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Getting a VISA to USA by a Polish person nowadays


convex 20 | 3,978
9 Apr 2010  #121
Their CEO"s attitude towards health care leaves a hell of a lot to be desired - and they're hardly friendly towards trade unions as well. For a company which caters to the liberal point of view, they're quite disgraceful in some of their actions.

The CEO is a libertarian that pays staff decent money, offers insurance, and has health care savings plans. It's consistently voted one of the best places to work in the US. The CEO believes that unions would drive up the cost of labor without direct benefits to the workers, and that in turn would hamper their ability to pay decent wages. He's doing his part in not playing along, and has ended up making a better environment for employees. Sounds like a horrible place.
FUZZYWICKETS 8 | 1,884
9 Apr 2010  #122
Delphiandomine wrote:

They absolutely bombed in the UK. I suspect it's just another American gimmick - all hype, little substance.

Whole Foods is fantastic.

Delphiandomine wrote:

I suspect...............American.......

because that's all you can do Delph.....suspect.
scottie1113 7 | 898
9 Apr 2010  #123
unions

Unions. A concept which is way past its time. Just look at the UAW and you'll get an idea of what's wrong with them. The UAW played a big part in wrecking the auto industry in the US.
pgtx 29 | 3,159
9 Apr 2010  #124
you have the choice of buying high quality, organic if that floats your boat

i love the Wholee Foods and Central Market stores... yumms... i guess, CM is only in TX...
krystyna
17 Apr 2010  #125
I am a polish living in u.k. I am over 60years old.I would like to travel to u.s.(new york) for 4days.Do I need a waiver visa?Do I have to go to u.s. embassy in london for a visa?
lukelukeluke
18 Jul 2010  #126
and i don`t wanna go to US, and this website has some errores in Css code :)
MareGaea 29 | 2,752
18 Jul 2010  #127
...And I don't care about failing Cascading Style Sheets and I have made up my mind: in the season 2011-2012, right before the end of the world, I will spend a year in the US :)

>^..^<

M-G (yay!)
pol
2 Nov 2010  #128
hi, im here just by an accident.
i think its not about money or legal/illegal thing. its all about we (polish people) cant get inside us and the more yous dont want us in united states of a, then more & more we want to get there.

i wouldnt mind working in say new-york newyork, or anywhere else in US, but for example im more into sightseeing tour than moval.
well as far im concerned i like USofA for many reasons and if i saw american citizen in trouble i would help him and thats it.

You guys have to remember that you cant paint everyone with the same brush. when it comes down to getting a job and so on - tell me whose bad - person who wants that job, or a person that hires you for like nothin'? It is known that polish workers build many things now in europe.

at the end of the day counts only that we are humans and we should live in peace solving problems, not making it.
I wish good luck to everyone in USofA.
Filip from Warsaw, Poland
ShortHairThug - | 1,103
2 Nov 2010  #129
How pathetic, if you insist on pretending to be Polish the least you can do is to get this right

i wouldnt mind working in say new-york newyork, or anywhere else in US,

you know, the way a true Pole would spell it - moron.
EwciaNCL
15 Nov 2010  #130
just experienced that last week, went all prepared with documents as above (except morgage one) but was travelling for xmas party to my bfreids company (he is CEO there and his details were on application too) I live in UK almost 5 years and have been told exactly same thing in 2 min.
Ironside 48 | 9,796
16 Nov 2010  #131
been told exactly same thing in 2 min.

did you told them? - **** you! you malicious pen pushers if not - why not?
Havok 10 | 912
16 Nov 2010  #132
I am a polish living in u.k. I am over 60years old.I would like to travel to u.s.(new york) for 4days.Do I need a waiver visa?Do I have to go to u.s. embassy in london for a visa?

If you're a British citizen you don't need a "tourist visa" to come to the US

ShortHairThug

How is your dog? also say hi to your mom for me.

I absolutely agree with you, he's a poser.

also, Canada has no visas for Poland, it's really easy to get the US work visa if you're Canadian.
Gosia111
22 Nov 2010  #133
It was same that happen to me today!!!!!!!!!! How rude the officers are. I am here almost 5 years, I work as nursery nurse for past 4 years inn the same place. He didn't looked at my papers at all. I didn't expected to turn the way it did. Then it was too late.
jbhjv
25 Nov 2010  #134
In answer to Your question:
My sister (polish citizen with a 3 year vailid candian multiple entry tourist visa) was visiting me here in Vancouver, during her stay with, we both have decided to try to apply for a us tourist visa category B-2. Getting an appoitment for an interview and paying a required fees were a breeze for both of us. An interview was another matter. During an interview he asked us: Why my sister is not applying at the consulate back home? and the documents that we both submitted were not enough for him to show a strong ties showing that she will go back home (financials and property) at that time my sister was full time employed and attending collage on part-time basis. He looked at my sisters canadian visa and returned her passoprt with a stamp inside showing a date of refusal of us visa. In general the final answer for refusal was lack of strong evidence showing personal ties back home. For us Poles it is difficult to obatin a tourist visa (B-2) to visit usa, majority of refusal is based on possibility of not leaving usa while staying there. (becoming of illigant immigrant).
Zed - | 195
25 Nov 2010  #135
illigant immigrant .... gotta love those compatriots :-) and then they complain
Lodz_The_Boat 32 | 1,535
25 Nov 2010  #136
obatin a tourist visa

These are unfortunate walls created by mistrust and disrespect.

