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No Poles Allowed! - Latest Polonophobic Outrage Out of Britain


OP Bieganski 17 | 901
29 Dec 2017 #121
racist UK, you seem to have somehow missed this one. My local pub when I lived in London

(Sigh)

You can't be serious.

You're the one who obviously has been trawling the internet in a desperate attempt to draw attention away from the scourge of Polonophobia with some soppy xmas time "feel good" story.

But is it?

No.

Good deeds are done by millions of Poles each and every day without any fuss or recognition.

But here a British business is making a big production for simply returning money to the rightful owner.

It's a good way to advertise though isn't it? Free and effortless too when turning to twitter and facebook and having their users do all the leg work in tracking someone down.

There's more to this too.

Look how the British featured the generic pay envelope:





Now look at this staged photo and how it is the British gleefully smiling and pointing at the Polish man who is nonplus and holding a wad of notes.



Hmmm, let's see.

£600 in cash; a face now associated to the Polish name and plastered in a newspaper and all over the internet; and look on the pay envelope - NO DEDUCTIONS!

It's clear now why a taxed British business like a pub (which can easily take in £1,000 a day) was so keen in reuniting Mariusz with his "Crimbo wage packet".

After all, 31 January is the deadline to file self assessments in the UK or face fines.
Dougpol1 33 | 3,278
29 Dec 2017 #122
look on the pay envelope - NO DEDUCTIONS!

You obviously know nothing about sub-contracting. The man will be responsible for his own books. There are no deductions made at source.

And as before, you are only interested in your silly theories of "Polonophobia." Admit that you are wrong and we can move on to more important matters.

Good deeds are done by millions of Poles each and every day without any fuss or recognition.

What a ridiculous remark. You are alright, aren't you Bieganski?
OP Bieganski 17 | 901
29 Dec 2017 #123
The man will be responsible for his own books. There are no deductions made at source.

Hence why I pointed out that the taxed British pub was making a dog and pony show for simply returning money to a patron.

Why all the attention seeking other than to advertise for their own business while simultaneously signalling to the rabid Brexiteering public and HMRC that they found Johnny Foreigner's wages in a cash stuffed envelope showing no deductions?

Look again at the staged photo. Two British jobsworths with ****-eating grins standing side-by-side as if the Pole has just been nicked for some wrongdoing. Frankly, it looks like a poor attempt at a perp walk.

silly theories of "Polonophobia."

A proven reality which you are too ashamed to face up to and too cowardly to take responsibility for.

It's attitudes like yours which allows Polonophobia to exist.
Dougpol1 33 | 3,278
29 Dec 2017 #124
they found Johnny Foreigner's wages in a cash stuffed envelope showing no deductions?

As I already explained, if the man is a sub-contractor - thus working for himself - there are no deductions payable. This is the legality of it. He is responsible for his own tax returns and insurance payments - the second of which are not mandatory. Thus there is nothing for anybody to expose re: that pay envelope.

Britain is like that you see. A free economy. Happy to help with any information you require about my country - seeing as you know sweet F.A.
OP Bieganski 17 | 901
29 Dec 2017 #125
there is nothing for anybody to expose re: that pay envelope.

Well, let's take look at the comments to this article made earlier today over at the cuckservative Telegraph:

Kate B 29 Dec 2017 6:07AM

Where are deductions ... ? I have never received a pay packet without deductions clearly stated.

Fly Fishing By J R Hartley 29 Dec 2017 5:38AM

How the hell is this news ... ?

telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/12/28/twitter-appeal-reunites-polish-builder-christmas-pay-packet/

So, Dougy Boy, what do you have to say in response to your fellow Brits Kate B and JR Hartley?

Like I said this whole production is just that - a big production; advertisement for the pub and busybody pointing out of a Polish man's earnings sans deductions.

In fact, I have to question now if this story would ever have made it into the British press if the name on the envelope wasn't obviously Polish.

You have failed miserably to detract from the reality of Polonophobia. If anything, you just provided another example of it.
Dougpol1 33 | 3,278
29 Dec 2017 #126
I think you are having an argument with yourself here Bieganski. Most strange. There is no story (apart from decent folk doing the decent thing, and not stealing this man's money).

