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Polish-Jewish survivor of the Holocaust celebrates her 100th birthday


delphiandomine 86 | 16,396    
29 May 2017  #1
Another nice story concerning a Polish survivor of the Holocaust. She had a remarkable story, including escaping the Nazis twice before finally moving to the United States. She succeeded there, and her life is one of success against adversity.

miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/coconut-grove/article149260949.html

Perhaps the strongest words are here:

'It is very important for young people to know about different religions,' said Marysia Green... 'There is still anti-Semitism everywhere, and for young people, it's new. The Holocaust can always happen if you don't watch.'

Those words could well be aimed at her homeland. But she also said:

"Jews go through difficulties all the time, but we will never disappear," Green said. "We never give up. We always come back."

As we can see today, Jewish life is flourishing in Poland, and even Polish parents send their children to Jewish schools these days. If the American Jewish community continues to support Jewish life in Poland, it can only go from strength to strength.
Harry    
29 May 2017  #2
She had a remarkable story, including escaping the Nazis twice before finally moving to the United States.

A moving story. I just wish there had been enough word count for her memories about the Poles who risked so much to help her and her family.
Ironside 47 | 9,038    
2 Jan 2018  #3
Merged:

US Senate Committee advanced 'restitusion bill' for Holocaust survivos.



On Tuesday, the committee unanimously passed the Justice for Uncompensated Survivors Today, or JUST Act.

What the heck that are about? This seems to be a tad selective in their approach and aimed at Poland.
Extortionist lobby is blooming.
Dirk diggler 7 | 3,404    
2 Jan 2018  #4
What the heck that are about?

Holocaust Industry plus a kiss on the other Zionist butt cheek. First kiss was moving embassy to Jerusalem - second is the JUST act... maybe trump will lick it too - afterall he cut aid to Pakistan ($30 bil over 15years) but I guarantee you he'll NEVER lower the aid to Israel... what a hypocrite...

Yet when Poles ask for fair compensation due to the Nazis plundering and destruction of the country all you hear is crickets....

There are more jewish holocaust survivor claims than their were jewish holocaust victims.... its pathetic
WielkiPolak 55 | 1,030    
2 Jan 2018  #5
Yes indeed, it was passed in the senate on December 12th. Interestingly none of the mainstream media picked it up, right or left. I had to find out about it through other, non-mainstream channels.

congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/447/text

Holocaust industries is showing no sign of letting up.
TheOther 5 | 3,389    
2 Jan 2018  #6
This seems to be a tad selective in their approach and aimed at Poland.

Wonder how the Trump administration will try to enforce this.
WielkiPolak 55 | 1,030    
11 Jan 2018  #7
Yes me too. It seems the only way to do it would be to threaten Poland with something. If you don't pay the then you won't get this or that.
WielkiPolak 55 | 1,030    
11 Jan 2018  #8
I have some serious issues with this whole idea of Poland owing money to Jewish families who were forced out during the war.

First off, any of those Jewish organisations that try to squeeze out money for themselves because their fellow Jews suffered in Poland - a categorical no. It doesn't work like that. 'Jews suffered here and lost their property. We're also Jewish, so compensate us.' No chance.

As for Jewish survivors of the holocaust who are still alive, or their families, this is a bit more of a complex subject, however I still don't think Poland ought to be compensating them.

It's a bit like if a woman loses her husband. He goes missing and after some time she thinks he's dead. She grieves for him, but some time later remarries and has a family of her own. It later turns out her husband didn't die. He's still alive and visits her. What is she to do? She loved him, but thought he was dead, so moved on. Should she leave her current family for him? That wouldn't be a nice thing to do.

The survivor situation is similar. Jews had to leave Poland, as they feared for their lives. In doing so they left property behind. Later on, other people moved in to these properties and have lived their with their families for many decades since. Now the survivors or their relatives want the property returned. Surely it would be very harsh to kick out the families who live there?

So the other option is then for the government to compensate them financially. That in turns means the people of Poland will compensate them, because the government operates with taxpayer money. The question is, why should it be Poland that compensates them? Why did Jews leave in such a hurry? Easy, because the Germans invaded and the Nazis wanted to kill them. Millions of [non Jewish] Polish people were also murdered and Polish infrastructure also suffered greatly because of this invasion. So much damage was caused, but so far Poland has not received a dime of compensation from the Germans.

