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Time for the Poles from the UK to go home


Seanus 15 | 19,672
28 Feb 2010 #361
Aha, thanks. TIT is a laugh here, he plays the victim very well. I try to be balanced with my commentary as I have no axes to grind. He just doesn't seem to be aware of basic political science, EU Law and realities.
Foreigner4 12 | 1,768
28 Feb 2010 #362
TIT
i'm not sure that's the sentiment. perhaps, just perhaps there are many groups at fault when there are large groups of people who feel compelled to move from their homes for economic reasons and equally large numbers who feel their home is being taken advantage of.

acknowledging someone's perspective doesn't mean your pov is necessarily "wrong," y'know.
TIT 5 | 211
28 Feb 2010 #363
next war I will be probably on some new version of henkel 111 or me 109 flying in direction up north of cannal :)
Seanus 15 | 19,672
28 Feb 2010 #364
Don't Henkel make detergents? ;) ;) Anyway TIT, I've put it plainly to you above and that's just the reality of it. Contest it if you will.
TIT 5 | 211
28 Feb 2010 #365
, he plays the victim very well

right, now I know how felt Poles in UK after WW2 - hey Janek it is your own fault, better accept it. Betraying? what betraying, your goverment fcuked it up that you have no country, dont like it here ? well you can go back if you like.
Nika 2 | 507
28 Feb 2010 #366
I reckon Poland will be the new destination and Polish women seem to like a touch of the tar brush :D

Amathyst please stop acting like you English women don't mix, because it's not true. I'm sure there is much more English married to Indians, Pakis etc than Polish.

As for Polish opinion about drunken idiots in Krakow, Im not too concerend...Im sure the money they spend sooths the pain slightly.

Congratulations for your "I pay 1£ for my beer, so have the right to pis* up your churches and show my naked a** in Rynek, where you people go for a walk with you children and grand-parents" thinking.

Doesn't surprise me coming from a Western European though...you ppl don't respect anything, except for money.
Seanus 15 | 19,672
28 Feb 2010 #367
What do you know about it? I had Polish neighbours for years and they never had any problems in Scotland. Many Poles were happy working in the harbours up north. They had work and were well received by the Scots. That was in the decades following WWII. During WWII, my grandad has told me much about how the Poles were paraded as great helpers/pilots and how the local lassies wanted to get to know them. Nobody said a bad word about them. So, where are your tales?

Betraying? How defensive of you. I never said anything about it, I was talking about Poles making free choices to take up employment in the UK. It is you who felt betrayal inside and it is you that has to live with that. I'm happy and respectful in Poland so what's your point?

Why all the talk of fault? I'm talking about realities and saying that sometimes you have to look inside for answers. It's all too easy to pass the buck.

Nika, I know of many Scottish people that live for much more than money. Many of the materialists in my home city are foreigners who come to take up positions in the oil&gas industry. They work for international corporations and don't follow the traditional Scottish ethos of being thrifty. Want the connection with thrift? They are spendthrifts.
TIT 5 | 211
28 Feb 2010 #368
so if next time if the group of Brits will say to me, you Polish shouldn't be here because all mess in your country has nothing to do with us what I should do is to be their yes man.
Seanus 15 | 19,672
28 Feb 2010 #369
You have free will, TIT, use it as you will and react accordingly. Poles have a right to be there under EU Law and I've said it many many times on different threads. So, what's your point??????

Ignore them, that's what I'd do.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,148
28 Feb 2010 #370
I love the way English plebs come here and try to "scare" us... we will leave EU, Poles will be deported from the UK... yep, the sky is already falling on our heads... Don't the plebs really understand that 99% of us couldn't care less about It ? You want out of the EU ? Go for It, organize protests, put pressure on your politicians, push for the referendum, stop polluting our living space with your pink cries, just do It.
TIT 5 | 211
28 Feb 2010 #371
you can't ignore a half of population, if they dont underestand the reason why I am here and why but anyway I dont expect them to understand these subtle things. I would be more focused on media who feed them with such genuine answers and quick explanations.
Seanus 15 | 19,672
28 Feb 2010 #372
Well said Greg! Unfortunately, Tusk is part of that 99% ;) ;) but the returning Poles do/would care.

