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Polish striking due to anti-Polish UK feeling


Tryweryn
7 Aug 2015  #1
telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/11783297/Polish-workers-in-UK-consider-strike-over-anti-immigrant-rhetoric.html

Interesting read the above. Of course Polish are disliked in the UK, your an EU invading people like the Germans. I made the mistake of employing 25 EU workers. I can tell you if any of them strike....they will be replaced with none striking British workers.

I actually hate my polish workers. They can not cope with stress and complain all day.
Wulkan - | 3,255
7 Aug 2015  #2
they will be replaced with none striking British workers.

Good luck dreamy boy
OP Tryweryn
7 Aug 2015  #3
Nothing dreamy about it...start striking and watch anti polish sentiment grow. Your an arogant nasty people.
NocyMrok
7 Aug 2015  #4
You will do nothing about it because you employ no one. I don't complain about my work and not called a "benefit scrounger" although i have already informed managers about me going on strike to support the ones who struggle.
OP Tryweryn
7 Aug 2015  #5
Well that is your under estimation...i run a family business and the fact is we will replace any worker who strikes. They have been told it is that simple. I have never met such a nasty arrogant people you are no different to German Nazis the way you treat your uk hosts. I see in the UK attacks are on the increase against Polish, you only have you rarogant self to blame.

If you are British and you come across a Polish worker in a cafe, hotel etc. Just walk out and send the head office an email saying why you wouldn't use the business. It works. A hotel close by sacked its polish due to public opinion....try it.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,670
7 Aug 2015  #6
Why the **** would I do that? If I want a coffee I want a coffee.
Why is your name Tryweryn? do you cofiuwch? are you thirsty? lol
ryouga 4 | 59
7 Aug 2015  #7
To be fair it will cause the Polish community far more harm then good, one of the main reasons people hire Polish people is that they see them as harder workers and do not complain as much which people say is due to things like even a low wage here is a high wage for Poland, and British workers have more rights in the workplace and know when to complain.

If Polish workers striked then their main advantage over British workers would be negated.

A factory in my home town area now hires ALL Polish and dropped the wages in regards to this, another factory originally closed down as it was cheaper to have foreign factories, when the Polish people started moving here they reopened the factories and gave minimum wage when it used to be over £9 and all overtime and weekends used to be double wages, and again they only hire Polish, discrimination is meant to be illegal but it happens.

Not getting at Polish workers by the way just saying they get work easier then British people due to postive discrimination/stereotypes.
Marsupial - | 907
8 Aug 2015  #8
Instead of striking how about speaking english for christs sake.
Wulkan - | 3,255
8 Aug 2015  #9
one of the main reasons people hire Polish people is that they see them as harder workers and do not complain

Indeed, why would I complain. Around £4000 (after deduction) a month plus perks like company's car and others. I sure need to do quite a few overtimes and get a bit of a stress here and there sometimes but this price is reasonable for my services, I can't really complain.

Instead of striking how about speaking english for christs sake.

That's right, any time when I stop in Black Country, it's right next to Birmingham, I see why this people look so miserable right after I listen to them, If they could speak better English it surely benefited them.
tactactoe
8 Aug 2015  #10
Well someone else will do it, it won't worry the employers of this crap hole of a country. I would he careful if you think striking will help you because it won't, do your job get your pay and go home.
Sick of it
8 Aug 2015  #11
I personally find the polish arrogant and self entitled. Polish people are only here because of big business wanting keep wages low. We managed perfectly fine before you.

Please go on strike.

Let people in that deserve it, i.e gurkas.
Marsupial - | 907
8 Aug 2015  #12
Yes it must be a huge issue that's why the 4 papers we just looked at don't even have a mention. Not a peep.
Wulkan - | 3,255
8 Aug 2015  #13
Polish people are only here because of big business wanting keep wages low.

How is £4000 a month low wage? Would you like to tell us how much you make?
Sick of it
8 Aug 2015  #14
I wouldn't be as "Arrogant" or vulgar as to compare incomes, also you're being over pedantic as the majority of polish workers are low key expert deceivers, with unverified dubious pasts.

As I said; Pawns for the rich and a drain on the resources. Eventually everything will be privatised, just as the government wants, because they knew people like the poles and other immigrants would just milk society for all its worth.
tictactoe
8 Aug 2015  #15
What do you do that earns you 60k gross.

It would actually be more than that gross as I forgot the higher tax rate at 50k. What do you do ?
Wulkan - | 3,255
8 Aug 2015  #16
What do you do that earns you 60k gross.

