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American people attitude towards Poles in the USA


plk123 8 | 4,150
25 Sep 2007 #31
two polaks go bear hunting.
as they near their destination they come to a fork in the road
and they see a sign that says"bears left"
so, they turn around and go home.

LOL
OP sledz 23 | 2,250
25 Sep 2007 #32
And we don't see them committing major crimes in the streets. There's nothing to complain about. They're not bothering anyone.

I agree, the crime in other ethnic neighborhoods is way higher than here in Polonia

Yes this could have a lot to do with it. Also the fact that we like to think we're multi-cultural in the UK but compared to the USA we aren't really.

Thanks PD, I can drive from one side of my city and pass through
Little Korea / Asian
Greek town
Ukrainian village
Chinatown
Little Italy
Latino
Irish/ celtic
German
Polonia
to name a few

cant we just stop all these anti Polish threads

I just copied English people attitute towards poles thread
then changed the name of the country

This discussion is about American attitudes to Polish people in the USA?
If we widened the debate to include Canada, might someone actually mention the Western side of the Atlantic for a change?

Thanks donkey you are very observant:)

How were Polish people seen in America before the end of Communism

To tell you the truth I dont think many Americans payed much attention to it
krysia 23 | 3,057
26 Sep 2007 #33
Thanks PD, I can drive from one side of my city and pass through

Don't forget Little Mexico
NativeAmerican
26 Sep 2007 #34
I think most of the Mexicans in the U.S. illegally are here to work hard and earn and honest living.

I volunteered for an organization that gave free English lessons to immigrants and refugees regardless of their status (legal/illegal) and RARELY did any Latinos/as show up - they'd sign up but not show up. The fact is (at least from my experience) they 1. don't want to learn English but think all Americans should have to learn Spanish and 2. they don't want to work legally because they would have to pay taxes and this means less money to send back home.

Unlike 50-75 years ago, the mills are no longer hiring anyone with a strong back.

These things vary a bit from state to state but in my state (Minnesota) they can't receive ANY welfare without a Social Security number which is the ever-sought-after green card. They still manage to get welfare here though, thanks to false documents and people who have died and people who have returned to their native countries giving or selling their documents.

The Poles on the other hand have several things going for them.

Does all that really matter?

At the end of the day, I hate all illegal immigrants - in every country around the world (including idiot Americans that sit in other countries teaching English illegally, taking work away from the nationals of the country)! I don't see why people can't go through the proper channels and enter legally, other than they're criminals or have lied on their applications about something and were caught. I know the problems illegal immigration causes here and I have heard from Poles about the problems of illegal immigration by Ukrainians in Poland so I'm sure Poles on reading thread can understand both sides of the issue.

But I can honestly say that I have never heard about problems with illegal immigrants in Mexico. =)

All that aside, I think Poles are great contributors to all of western societies and I don't understand why the US government is so tight with their visas.

Why are they so tight with them?
krysia 23 | 3,057
26 Sep 2007 #35
Why are they so tight with them?

Why? Because there are too many who overstay their visa. They get a tourist visa and don't return as promised. The US goverment does not like that. There are too many illegals who don't pay taxes, while we work our asses off and 1/3 gets taken away for taxes while they work illegally and pay no taxes.
NativeAmerican
26 Sep 2007 #36
And yet they do little to secure the US/Mexico border. Our largest illegal immigrant population is by leaps and bounds from Mexico. We shouldn't worry so much about a few Poles until we take care of the how-many-millions of Mexican.
krysia 23 | 3,057
26 Sep 2007 #37
That's true. The Mexicans dig holes, jump fences, swim just to cross the border. Other countries can't do that, except for Canada which borders the US. But they could care less. :)
NativeAmerican
26 Sep 2007 #38
We love Canuks! Really, my state borders Canada and we LOVE them because they 1. put up with us and 2. don't flood our border. In fact, I should imagine they have a similar problem with the US as the US has with Mexico! =)
krysia 23 | 3,057
26 Sep 2007 #39
The cigarettes and vodka is cheaper in the US
OP sledz 23 | 2,250
26 Sep 2007 #40
don't want to learn English but think all Americans should have to learn Spanish

Soo true!!

Illegall Mexicans are the scurge upon the US
They overburden our health and education system.
krysia 23 | 3,057
26 Sep 2007 #41
They overburden our health and education system.

Yeah, they make us learn Spanish and make us fart after eating them bean buritos.
Lightbulb 1 | 39
26 Sep 2007 #42
So true. We usually can't even tell they're Polish just by looking at them.

That's pretty much the answer to the question, I think. I grew up in the Chicago area, and there were a ton of Polish immigrant kids at the schools I went to, but there were so many Ukranian and Russian and Romanian and other European immigrant kids that it all blends together. Only when you get older and think back into your memory do you sort of remember where specifically everyone was from. When you're a kid you just think of them as regular kids with odd accents, although the accents disappear pretty quick in most cases. :)
Uncle Sam - | 2
2 Oct 2007 #43
Hmmm!!! Chicago...where do I start. Okay...

1st-Learn English.

2nd-Get a valid drivers license and insurance.

3rd- This is America so quit throwing Polish flags in our faces because that is rude,
unpatriotic and an insult to the citizens of this country.

4th- Pay taxes on the money you earn (i.e. scabbing construction jobs for cash) and join a union....isn't that what the hero Lech Wałęsa was all about....unions & worker rights??