TIT, what are you wittering on about now? Half of what population? You are like a loose cannon with little coherence.
Exiled 2 | 425
28 Feb 2010 #373
Most English have a different idea about EU than most of other nations.
1.For Mediteraneans EU is the milk cow the possibility to belong to the rich club
2.For Germans it is their market and living space
for English it is an unavoidable evil a harm.
TIT 5 | 211
28 Feb 2010 #374
well keep your way of thinking if you like Seanus
Seanus 15 | 19,672
28 Feb 2010 #375
What way of thinking would that be? It's not my way of thinking at all, I just don't get the points you are trying to make. A good teacher will ask their students to say sth in an easier way or put it in context. Sometimes I feel that you have sth in mind that others can't access and I'd appreciate more clarity in your posts. Thanks!
TIT 5 | 211
28 Feb 2010 #376
you have a strange tendency to use way too much words which intend to slander

Aha, thanks. TIT is a laugh here

he plays the victim very well

He just doesn't seem to be aware of basic political science, EU Law and realities.

what are you wittering on about

Seanus 15 | 19,672
28 Feb 2010 #377
It would be libel if it was in writing. You are a laugh, TIT. I stand by that one (thinks of Joe Pesci) :) :) Nothing libellous, just observation.

The same applies for the rest. You can prove me wrong if you want. I'm not flaming at all.

I just don't think you are making valid and coherent points, that's all.
TIT 5 | 211
28 Feb 2010 #378
well I think otherwise
Seanus 15 | 19,672
28 Feb 2010 #379
Isn't that just the beauty of humanity, that we can think differently? :)

Some Poles were welcomed and some weren't, Exiled.
BevK 11 | 248
28 Feb 2010 #380
Exactly. And just to put another perspective on it, there were Poles around in my teenage years complaining about black and Asian people (I'm sorry, I just can't bring myself to use the hateful words they did) and *I* used to say to them "Well, that's here, if you don't like it go back to Poland" but slightly different context when these are people you are related to. Also, Polish people are well aware that they are not the most tolerant country themselves and I've known a fair few people say that society must change.

That reflects the socio-economic situation of many of my students as well as a level of intelligence and an ability to think beyond the end of their nose. I just tell them not to judge that the UK is anything like a tolerant or accepting society because it never was. Not seen drive by shootings here, or kids carrying knives etc.

Yet.
Seanus 15 | 19,672
28 Feb 2010 #381
You have to go to Kielce (syzorki) ;) ;)
Amathyst 19 | 2,702
28 Feb 2010 #383
Amathyst please stop acting like you English women don't mix, because it's not true. I'm sure there is much more English married to Indians, Pakis etc than Polish.

I dont see that many English women with Indians, I see plenty of Polish girls with them.

Congratulations for your "I pay 1£ for my beer, so have the right to pis* up your churches and show my naked a** in Rynek, where you people go for a walk with you children and grand-parents" thinking.
Doesn't surprise me coming from a Western European though...you ppl don't respect anything, except for money.

You people :D love it, priceless...I said I dont care about the behaviour of these idiots, why should I? I dont behave like that. As for the whole money thing, what, if not for money are Poles doing in the UK? We also respect plenty of things, honesty being one of them.

I just tell them not to judge that the UK is anything like a tolerant or accepting society because it never was.

You're right its not, but if you compare it to Poland, it's a utopia for foreigners - your Polish students are less likely to be targeted in the UK than some African is in Poland.

Ive also heard that knife crime is quite high in Poland, but that might have been an exaggeration on a friends part (he's Polish).
RevokeNice 15 | 1,854
28 Feb 2010 #384
Poles screaming racism again. What would happen if vast throngs of Brits and Paddys emigrated to Poland en masse?

"If we had the same situation with migrants in Poland as you have had in Ireland, it would be Armageddon," says Tomasz Bastkowski, principal of the Polish Saturday School in Dublin.

irishtimes
wildrover 98 | 4,436
28 Feb 2010 #385
What would happen if vast throngs of Brits and Paddys emigrated to Poland en masse?

They would not be able to find a job...and they would all starve...thats what would happen...
Torq
28 Feb 2010 #386
What would happen if vast throngs of Brits and Paddys emigrated to Poland en masse?

They would not be able to find a job...and they would all starve...thats what would happen...

Most likely.

Or in better circumstances - we could have our own GAA, much better football team
and maybe our rugby NT would stop losing against teams like Madagascar :-)
RevokeNice 15 | 1,854
28 Feb 2010 #387
They would not be able to find a job...and they would all starve...thats what would happen...

Unemployment is higher in Ireland and the UK than in Poland. Using your logic they should all be fooked out back to goulash land. Dont want them starving!
Torq
28 Feb 2010 #388
Using your logic they should all be fooked out back to goulash land.

Send Poles back to Hungary? *confused*
Seanus 15 | 19,672
28 Feb 2010 #389
Exactly, maybe he meant bogracz land, or leczo land? Wait, that's Hungary too ;) ;) (smiles)
Nika 2 | 507
28 Feb 2010 #390
Send Poles back to Hungary? *confused*

Maybe he means that unemployment in Hungary is very low, and we should try our luck there?
I think we should consider giving it a try.....tam nas jeszcze en masse nie widzieli.... :)

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