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Is there any chance that I can go right now to the US and start a life over there?


Rafael 1 | 2
5 Aug 2015  #1
Hey there guys ;-) My name is Rafael and I currently live in Poland. Right now I'm in the middle or my engineer university school in biomedical engineer specialization. I really enjoy to travel to the US and spend time there with family and friends. Actually it's my dream to be there and talk with them all the time and have a good life. I've always talk to the American people that you're so great ,nice and kind. You're always so helpful and talking with you is the most amazing thing in the whole day that you can imagine. I love the way how you say Hello ;-) How's going ? to everyone :-) and you're always answering I'm pretty good How are you ? even if you have a problem or you need help there's always another person that you can help anytime you need it. I just love to be there ;-). I've been many times in US especially in New Jersey ,New York , Pennsylvania , Chicago, and Clifton and I love it. These are beautiful States and cities ;-) It's been my dream to live in the US for so many years that I practically start to think that I should be there long ago. I mostly enjoy to view the landscapes and having a great time with friends and family. I was in the US especially on my summer break and I was leaving US after that. Two years ago I was on the vacation in Chicago and I wanted to stay over there but I wanted to finish up my school. Many friends told me that I should have stayed there because that I found out later our school does not count in the United States. I have a IT technician (it's a high school but with a specialization) and I passed that well ,but I don't know if I should end my study of leave it and start the school in United States. And now here's my question ;p because there is one problem that polish people cannot come to the US and live there legally. I've heard that earlier there was a sponsoring option when a guy can sponsor you and you can study and after school you can apply for a permanent position in a normal job ,but I think that many has changed in an American law. Is there any chance that I can go right now to the US and start a life over there. Is there any way to be there legally when you want it so bad and you have a family and friends over there ? If there's a chance any tiny way to be there please answer me to that post and I would be really glad to that. Thank you so much ;-)
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,681
5 Aug 2015  #2
have a family and friends over there

I think you should ask them and get information online about a green card.
Not sure what people here will be able to tell you .
OP Rafael 1 | 2
5 Aug 2015  #3
Yea I wanted to do that on the first place. I know there is a chance to win a green card in a lottery ;-) that will be really helpful to get there legally ;-)

Adam I don't know if there's a third world forum but as long as I can see your nick you're from Poland too ;-)
Tamarisk
5 Aug 2015  #4
I've lived in the US for almost 35 years. Came here from the UK when I was nine. All I'm going to say is that it's one thing to visit here on a vacation and it's entirely different when you actually have to live day to day. The US is not lined with gold. Nothing is handed to you for free. As for the "friendly" people, when I lived in California, I never even knew who my neighbors were. No one bothered to say hello or how are you. Everyone is so busy with the "rat race" earning money to live, they have no time for anything else. I'm not saying the US is completely bad, but all I'm saying is please come into this with your eyes open. There are many lovely countries in Europe where people can live a wonderful life. You don't have to come to the US just for the sake of coming to the US.
Jardinero 1 | 407
6 Aug 2015  #5
No surprise the US never tops any of the life-happiness rating charts despite all the hype, Hollywood, Wall Street, Silicon Valley, Microsoft, Apple, etc.... as a general rule to is good to the wealthy, not so great for the average Joes Shmoes... but there are exceptions. One way to get in legally would be through an employer sponsored visa - hospitals do that for medical staff, for instance... do a bit of google research...
Grochowski_M 1 | 9
6 Aug 2015  #6
Hello Rapheal.
You ask a very interesting question. I am from the U.S. my forefathers came from Poznan, Poland in 1872 and settled in Poznan, Michigan, USA. I would say that, in many ways, things were much different back then, but in many ways things are the same today

Tamarisk is correct, the U.S, is not lined in gold, and not much is given for free. I do not know about other countries, but I do know that if you are willing to work hard, it is still possible to be very successful in the U.S. My forefathers started as farmers when they first arrived, the next generation they worked as farmers and also industry, the next generation went into industry and also as merchants. My father bought a small grocery store and butcher shop and raised a large family. He also started to buy small land parcels and divide them and was a successful, but small, land developer. Myself I own a printing business. So, what I am saying is that if you are willing to work, opportunities still exist here.