So again, why should Poland pay the Jews that fled the country, when the reason they fled was because of the Germans? Even if some people will claim there was some antisemitism in Poland anyway - no Jew in Poland left all their stuff behind and fled, because of antisemitism. They fled because they feared being murdered by the German Nazis.

So since it was Germans that were the cause of them leaving their possessions behind, why not go to them for the compensation?
Dirk diggler 7 | 3,404    
11 Jan 2018  #9
Oh they do - they go to the Germans, the Americans, the French, the Polish - basically anyone they can get to feel remorseful and be convinced that billions will right the wrongs of a single German government
jon357 65 | 13,406    
11 Jan 2018  #10
Why did Jews leave in such a hurry?

Most didn't leave. They were murdered. The lucky ones who weren't had to flee in the face of a huge army wanting to kill them and heading their way quickly. My friend (who just got his share in some family property seized by the Germans) lost almost his entire family. His father survived only because he was sheltered by someone. When he went back to his own home after 'liberation' in 1945 he was turned away at gunpoint by people wearing his clothes.
Lyzko 17 | 4,802    
11 Jan 2018  #11
Poland was also one of the worst in her treatment of returning Jews after the War, ahead of Austria, although behind Romania. A dubious distinction indeed.
kaprys 1 | 1,355    
11 Jan 2018  #12
Here we go again with Poles shaming.
Lots left for Israel straightaway.

Thank you, gentlemen, for making me realise how Jews hate Poles and Poland.
jon357 65 | 13,406    
11 Jan 2018  #13
Lots left for Israel straightaway.

No surprises, if you can't get into your home and people are trying to kill you.

Many Poles of Jewish background didn't however. They stayed in their homeland.
Lyzko 17 | 4,802    
11 Jan 2018  #14
Jews didn't choose to be hated, Church doctrine took care of that. Luther wanted the Jews to convert. When most refused? He declared in words succinct and unmistakable that they should be burned out of their homes and driven from their houses.

And the Jews "asked for" such treatment?? A simple nudge to assimilate gently on the part of the Catholic hierarchy would have been more than sufficient:-)
kaprys 1 | 1,355    
11 Jan 2018  #15
@jon357
Some didn't even get back to Poland. Like deserting Anders' s army to get to Palestine.

But what do I know? I'm just Polish. I must be antisemitic. And as I said, you and Lyzko have opened my eyes on how Jews see Poland and Polish people. That was an important lesson.
dolnoslask 5 | 1,918    
11 Jan 2018  #16
opened my eyes on how Jews see Poland

Not all Kaprys, you have to understand that lyzko is not here to build bridges and reinstate old friendships and cooperation between our two great peoples.
Taxpaying voter 1 | 146    :-(
11 Jan 2018  #17
Lots left for Israel straightaway.

You mean like the Polish Jew who led the resistance in the Sobibor death camp which mounted the mass escape? And the Polish Jew who was one of only two survivors of the Belzec death camp?

Oh, no, sorry, my mistake, both of those men were murdered by their fellow Poles after escaping from Nazi death camps, weren't they.
G (undercover)    
11 Jan 2018  #18
Oy vey !

Poland was also one of the worst in her treatment of returning Jews after the War, ahead of Austria, although behind Romania.

Oh my, a judge of humanity has spoken again. You dudes take all this stuff about Goys and the chosen ones too seriously.
kaprys 1 | 1,355    
11 Jan 2018  #19
@Taxpaying voter
Or like Bielski brothers?
Or over a thousand Poles murdered at Belzec for helping Jews.
What else will you find?
Wanna play a game of mutual accusations?
How about Polish airmen in the UK? From being murdered by peasants to being denied participation in the Victory Parade.
But I'm tired with it.
You poor little thing living in a country you hate. And those who don't even live her but are led here by hatred. There are quite a few here who should start I-hate-Poland-forum.

I'm so sorry for you.
Nah, I'm not really.
G (undercover)    
11 Jan 2018  #20
Dude is an elderly English teacher with inferiority complex, give him a break.
Dirk diggler 7 | 3,404    
11 Jan 2018  #21
Of course it's everyone's fault BUT theirs....