I'm PLC engineer but I basically do anything in automation systems.
tictactoe
8 Aug 2015  #17
Automation !! He is putting us all out of a job ! :-)
Dougpol1 27 | 2,683
8 Aug 2015  #18
I wouldn't be as "Arrogant" or vulgar as to compare incomes

But Wulkan has obviously integrated pretty well into boringly uneducated British society, as in the pub talk of "Yes , that's my motor parked (ostentatiously) outside the pub. It cost me 50 big ones".

Who gives a flying ****? PS> In the meantime, if any worker is being discriminated against, that is a serious matter, and unscrupulous employers beware.
ryouga 4 | 59
8 Aug 2015  #19
Again to be fair I would say the majority of Polish workers are in the lower paid jobs such as factory work, cleaners, shop workers etc not in specialist jobs hence they do the lower paid jobs.

And I am quite serious when I say employers hire the Polish more, I can even link to an article from my home town which mentions that the owners made management do courses to learn Polish so they could speak to the staff!, but will be harder to get the proof you only get from living in area i.e instead of hiring locals they run a free bus service 15 miles away to a different town and a housing estate where all the local Polish live, now that is bad, as before they hired Polish workers they had such a surplus of applicants you needed to get a test in things like maths skills(since you were working in factory and had to work out how many of each item to use and when to change stickers etc) and timekeeping, even then they were turning people down for failing the basic test now they hire Polish who dont even speak English!

I am not attacking the local Polish community saying that though, just saying its relevant because the employers hire them as they have lowered the wages.

And this is a interesting thing, I was turned down for the company (despite having applied and been accepted in the past more than once) as was my friend, we reapplied at same time using foreign surnames and were offered the job without even coming to interview! The applications were identical in every other way, and also some friends of ours who had years of factory experience were rejected and we had none.

I dont mind immigration but we have gotten to a point where people are taking advantage now, I grew up in a area which had people from around the world and had no issues, had Japanese friend, Hungarian friend, French friend, German etc and never once did where they come from come up in a negative light, even had a local Lithuanian society and not once did the locals complain in fact locals used to drink with them and things would not be anywhere near as bad if people spoke English and mixed with locals instead of isolating themselves.

Sorry that might sound like a argument but its not its just some things I have noticed.
tictactoe
8 Aug 2015  #20
ryouga....You are right. I live in the countryside with a few factories nearby and they also place a bus service on for local Polish worker's.

Immigration has affected life for working class people. Just to give you an example in 1997 I got a job through an agency working for Safeway at Christmas time. The rate of pay was £5.79 + shift allowance + productivity bonus, this was the rate for workers, as an agency worker I got £10 an hr.

You had to pass tests, learn to drive a pallet truck and also gain a FLT licence but all this was provided free. I earned £600 a week in 1997 over 6 days.

Now, its taken over by Morrisons but its the same for any factory, warehouse etc. Everywhere is zero hr contracts at minimum wage. This is because when immigration occurred a lot of immigrants wanted unskilled work, warehousing and factory work etc.

They had an abundance of takers and the low wage didn't matter, £5.50 in 2015 is lot to the those who are from poor parts of Poland.

Its not picking on anyone. Immigration has affected life for working class British folk and of course there is resentment. Brits have been labeled lazy scroungers through immigration when all they would like is to be able to make a decent living once more.
delboyinpoland - | 9
8 Aug 2015  #21
why agencies support that process? they English aren't they?
who is responsible for that mess?
hammock
8 Aug 2015  #22
who is responsible for that mess?

The principle of really existing free market theory: free markets are fine for Poles, but not for Brits. So you -- whoever you may be -- you have to learn responsibility, and be subjected to market discipline, it's good for your character, it's tough love, and so on, and so forth. But me, I need the nanny State, to protect me from market discipline, so that I'll be able to rant and rave about the marvels of the free market, while I'm getting properly subsidized and defended by everyone else, through the nanny State. And also, this has to be risk-free. So I'm perfectly willing to make profits, but I don't want to take risks. If anything goes wrong, the nanny State bail me out.
tictactoe
8 Aug 2015  #23
Its like oil prices, the more barrels that pumped the cheaper the price regardless of who owns what.
delboyinpoland - | 9
8 Aug 2015  #24
I dont to say what I like but what is an objective process
Cameron's friends support that
Wulkan - | 3,255
8 Aug 2015  #25
Again to be fair I would say the majority of Polish workers are in the lower paid jobs such as factory work, cleaners, shop workers etc not in specialist jobs hence they do the lower paid jobs.

Majority for sure but that's still better than you as you get rejected even from the jobs like this.

I can even link to an article from my home town which mentions that the owners made management do courses to learn Polish so they could speak to the staff!