So you could ask is this still possible today, and I would say that it very possible. In my small print shop I meet new people every day that are just beginning their venture. The one common factor among them is that they are hard working and have goals. I can explain a bit more but will have to be at a later date if you are interested. Just let me know.
TheOther 5 | 3,801
6 Aug 2015  #7
my forefathers came from Poznan, Poland in 1872 and settled in Poznan, Michigan, USA

They came from Posen, Provinz Westpreussen, German Empire, and settled in Posen, Michigan, USA. :)



Grochowski_M 1 | 9
7 Aug 2015  #8
This is from Wikipedia.
(It is the town that my gr gr Grandparents settled in approx 1873)

Posen is a village in Presque Isle County of the U.S. state of Michigan. The population was 234 at the 2010 census.
Posen has a strong Polish background as 61.3% of its inhabitants are reported to have Polish ancestry (the highest number in the U.S.). It is home to the Posen Potato Festival, held every year on during the first weekend after Labor Day. The festival includes activities with potato pancakes and polka dancing. Posen has a branch of the Presque Isle District Library. Posen is also the German name for the Polish city of PoznaƄ

Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
7 Aug 2015  #9
Posen is a village

I have visited Posen, one of the oldest Polish settlements in America. It's an interesting place to visit and has one of America's highest per capita Polish populations. Nestled in a beautiful part of the state of Michigan full of dense woodlands, it's a great place for hunters (deer, bear), anglers, campers, hikers, canoeists, mushroomers and other outdoorsy types. The cemetery shows Polish gravestones going back to the 1850s. And their Potato Festival is definitely worth seeing.
befranklin 1 | 41
7 Aug 2015  #10
Tamarisk, I wholeheartedly agree with what you are saying, there is no bed of roses here, no hand outs, no stars walking down the streets of Hollywood. It's a rat race, (especially here in southern California), with no beautiful landscape that you'd find anywhere in Poland. It's all about trying to make as much money as you can as fast as you can. And if someone is able to take advantage of you, they will. No one wants to know your name here in America especially if your a foreigner unless your a beautiful blonde Polish girl who doesn't care about that fact. Tamarisk is right about Europe and how much nicer it is than it is here in America. Because it's a bigger place with more jobs doesn't make it better. There are so many homeless out of work people looking for hand outs, that's what you encounter most in Southern California. Most of the rich people insulate themselves away from the commoners in their big expensive cars, estates and member only clubs. and as Tamarisk stated correctly it not completely bad but if you are looking to come here unless you marry a US citizen and get a green card, (a long process where you'll find yourself standing behind Mexicans, Colombians and all the others poor nations) it will not be an easy process and if you are lucky enough to get a tourist visa for 10 years you can't work or study while you are here. My advise if you want to come to the US is to find a nice American girl here with a good job, fall in love and get here to start the immigration paperwork for a fiance visa.

No surprise the US never tops any of the life-happiness rating charts despite all the hype, Hollywood, Wall Street, Silicon Valley, Microsoft, Apple, etc.... as a general rule to is good to the wealthy, not so great for the average Joes Shmoes... but there are exceptions. One way to get in legally would be through an employer sponsored visa - hospitals do that for medical staff, for instance... do a bit of google research...

This is very true and a good assessment. My wife who is educated with a degree works at Sears for minimum wage here. I'm glad that I have a good job or we wouldn't make it.
TheOther 5 | 3,801
7 Aug 2015  #11
It is the town that my gr gr Grandparents settled in approx 1873

Yes, I understood. You were using the Polish name Poznan though, which is simply wrong in this context.
Tamarisk
7 Aug 2015  #12
@befranklin

Couldn't have said it better myself. I lived in Southern California for 33 years. Some areas you think you are in Mexico. It's quite unbelievable. Even the city where my parents and I first lived when we arrived from the UK in 1980 (Downey) is now described as the "Mexican Beverly Hills" Currently I'm living on the East Coast in Virginia (don't ask, long story) and earlier this year I went to Alexandria to renew my Green Card. I seriously thought I was in a third world country at the immigration office. I was but one of a handful of white people there including staff. You would think the US Government would hire people in those roles who could actually speak English?!
drdre815 - | 4
8 Aug 2015  #13
I would choose Europe over US any day,its just a lot of hype about them that makes the attracts good things,some other countries can serve you pretty well...why not try the uk
WielkiPolak 58 | 1,034
8 Aug 2015  #14
It's all about trying to make as much money as you can as fast as you can. And if someone is able to take advantage of you, they will.