Jews were being kicked out of countries, kingdoms, cities, etc left and right well before Luther's time. It wasn't just one odd country or city or two that got sick and tired of the Jews - it was over a hundred over the span of millennia! They managed to wear out their welcome in nearly every single large city in Europe - truly a feat of accomplishment. It's the only group to have been kicked out of so many different countries. They literally wore out their welcome EVERYWHERE they went.

Here is a short list and years of all the places Jews were kicked out of - if you go by countries, kingdoms, principalities, states, cities, etc. the list is well over 100... But of course an entire continent with dozens of different nationalities is to blame for their anti-Semitism - never the Jews' actions within those lands. They literally had no where else to go after centuries of wearing out their welcome everywhere they went and BEGGED to be let back into Poland

Expulsions of Jews from Host Nations: 1). A.D. 250, Carthage; 2). 415, Alexandria; 3). 554, Diocese of Clement (France); 4). 561, Diocese of Uzzes (France); 5). 612, Visigoth Spain; 6). 642, Visigoth Empire; 7). 855, Italy; 8). 876, Sens; 9). 1012, Mayence; 10). 1181, France; 11). 1290, England; 12). 1306, France; 13). 1348, Switzerland; 14). 1349, Hielbronn (Germany); 15). 1349, Hungary; 16). 1388, Strasbourg; 17). 1394, Germany; 18). 1394, France; 19). 1422, Austria; 20). 1424, Fribourg & Zurich; 21). 1426, Cologne; 22). 1432, Savory; 23). 1438, Mainz; 24). 1439, Augsburg; 25). 1446, Bavaria; 26). 1453, Franconis; 27). 1453, Breslau; 28). 1454, Wurzburg; 29). 1485, Vincenza (Italy); 30). 1492, Spain; 31). 1495, Lithuania; 32). 1497, Portugal; 33). 1499, Germany; 34). 1514, Strasbourg; 35). 1519, Regensburg; 36). 1540, Naples; 37). 1542, Bohemia; 38). 1550, Genoa; 39). 1551, Bavaria; 40). 1555, Pesaro; 41). 1559, Austria; 42). 1561, Prague; 43). 1567, Wurzburg, Genoese Republic; 44). 1569, Papal States; 45). 1571, Brandenburg; 46). 1582, Netherlands; 47). 1593, Brandenburg, Austria; 48). 1597, Cremona, Pavia & Lodi; 49). 1614, Frankfort; 50). 1615, Worms; 51). 1619, Kiev; 52). 1649, Ukraine; 53). 1654, LittleRussia; 54). 1656, Lithuania; 55). 1669, Oran (North Africa); 56). 1670, Vienna; 57). 1712, Sandomir; 58). 1727, Russia; 59). 1738, Wurtemburg; 60). 1740, LittleRussia; 61). 1744, Bohemia; 62). 1744, Livonia; 63). 1745, Moravia; 64). 1753, Kovad (Lithuania); 65). 1761, Bordeaux; 66). 1772, Jews deported to the Pale of Settlement (Russia); 67). 1775, Warsaw; 68). 1789, Alace; 69). 1804, Villages in Russia; 70). 1808, Villages & Countrysides (Russia); 71). 1815, Lubeck & Bremen; 72). 1815, Franconia, Swabia & Bavaria; 73). 1820, Bremes; 74). 1843, Russian Border Austria & Prussia; 75). 1862, Area in the U.S. under Grant's Jurisdiction; 76). 1866, Galatz, Romania; 77). 1919, Bavaria (foreign born Jews); 78). 1938-45, Nazi Controlled Areas; 79). 1948, Arab Countries. (International Jewish Encyclopedia).

Now the Zionists are exacting revenge upon goyim Europe just like their Talmud tells them to. They are allying with brainwashed liberals to bring in hordes of people from a totally other culture knowing there'd be clashes. Of course countries like Poland and more so Hungary even that resist are immediately criticized by ZOGs.

Oh, no, sorry, my mistake, both of those men were murdered by their fellow Poles after escaping from Nazi death camps, weren't they.@ Taxpaying voter

Perhaps they were also killed by the Michnik family like other Polish WW2 heroes.
Bieganski 17 | 907    
11 Jan 2018  #22
Lots left for Israel straightaway.