We treat other immigrants or visitors or tourists similarly. There was an Algerian guy who once posted here a couple of years ago. He had a Polish wife and daughter, and still he was denied Visa to enter Poland twice to meet his in laws on a special occasion! I think that post should be in PF archives.

Hopefully the world will come to terms that unity and respect is the way forward.
FUZZYWICKETS 8 | 1,884
26 Nov 2010  #137
Lodz the boat wrote:

These are unfortunate walls created by mistrust and disrespect.

"The cost of harboring illegal immigrants in the United States is a staggering $113 billion a year -- an average of $1,117 for every "native-headed" household in America -- according to a study conducted by the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR)."

foxnews.com/us/2010/07/02/immigration-costs-fair-amnesty-educatio ns-costs-reform/

"In hosting America's largest population of illegal immigrants, California bears a huge cost to provide basic human services for this fast growing, low-income segment of its population. A new study from the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) examines the costs of education, health care and incarceration of illegal aliens, and concludes that the costs to Californians is $10.5 billion per year."

usgovinfo.about.com/od/immigrationnaturalizatio/a/caillegals.htm
Lodz_The_Boat 32 | 1,535
26 Nov 2010  #138
(FAIR)

Wonder if it is... by the way:

Illegal immigrants are hard working people that are also consumers and tax payers of America. Even though they do send some money out of the country, they are still able to pump billions into it.

The billions in taxes they pay and don't collect stays in the SS Administration to help pay for retirement checks, medicare and a slew of other benefits.

Illegal Hispanics are part of the Hispanic Purchasing Power that's expected to reach $1TRILLION.

blogs.chron.com/immigration/archi
Illegal immigrants' value to economy? $1.8 trillion

If the 8.1 million undocumented immigrants who cut lawns, bus tables and perform other jobs disappeared overnight, the nation's economy would lose nearly $1.8 trillion in annual spending.

Texas, the second-hardest-hit state after California, would lose 1.2 million undocumented workers and $220.7 billion in expenditures.

edition.cnn.com/2007/US/10/01/his
Hispanic entrepreneurship, buying power on the rise

(CNN) -- If you don't think Hispanics are a major force in the American marketplace, think again.

Hispanic business ownership is growing three times as fast as the national average and Hispanic purchasing power is expected to reach more than $1 trillion by 2011, according to the Census Bureau and other studies.

NOW MORE ...

1. They are the backbone of our labor workforce. Many companies, especially farms have come to rely on them. We are already in a "Farm Labor Crisis" because of the new immigration laws, and Citizens not wanting the jobs they are leaving behind. Without workers, more and more farms are either shutting down, or moving to Mexico where the workers are without immigration issues.

U.S. Farm Labor Crisis.
saveusfarms.org

U.S. farmers go where workers are: Mexico
iht.com/articles/2007/09/04/a

2. They are tax payers and consumers of America. They pay BILLIONS in taxes every year, and make BILLIONS in purchases every year to! They buy houses, cars, food, cloths, music, electronics and the list goes on and on. They don't claim taxes, and all that stays in the US system. Those taxes help Social Security and Medicare stay around, they help legal Citizens get a retirement check every month, and taxes they pay in rent also helps local schools and maintenance of our roads. Most pay more taxes then the little bit of services they use and are eligible for.

Illegal Immigrants pay BILLIONS in taxes
azcentral.com/business/articl

Report Says Illegals Contribute
whsv.com/virginiaap/headlines

I am not saying that these immigrants shouldnt be legalized. Infact they must be... because in return of their services, they never get the proper health benefits etc as any other citizen would get.

THE WORLD IS BUT ONE COUNTRY AND MANKIND ITS CITIZENS.
FUZZYWICKETS 8 | 1,884
26 Nov 2010  #139
Lodz the boat wrote:

Illegal immigrants are hard working people that are also consumers and tax payers of America. Even though they do send some money out of the country, they are still able to pump billions into it.

""Households headed by illegal aliens imposed more than $26.3 billion in costs on the federal government in 2002 and paid only $16 billion in taxes, creating a net fiscal deficit of $10.4 billion, or $2,700 per illegal household," said Steven A. Camarota, author of the study. The costs outlined in the report include government services such as Medicaid, medical treatment for the uninsured, food assistance programs, the federal prison and court systems, and federal aid to schools."

Lodz the boat wrote:

I am not saying that these immigrants shouldnt be legalized. Infact they must be... because in return of their services, they never get the proper health benefits etc as any other citizen would get.

"The report estimates that granting legal status to illegal immigrants would dramatically increase their cost, causing the net fiscal deficit to rise to nearly $29 billion because, the author argues, unskilled immigrants would have access to more government services while continuing to make modest tax payments."

