of yogurt, use a landscaper whether you hired them for your property or an association hired them for a complex you live in or go out to eat theres a very high chance that an illegal Latino dude is involved. You think the guys working at 'authentic Italian' restaurants are bona fide italians? No its all Mexicans in the kitchen. Unless you're living like a hermit chances are you are consuming products and services where an illegal was involved at some point in the supply chain and you are contributing to their wages by buying such products and services. But lemme guess, now you'll say that you don't consume any dairy products, you never go out to eat, and the landscapers are irish...
TheOther 6 | 3,674
9 Jun 2018 #203
If you dont want Latino immigrants in the us than stop supporting them financially.

Exactly, but that will of course never happen. It's easier for them to switch off their brains, scream MAGA and demand a shoot-to-kill border that Mexico will (never) pay for. This country is so screwed.
Dirk diggler 10 | 4,602
9 Jun 2018 #204
Yes but nonetheless Obama deported far more people than any president before him, eben though he was pretending to be on the illegals side and pass 'immigration reform'

It costs around $30k to deport a person. Im all for deporting illegals who commit violent felonies, but deporting people who are working and contributing to the american economy just seems foolish. Not only are you going to spend $30k deporting that person, but then you lose the labor he or she provided and the only other person thats going to take a dirty $8 $10 an hour job picking fruit or working on a dairy farm is another illegal.

There's a story out about some.17 18 year old kid who was brought by his parents when he was 3 years old. He spoke fluent English, went to high school, and was about to graduate and go off to college where he even got an academic scholarship. Well he gets deported and 3 weeks later he gets his throat sliced since he arrived in a country he knew nothing about.
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,053
9 Jun 2018 #205
Expelling a family because of one person's crime is punishment.

We already punish families for the sins of the fathers when a father is hit under RICO and his money and other property confiscated. You go and tell the judge that some of that loot was meant for the kid's education and see how it goes. How about that civil forfeiture you hate so much? That money could be for kids' education or kidney replacement. And, if we kick dad's a** out, liberals will scream that we are cruel separating the bambinos from their loving papa.

Your argument that I support illegals indirectly is laughable at best. By depositing money in a bank, you support bank robbers, because, but for that deposit and the deposits made by others, there would be no money to rob. I also support drug smuggling because the money I spend in a Mexican store can be used by the Mexican drug smuggler running said store to finance drug smuggling. There is no end to what you wrote. No, I don't want my grass cut by the illegal garbage. If you consider what I have to pay in social services delivered to that bum and family, that grass cutting at a discout comes out very expensive. I am very familiar with that form of accounting.

I want laws to be observed and enforced without that touchy-feely crap liberals are so quick to throw in for sympathy for the illegal Latino scum. An illegal crossing into the US is a one unending crime spree. The act of crossing, stealing somebody's identity, getting a fake SS number, is just a warm-up. Then, sob want me to pay for his kids' education, medical treatment, his incarceration, deportation hearings and appeals - all on my dime.

Well he gets deported and 3 weeks later he gets his throat sliced since he arrived in a country he knew nothing about.

And that is supposed to make me feel guilty?

Did German kids deserve to be fried alive in Dresden, Hiroshima and Nagasaki for the sins of their fathers? This and other such things go into the bottom drawer marked tough s***.

That thoat slicing story supports my arguments. When the Latino scum crawls under or climbs over the fence, they are just like the slicer. Just look at the murder rates in El Salvador and other hellholes being 50 to 100 times higher than in the white America. That's times, not percent.

God have mercy on this country.
dolnoslask 6 | 2,946
9 Jun 2018 #206
This and other such things go into the bottom drawer marked tough s***.

Having compassion, empathy for the suffering of others even if its the children of the enemy, this is what makes us human, those who would say.....

Did German kids deserve to be fried alive in Dresden, Hiroshima and Nagasaki for the sins of their fathers?

Probably have a severe mental disorder.

Once the battle or the war in japan and Germany was won , the brave soldiers who had thought through that time still had the human compassion to help the injured and the starving.

Jesus were you some kind of Soviet genetic experiment that was designed to enter the west and infect it , Have you been accidentally activated after all these years.

I will wear the the abuse warning I will get for saying this with honour.
Dirk diggler 10 | 4,602
9 Jun 2018 #207
You go and tell the judge that some of that loot was meant for the kid's education and see how it goes

Obviously if the money always acquired illegally then it will.be seized if that person is convicted and thats part of his or her punishment.

Did German kids deserve to be fried alive in Dresden, Hiroshima and Nagasaki for the sins of their fathers?

All wars have collateral damage. We're not discussing a conflict between countries, were talking about us immigration policies.

By purchasing dairy products you absolutely are as YOU KNOW that they were made by illegals. That is different than depositing miney in a bank as you have no idea if that bank will be robbed or not. So do your part and stop eating dairy products you dont want illegals coming to the U.S. and working at those places.
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,053
9 Jun 2018 #208
the brave soldiers who had thought through that time still had the human compassion

That is why we don't ask "brave soldiers" anything. National policy cannot be based on what "brave soldiers" think.
TheOther 6 | 3,674
9 Jun 2018 #209
@Dirk diggler

This whole debate isn't about illegal immigrants anymore, Adrian. It's about the fact that Latinos and Hispanics are about to replace the white majority in many states, and that a certain primitive part of the Republican voter base cannot cope. Just read through this thread or the other one in Off Topic about Trump. Our current administration is playing with the fire to fuel this hate for political gains.

Im all for deporting illegals who commit violent felonies, but deporting people who are working and contributing to the american economy just seems foolish.

Don't you think that's a bit unfair to those who go through the bureaucratic nightmare of becoming a legal resident/ citizen? The dreamers are a different story in my opinion. They should be allowed to stay.
Dirk diggler 10 | 4,602
9 Jun 2018 #210
Don't you think that's a bit unfair to those who go through the bureaucratic nightmare of becoming a legal resident/ citizen?

No one cares about 'fair' or not. Life isnt fair. Its the end result that counts. Like machiavelli wrote in the price - the ends justify the means. I know tons of poles who illegally snuck into.the us via Canada with a polish group facilitating this flow. As long as they didn't commit any serious crimes after 10.years their reward was naturalization - same as the ones who came legally. During that time theyre not collecting benefits like the migrants in Europe, theyre basically forced to work low wage jobs as they become naturalized.

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