5th-The recent surge in heroin dealing Polish gangs is unacceptable.

6th- Quit moving 6-10 unrelated people into a house when the neighborhood is zoned single-family residential.

I am not an immigrant basher.... but when a large populace from the same region of the world continuously ignores the rules of the country that they are guests in....well that is going to cause some bad sentiments. The idea is to blend and fit in. In order to do that you emulate the customs of the country that you live in.
FISZ 24 | 2,116
2 Oct 2007 #44
This is America so quit throwing Polish flags in our faces because that is rude, unpatriotic and an insult to the citizens of this country.

How about all of the people with foreign heritage? Italians, PR's...etc. I think flags are ok because people have the right to be proud of where they come from. It's part of being American and utilizing your rights as one. It's no insult to me :) just a minor few

I am not an immigrant basher

riiiight.....
randompal 7 | 306
2 Oct 2007 #45
How were Polish people seen in America before the end of Communism?

We were/are seen as stupid dolts, hence the dumb Polak jokes you often hear all over the USA. Not only among the idiots you see standing around the keg at a frat party, but also in the press ( I have seen Polak jokes in Stuff magazine). Maybe we are stupid, we have a habit of worshipping and idolizing the same people who cut us up right to our faces. Pathetic.

Other countries can't do that, except for Canada which borders the US. But they could care less. :)

Probably because they don't need to. Their standard of living is just as high plus they even get free health insurance. Why do you think Poles willingly go to Germany to work, but almost no one from Poland goes to Ukraine or Moldova to work?
FISZ 24 | 2,116
2 Oct 2007 #46
hence the dumb Polak jokes you often hear all over the USA

Did you ever notice that there are jokes about every nation & race in America?

Maybe we are stupid

Are you speaking for yourself? I don't know any stupid PL. Perhaps you believe these jokes ;)
jnowiski 2 | 121
2 Oct 2007 #47
Did you ever notice that there are jokes about every nation & race in America?

ditto. when i was at Basic i heard Polish jokes all the time. but thats exactly what they are...jokes. this world is becoming way to politically correct for me, when no one can take a simple joke.
FISZ 24 | 2,116
2 Oct 2007 #48
I think black, Mexican and Michael Jackson jokes are heard more.
jnowiski 2 | 121
2 Oct 2007 #49
yeah, and they can't take it either. the mexicans can. there are some awesomely funny MJ jokes out there though :)
randompal 7 | 306
2 Oct 2007 #50
Are you speaking for yourself?

No because I don't worship the Great Satan like many misguided people I know. I lived in America long enough to know the difference between some drunk fool that sputters off some Polak joke just to try to get a laugh and a wink out of you and someone who calls you a dumb Polak with actual venom in their voice just because you said something they didn't particularly like. And I'm not talking about one isolated ******* I came accross at a lame party, I'm talking about many wonderful Americans I have come accross. But I prefer the jokes Germans tell about Poles- I'd rather be jokingly known as thief than a retard.

Did you ever notice that there are jokes about every nation & race in America?

So maybe there are, I was just answering Osiol's question. He asked what Americans think of Poles...
FISZ 24 | 2,116
2 Oct 2007 #51
He asked what Americans think of Poles...

And aside from a minor group of ignorant people, we generally like and welcome Poles.

I'd rather be jokingly known as thief than a retard.

You yourself are guilty of calling PL ppl retarded :)

.\nn/
jnowiski 2 | 121
2 Oct 2007 #52
I'd rather be jokingly known as thief than a retard.

i'm the opposite for sure, i am a self proclaimed retard at work.

He asked what Americans think of Poles...

that's not what Americans think of Polish people dude, if you think that then you are retarded.
randompal 7 | 306
2 Oct 2007 #53
you can whitewash others but not me, gringo. Like I said, I lived in America long enough to know exactly what you folks think of Polaks so drop it, we can play this game all night...but you're right, its harmless good fun when Americans tell dumb Polak jokes, and thaTS coming from one of the least politically correct people I know...me;)
jnowiski 2 | 121
2 Oct 2007 #54
yeah, i actually have no idea how american's view polish people, since i've only lived here my whole life with the last name Nowiski. :)
randompal 7 | 306
2 Oct 2007 #55
why then must you be blind to the hatred??

haha tylko zartuje cioto, wyluzuj
jnowiski 2 | 121
2 Oct 2007 #56
why then must you be blind to the hatred??

lol, good one :)

tylko zartuje cioto, wyluzuj

translate that into russian and i'll understand it :D
randompal 7 | 306
2 Oct 2007 #57
translate that into russian

forget about your commie Russian and learn the noble language of your forefathers. I just saw Katyn at the cinema today, man it was depressing
jnowiski 2 | 121
2 Oct 2007 #58
i want to learn polish, but not many places where i'm from have it. i learned russian in the military. they used to teach polish at the SOF language school, but its not as "useful" as russian so they say.
randompal 7 | 306
2 Oct 2007 #59
i've only lived here my whole

just wondering have you ever been to Poland?

its not as "useful" as russian so they say.

i'm sure "they" say all kinds of things...
jnowiski 2 | 121
2 Oct 2007 #60
just wondering have you ever been to Poland?

no, i'd like to. and plan on it someday, but don't have the time right now thanks to war and all.

i'm sure "they" say all kinds of things...

yeah, "they" are also retarded though.


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