And many Jews had the door slammed shut in their wretched faces:

Golda Meir Told Poland: Don't Send Sick or Disabled Jews to Israel

The letter...was uncovered by Prof. Szymon Rudnicki...Rudnicki concedes that...the document surprised him as a scholar and a Jew. "This is a very cynical document...It is known that Golda was a brutal politician who defended interests more than people."

haaretz.com/golda-meir-told-poland-don-t-send-sick-or-disabled-jews-to-israel-1.2523
Dirk diggler 7 | 3,404    
11 Jan 2018  #23
And the Jews "asked for" such treatment??

How do you expect Christians, whether Protestant, Orthodox, or Catholic to react to a people who revere a book which states Mary was a ***** who slummed it with carpenters and Jesus is boiling in hell in a bath of excrement? Do you think that non-Jews, referred to as cattle by the Jews, their scripture and in Hebrew, shouldn't be upset over statements which state its okay to kill a goy, steal from him, have sex with a 3 year old, etc ? Maybe if the Jews weren't practicing usury and loansharking everywhere they went in Europe and didn't have books which deeply insult Catholicism they wouldn't of worn out their welcome in over 100 different places over 2 millennia.

Longer list of all the places Jews were kicked out of - biblebelievers.org.au/expelled.htm
Also includes all the heinous crimes of the Zionist Entity

They've went from bullied to bully very quickly.
jon357 65 | 13,406    
11 Jan 2018  #24
I must be antisemitic.

If you aren't, you're certainly doing your best right now to look otherwise.
Bieganski 17 | 907    
11 Jan 2018  #25
I must be antisemitic.

Not at all. In fact the term Semitic only came about in the 19th century through usage by European anthropologists. Jews aren't on record as ever calling themselves Semites but they certainly throw around the term antisemitism like it's going out of style.

And in fact it is going out of style.

The term has been regarded as obsolete for decades now and even a misnomer since it always implies those who self-identify as Jews rather than other groups such as Palestinians who traditionally and more accurately fall into this category.
WielkiPolak 55 | 1,030    
12 Jan 2018  #26
Thank you, gentlemen, for making me realise how Jews hate Poles and Poland.

Better late than never kaprys.

It's usually quite obvious to tell what Jewish people [there are patriotic Jewish Poles too] hate Poland. Usually when you try to point out the positives and how Jewish people have thrived in Poland and were welcomed there, while other countries were kicking them out, they keep hitting back with all the negatives and how awful Polish people have been to them. It is no surprise then that if they keep going on and on about antisemitism, much of it exaggerated [particularly in the present day], eventually some people in Poland might begin to resent them, or at least, not trust them.

Church doctrine took care of that. Luther wanted the Jews to convert.

And the Jews "asked for" such treatment?? A simple nudge to assimilate gently on the part of the Catholic hierarchy would have been more than sufficient

What are you going on about? Why are you mixing in Luther and the Catholic church together? Luther was a rebel who led a bloody revolution against the Catholic church, murdering many members of the clergy in the process and robbing many churches. What he said about the Jews has got nothing to do with the Catholic church. But of course to you it doesn't matter, does it? It's the church and evil Christianity in general that has mistreated the Jewish people, right?
Lyzko 17 | 4,802    
12 Jan 2018  #27
The institutions of Church, mosque, synagogue etc. in themselves are scarcely evil. Evil is how these institutions skewed doctrine in order to justify hatred.

@Undercover, if I'm an aging English professor with an "inferiority complex" (whatever that means), what does that make you? Still waiting for an answerLOL
OP delphiandomine 86 | 16,396    
12 Jan 2018  #28
And in fact it is going out of style.

On the contrary, there is a very clear and determined effort by basement dwellers to bring it to the fore constantly and repeatedly.
WielkiPolak 55 | 1,030    
12 Jan 2018  #29
Evil is how these institutions skewed doctrine in order to justify hatred.

Ok. So as not to get too off topic here, as 'Polish hatred of Jews' is a different topic, let's stay on the topic. What do you think of this idea of Poland having to compensate Jewish organisations/Jewish survivors for what happened to Jews during the Second World War? Are you happy the senate has put through this 447 act to put more pressure on payments to Jewish survivors of the holocaust [or their families]?



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