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Homeless Poles in NYC


zetigrek    
22 Nov 2012  #2
Nothing new. For example I've read in Glowacki's book about how Polish people end up as homeless in the USA. Basicly it's such pattern: they work illegally without medical cover for 12 hours or more a day, scrimping all precious cents. After some time they are on verge of nervous breakdown (wife in Poland has a lover etc.), fall victim of some scammers or meet with the accident, so they eventually break down and turn into alcohol drinking up all the money they have scrimped so scrupulously. The next step is being homeless.
beckski 12 | 1,619    
22 Nov 2012  #3
Very sad indeed. Noticed they were of various ages. Hats off to the lady who distributed clothing & shoes, in order to help them.
Meathead 5 | 470    
23 Nov 2012  #4
For example I've read in Glowacki's book

You should go there and see it for yourself.
el_easy 2 | 54    
23 Nov 2012  #5
Sad, but in NYC there are homeless people from everywhere.. I know a Jewish guy in Manhattan, he used to be rich and for some reason,

he lost all his money and now you see him begging on the street..So it can happen to anybody.
Wroclaw Boy    
23 Nov 2012  #6
Try walking around central London after about 10:00 pm you'll see hundreds of homeless Poles. Its quite amazing to actually see the amount of homeless people in London, sleeping all over the place.

i also have it on good authority that the UK mental institutions have seen a massive increase in Polish patients, many seem to be the ones that cant make a living in the UK and lose the plot.
SeanBM 35 | 5,809    
23 Nov 2012  #7
Try walking around central London after about 10:00 pm you'll see hundreds of homeless Poles.

When I was a teen and in my early twenties, London was full of homeless Irish.
Wrapped up in old cardboard under Charing Cross Bridge.
Now it seems to be mainly Poles.

I always thought that this song should be translated in to Polish, as it has relevance today to Polish people.

i also have it on good authority that the UK mental institutions have seen a massive increase in Polish patients, many seem to be the ones that cant make a living in the UK and lose the plot.

Chicken or egg.

Could some not make it because they had metal difficulties or do some have mental difficulties because they can't make it?

Loneliness can be psychologically crippling .
Wroclaw Boy    
23 Nov 2012  #8
Charing Cross Bridge.

If that spot still exists i should imagine they dont have any current vacancies.

Could some not make it because they had metal difficulties or do some have mental difficulties because they can't make it?

I'd say more likley the latter, desperate Poles coming to the country to end up at the bottom, no money to go back to Poland and in many cases nothing to go back to anyway. Rock bottom....
SeanBM 35 | 5,809    
23 Nov 2012  #9
Rock bottom....

Lyrics from the song I just posted:

All ye young people now take my advice
Before crossing the ocean you'd better think twice
Cause you can't live without love, without love alone
The proof is round London in the nobody zone.

Where the summer is fine, but the winter's a fridge
Wrapped up in old cardboard under Charing Cross Bridge
And I'll never go home now because of the shame
Of misfit's reflection in a shop window pane.

zetigrek    
23 Nov 2012  #10
You should go there and see it for yourself.

Only if you will fix me a visa.

I'm not sure what did you mean by the above comment but mind that my English is flawed. I'm sorry if what I have written sounded uncompassionate, that certainly wasn't my intention.
Meathead 5 | 470    
24 Nov 2012  #11
Only if you will fix me a visa.

You need to apply

I'm not sure what did you mean by the above comment but mind that my English is flawed. I'm sorry if what I have written sounded uncompassionate, that certainly wasn't my intention.

No need to apologize. Your English is much better than my Polish. No, you didn't sound uncompassionate, you're only guilty of taking someone's word for it.
antheads 12 | 287    
24 Nov 2012  #12
thanks sean, thats a beutifull sad song, i really like the sound of irish folk music for some reason, any other recomendations?
f stop 25 | 2,514    
24 Nov 2012  #13
All I see there is advanced alcoholism. There might be few exceptions, but they are rare.
And you have to be a saint to offer shelter to a dedicated alcoholic.
rybnik 18 | 1,462    
24 Nov 2012  #14
And I'll never go home now because of the shame
Of misfit's reflection in a shop window pane.
.....................great line.
The song is relevant to all, who leave their homes in search of work.