Lodz the boat wrote:

THE WORLD IS BUT ONE COUNTRY AND MANKIND ITS CITIZENS.

i see your views on the rest of the world are no different than your dillusional views of Poland. i guess it's easy to have these sorts of views on immigration when you were born and raised and still live in a completely homogenous country with virtually no immigration. people will always have different views on things when it's not in their faces every day.
bala
26 Dec 2010  #140
Well, It's still difficult, but relations between the 2 countries are improving. It's up to the people to push the representatives in both countries to find an agreement on the topic. I found an event on facebook that can give us clues on how to petition our nation's leaders. Just type this in:

Visa free travel for Poles/Znieśmy wizy dla Polaków! Już najwyższy czas!
FUZZYWICKETS 8 | 1,884
26 Dec 2010  #141
back on topic:

basically everyone i talk to these days gets a travel visa, no troubles. anyone know anybody who applied recently and got denied? i'd be curious to what kinds of people are getting denied travel visas because i've yet to have a friend/acquaintance that didn't get one.
tygrys 2 | 294
26 Dec 2010  #142
Znieśmy wizy dla Polaków! Już najwyższy czas!

No, that would be a disaster! With so many Poles overstaying their visas, not following the rules, not obeying their visa requirements the US would be overflooded with illegal Poles and when they'd get deported, they would blame America for deporting them, when they should have gone back in the first place. Unfortunetely the Poles are doing this to themselves by not obeying the rules and the ones that overstayed their visas are ruinuing it for others.

We need more police with phaser guns.
jwojcie 2 | 763
26 Dec 2010  #143
With so many Poles overstaying their visas...

Please give some numbers to support that statement. Because so far as usuall in this visa's threads there are no hard data only a speculation...
pammycat - | 16
27 Dec 2010  #144
Unfortunately true. Poland (and other countries) aren't eligible for the Visa Waiver program for this reason.
Babinich 1 | 455
27 Dec 2010  #145
I am not saying that these immigrants shouldnt be legalized. Infact they must be... because in return of their services, they never get the proper health benefits etc as any other citizen would get.

Please define what proper health, scratch that, medical care benefits are comprised of.
jwojcie 2 | 763
27 Dec 2010  #146
Unfortunately true. Poland (and other countries) aren't eligible for the Visa Waiver program for this reason.

I would really like to see statistics about overstaying... It is kind of a myth that high refusal rate (close to 10%) for Poles is because of overstaying. For what I know refusal of a visa is basically a lucky guess of a US clerk. He don't have to support it with anything.

The hard data are like this:

Number of "Tourists and business travelers" (without student exchange) in 2009 (wich I suppose means tourist visas) was:
-> 133,591

Number of "deportable aliens located by region and country of nationality: fiscal year 2009" from Poland was:
-> 216

Lacking data about overstaying and contemplating above I see alternatives as below:
1. US clerks are like precise weapon
- don't make me laugh...
2. US immigration securities are not good
- hm.. ok, maybe they are not very effective. But on the other hand let see statistics for Mexico:
6,156,298 tourist visas and 528,139 deportable aliens. It seems that they are much more effective with Mexicans... Or maybe, just maybe Poles don't overstay their visas en masse?

Sorry but it seems to me that it is a problem with US clerks at ambassy in Warsaw not with Poles here. Actually I'm not suprised that when clerk has a power to deny a visa because he don't like a colour of someone eyes then he uses that power...

Of course I must add that if someone will repair my failure and find some recent data about overstaying then I will withdraw my critism about US bureaucracy ;-)
FUZZYWICKETS 8 | 1,884
27 Dec 2010  #147
hey jwojcie, let me ask you this:

if the embassy in warsaw refuses about 10% of Poles who apply for a tourist visa, and of those 10%, 2% actually were planning on overstaying/never coming back, would that be a lot in your eyes? would that justify a 10% refusal rate? where is your line? where do you finally say, "yeah, ok, now I understand why Poles still need visas"..............???

in addition, you need to ask yourself, of the 90% that get the visa, a certain percentage of those overstay every year as well. so where's your line for that? if 1% of all Poles that go to America on a tourist visa overstay/never return, is that too many?

what numbers are acceptable to you all?
Ironside 48 | 9,796
27 Dec 2010  #148
if the embassy in warsaw refuses about 10% of Poles who apply for a tourist visa, and of those 10%, 2% actually were planning on overstaying/never coming

Its all criteria is plainly wrong, if someone will break the law then by all means punish him but you cannot punish people because there is a possibility that they may do something unlawful !

Well, you can do it but there should be the same treatment of USA citizens on Poland's part !
FUZZYWICKETS 8 | 1,884
27 Dec 2010  #149
Ironside wrote:

Its all criteria is plainly wrong, if someone will break the law then by all means punish him but you cannot punish people because there is a possibility that they may do something unlawful !
Well, you can do it but there should be the same treatment of USA citizens on Poland's part !

yeah......my questions still stand.
Ironside 48 | 9,796
27 Dec 2010  #150
my questions still stand.

yeah ? your questions are meaningless in the light of the above statement !


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