Please provide the link cause I don't believe that.

And this is a interesting thing, I was turned down for the company (despite having applied and been accepted in the past more than once) as was my friend, we reapplied at same time using foreign surnames and were offered the job without even coming to interview! The applications were identical in every other way, and also some friends of ours who had years of factory experience were rejected and we had none.

Being able to prove that would be also very powerful thing.
Malopolanin 3 | 134
8 Aug 2015  #26
things would not be anywhere near as bad if people spoke English and mixed with locals instead of isolating themselves.

I wonder who integrates better - Poles in UK or Brits in Poland?
ryouga 4 | 59
8 Aug 2015  #27
I am a little offended by you, and by the way I at no point did I say I was rejected for EVERY job I applied for, that is just you making assumptions, why are your assumptions somehow valid and mine not? I by then had found other work and work now but it is a fact that all my past employers(the ones that havent gone out of business) now hire majority Polish workers, the main one is holiday parks, I am of the mind that the BEST person should get the job, I do not mind where that person comes from but being Polish does not automatically make the best, I grew up in a very poor family to the point we had to wear about 4 layers of clothes at winter and we only had heating on 1 day a year, at most other times it was under a hour a day, I owned 1 pair of trousers and shoes, my diet was home made lentil soup and we lived in a house with mice, and damp so bad that a few years ago an inspector broke his leg testing the wood by stamping on it and it broke, because I grew up in a poor family I have a good work ethic, EVERY job except one where the boss bullied me I used to get letters from the bosses saying I was the number 1 or top 5 employee out of HUNDREDS! I was even BEGGED to stay at multiple jobs only AFTER we had a large Polish community that I struggled to find work, and by the way I have a degree in computer programming and until recently worked for a large company that did work around the world.

Here is a link but its a old one, since then the company now hires ONLY Polish but the article is so old, newsandstar.co.uk/news/bosses-are-polishing-up-on-their-polish-1.331653.

The very first paragraph even mentions about how they are learning to speak to the migrant workers, lets see you wriggle out of that one.

The reason I am offended as it seems to be that you think that unless something can be proven it is wrong, and then quick to go on the offensive accusing me of being unable to get a job.

By the way it was the same employer that the management had to learn Polish that turned me down till I used my Polish birth surname (since you know, I am of mixed Polish and Maltese heritage)

I suppose you will assume the fact the same factory runs free buses to a Polish housing estate as a lie too despite it being well known in different towns in the region.

Not everything is an attack on Polish people, to argue with it is actually more offensive since you are making judgements on people, from your other comments on this thread it does seem you are basically saying you do well and since you are a one of a few people with a high skill set that means no one is allowed to have any issue with the other 99.9% of people.

I am proud to have Polish blood in me, in fact many times I am more proud of that than English blood, I see the good in all people, but that doesnt mean I cannot also see the problems.

And for your information the reason in the past when I have been out of work is due to disability.
Wulkan - | 3,255
8 Aug 2015  #28
from your other comments on this thread it does seem you are basically saying you do well.

well that 99.9% is indeed offensive, and you say that I'm offensive? Now I see what's the autism all about.
ryouga 4 | 59
8 Aug 2015  #29
If it was offensive then it would be unintentional unlike your comments.

What would be offensive would be to say that 99.9% of Polish people have no skills, me saying 99.9% was simply a comment that the majority of Polish people here are doing work such as factory, cleaning, shop, or a little more skilled like builders(but not a job where theres a shortage of people already skilled)

Its not literally 99.9% but its the majority or do you deny that theres more Polish people in most working class fields?

Literally the only jobs I have seen Polish people do outside of the things like factory or builders is a single building where all the dentists were Polish, and they went back to Poland after a few years anyway.

I am not the sort of person that lets say I am in the workplace and have to work with a Polish person am going to refuse, if anything I would probably enjoy it because I would talk about where they come from and what brought them here over a British person, I will not be raising the pitchforks just like though the vast majority of my Polish neighbours over the years have been a nightmare I still get on well with the few ones I have had no problems with.

Still you were the one quick to make certain comments thats why you want to bring up other peoples faults, I do not know if its because you feel like you are the victim or just not a friendly person either way if you never made such comments in the first place it would never of come to this.
Wulkan - | 3,255
8 Aug 2015  #30
What would be offensive would be to say that 99.9% of Polish people have no skills

Yes, if you well know it's not the truth then it is offensive lie of yours.

do you deny that theres more Polish people in most working class fields?

Majority for sure but that's still better than you as you get rejected even from the jobs like this.

Why do you ask me a question that I have already just answered? Oh I forgot... autism, maybe I just have too many expectations from you.


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