Basicly it's such pattern: they work illegally without medical cover for 12 hours or more a day, scrimping all precious cents. After some time they are on verge of nervous breakdown (wife in Poland has a lover etc.), fall victim of some scammers or meet with the accident, so they eventually break down and turn into alcohol drinking up all the money they have scrimped so scrupulously. The next step is being homeless.

Pretty much.................My wife's an ER nurse in a busy metropolitan hospital just outside New York City. I can count on her calling me at home at least twice a week to interpret for the medical staff whenever a Pole ends up being brought there. Mostly it's for being drunk. Sometimes it's for jobsite accidents. The most pathetic being this one guy from Lublin area. He was a day-worker for some Latino construction company (those of you living in the States will easily see the irony in this). He had the misfortune of falling off the roof and breaking a few ribs. He spoke no English, hence the call to me. Turns out he's been in country for 8 years alone; has no address, no insurance, nothing. No one from the jobsite accompanied him................I speak to these guys about 6-8 times a month. I ask them all why they don't go back to Poland and they all say they have nothing to go back to. It's a very sad situation.
wibblywobbly - | 12    
24 Nov 2012  #15
All I see there is advanced alcoholism.

certainly looked like those dudes could knock back a few beers.
irishguy11 6 | 157    
24 Nov 2012  #16
you could try ride on by christy or Delirium Tremens

youtube.com/watch?v=Vl1NQi_Vit0

Raggle Taggle gypsy
youtube.com/watch?v=kOBCX0T6JsA
zetigrek    
24 Nov 2012  #17
All I see there is advanced alcoholism.

But the guy in the video acknoledged he has a drink problem.
Of course for many of you it means they deserve nothing but contempt...
irishguy11 6 | 157    
24 Nov 2012  #18
I know of some hostles in Dublin and London that allow drink to be consumed in there rooms as long as they do not start fights or get disruptive. I think a lot more work needs to be done to get these people off alcohol and fill there days with activities that fill there day's. If you are on the streets, it is so boring, so you are going to start abusing what ever you can that makes you feel better for a short time.

A person living on a street that has a drink problem is not different to a person that lives in a apartment that is downing just as much alcohol. The person in the apartment could end up on the street within a couple of monhts.
rybnik 18 | 1,462    
24 Nov 2012  #19
Of course for many of you it means they deserve nothing but contempt...

possibly but not for me.
It runs pretty deep on my father's side.
OP Nacjonalista 4 | 96    
24 Nov 2012  #20
In my opinion those guys should scrunge up some cash for an old RV and go bug it out in Florida, Cali or Arizona. Forget cold nasty NYC.
beckski 12 | 1,619    
24 Nov 2012  #21
They could thumb it to Cali & squat somewhere, like Slab City. They'd need to be able to communicate in English well enough to do so. Gets hot as hell there in the summer too.

In time they'd need some source of valid income. Charity only goes so far...
TommyG 1 | 361    
24 Nov 2012  #22
In life for various reasons people can find themselves in these situations. I believe that people need a hand-up and not just a hand-out.
Unfortunately, the USA is a country that promises a lot but offers very little. It doesn't matter whether you're Polish, Mexican or 'American' the govt and society will sh*t all over you.

Being homeless in such a country cannot be much fun for anyone, especially in NYC.
Personally, I think it's a shame that people would rather bash these people than be half a human being and empathise a little...
MoOli 9 | 484    
25 Nov 2012  #23
Being homeless in such a country cannot be much fun for anyone, especially in NYC

lol I also heard if you go to a shelter they try to steal the sneakers that one is wearing if one falls asleep!Thats why most like not to go there.
f stop 25 | 2,514    
25 Nov 2012  #24
Of course for many of you it means they deserve nothing but contempt...

you must be speaking of yourself.
I have helped, and housed, many alcoholics. They ran a whole gamut from functioning alcoholics, through the ones in denial, to those that have given up or made a decision to drink themselves to death.

All I was pointing out is that the ones in a video had more needs than just a shelter.
tygrys 2 | 294    
25 Nov 2012  #25
Unfortunately, the USA is a country that promises a lot but offers very little.

What are you talking about? You must not be from America. What it it promising you?


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