Sounds like most places then.
Jardinero 1 | 407
9 Aug 2015  #15
my forefathers came from Poznan, Poland in 1872

I daresay the world has changed a bit since 1872...

...if you are willing to work, opportunities still exist here. So you could ask is this still possible today, and I would say that it very possible. ... I meet new people every day that are just beginning their venture. The one common factor among them is that they are hard working and have goals.

Yes - just like any other developed country. The same could be said about Germany, Sweden, UK, etc. I cannot image how anyone could dream of relocating to a foreign land and becoming successful without being willing to work hard + right attitude. The difference then, other than the geographical location, lies in what it has to offer in addition to - or outside of - work. And it is here that America is simply not what it once used to be, despite the hype still being sold worldwide...
OP Rafael 1 | 2
21 Aug 2015  #16
Hey guys ;-) Thank you Grochowski M about that words of hope ;-). I've been trying to reach every possible way to get there. I was thinking about getting started to study over there and also about marriage but it's a harder way ;p I want to fall in love not to get just papers ;-) Two years ago I came to the lawyer and she said that's pretty easy way to start a study there, but I have to get some cash to prove that I can handle myself and pay for my classes. I've been so satisfied because that was a light in a tunnel and a small start in a whole big life ;-) I want to work hard and I want to study and even work there if it's a possible ;-) If you can tell me more about what you said that would be awesome ;-) I don't know this forum if you can send me a private message or text me here ;-) Any information will be priceless ;-) Thank you so much ;-) I really appreciate it ;-)

Tamarisk I've been in the UK two months ago I came back from Leeds it's in the West Yorkshire in Midlands. You don't want to know what happened there. It was totally mess I can send you few photos on private if you want to. If you say that in US people come over to get money in rat race you should see England in nowadays. You don't want to know what happened in London as well I've been in there only for 24 hours because I was waiting for a bus to Leeds and I don't want to go back there even if they'll pay me. I'm sorry to say that but it's a one ,big dumpster. You've got the prettiest landscapes in the world but how the cities looks like it's a one big trash. Just to let you know man I didn't want to offend you in any way. I just wanted to tell you how things have changed since you've been there. It's not about a money man. Everyone want to have a better life that's normally I guess ;-) I just love America ;-) I love the way that the people treat each other ;-) I love the way that they say hello I want to say "Hello ;-) How's going ? " to everyone ;-)
Jardinero 1 | 407
21 Aug 2015  #17
If you really believe what you wrote above, then you are in for a real shocker once you get there... and never mind an encounter with 'friendly' immigration officers at the airport or the police... but good luck chasing your dream - hope it comes true regardless!
Grochowski_M 1 | 9
27 Aug 2015  #18
"Yes, I understood. You were using the Polish name Poznan though, which is simply wrong in this context."
In all likelihood you are correct when you say "You were using the Polish name Poznan though, which is simply wrong in this context.". However as a child growing up near Posen, Mi, USA the town was always referred to as "Poznan" by my elders (grandparents and father) as they spoke in polish much of the time.
texas09 - | 33
27 Aug 2015  #19
You should try to apply as a foreign student to college in the US. That way, you can still experience living in the US without completely turning your life around, and if you decide you don't like day-to-day life in the US, you can go back to Poland without really losing much or wasting time.

It's harder for foreign students to get into US colleges than it is for US students, but if you do your research regarding what colleges you have the best chance with, are able to pay tuition and living expenses, and have the right grades, test scores, letters of intent etc etc etc, you may have a chance. I'd reach out to your family and friends in the US to help you with that, as well as the Polish Consulate in the US and any Polish organizations (particularly student/academic) in the US to help guide you.


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