As for the pay packet, I worked in construction at a time in the past, and I was simply reminding you how subbing works. If you don't want to listen to facts, that's not my problem:)
OP Bieganski 17 | 901
29 Dec 2017 #127
decent folk doing the decent thing, and not stealing this man's money

Decent folk don't go shopping their accounts of doing the decent thing to the press.

The decent thing would have been to discretely return the money to him and turn the press away.

And they wouldn't have had to steal his money anyway. Like I pointed out a pub can easily take in a grand a day. For a pub in London you can double, triple or even quadruple that especially at this time of year.

However, making it a point to feature a pay envelope showing no deductions, tracking down a Polish man named Mariusz (both unnecessary details to the news story itself), and then having him stand there in an arrest pose with £600 in his hand was all just throwing red meat to the Polonophobic Brexiteer base.

Go look up images of this pub. It has fixed flagpoles flying the Union Jack.

Who for? Little Englanders, that's who for. They know they're gonna need them come April 2019.
Dougpol1 33 | 3,278
30 Dec 2017 #129
Go look up images of this pub. It has fixed flagpoles flying the Union Jack.

Don't have to. The Alexander is my old local, in the centre of Wimbledon next to the station. It has Union Jacks to illustrate its' history as mock Victoriana. Excellent Youngs beer, a bit "Jack the lad", but very friendly to all, whatever creed and colour. Just like everywhere in fact. The secret is in the name - "Public House."
ShockedInPoland
30 Dec 2017 #130
However, making it a point to feature a pay envelope

Gibbering idiot.
Crow 137 | 7,756
30 Dec 2017 #131
I won`t be surprised if one day, on the border of British island, appear - Only Muslims Allowed!

That is logical development.

Madness in Britain now applies on everything Slavic. British-Russian crisis now escalate with Russian business people being strangled in Britain, while Russia responding by closing its business centers in Britain, moving hundreds of Russians back in Russia.

Racism unleashed: Incident by incident - the grim litany of post-Brexit hate crime
independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/racism-unleashed-brexit-eu-referendum-post-referendum-racism-true-scale-of-post-eu-referendum-a7149836.html

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Miloslaw 6 | 2,585
16 Mar 2018 #132
This is B******s of the highest order.
There is very little racism in The UK compared to other European countries,perhaps with the exceptions of Scandinavia and The Netherlands.But racism is on the increase there too.

Of the racism that exists in The UK,very little is aimed at Poles and what there exists tends to be away from metropolitan areas.

In general,British people have a very positive view of Poles.In fact I would go as far as to say they are respected.
The main critics of young Poles in The UK in my experience comes from the older generation of Poles that came here after the war!
dolnoslask 5 | 2,560
16 Mar 2018 #133
comes from the older generation of Poles that came here after the war!

Yep
Crow 137 | 7,756
17 Mar 2018 #134
If I understand you correctly, the older generation of Poles that came on island after the war and was assimilated, now rising their voice against Poles that aren`t assimilated. Is that it? Does this also mean that those assimilated Poles stays behind attack on newly arrived Poles? Are they that much ashamed of its Slaveno-Polish origin?

What a tragedy.
ShockedInPoland
17 Mar 2018 #135
Yep

Speak for yourself.

Not true for me or or any other post war Pole's I know.
Crow 137 | 7,756
17 Mar 2018 #136
If you ask me people, that island is crazy. Sodoma and Gomora. Sinner after sinner. It`s not bad idea to turn that island in western most Russian gubernia for some time. It would come like purification.
dolnoslask 5 | 2,560
17 Mar 2018 #137
Not true for me or or any other post war Pole's I know.

Yep harry because you were never a post war pole that had grown up in the post war Polish community in Great Britain.

And then experienced a rapid influx of young post communist Poles arriving in the country/community , Issues between post war arrivals and new wave are as folllows:-

1. The use of the K word in every sentence and in public.

2. Any Kind of drinking or open drunkenness in the street.

3. any kind of lewd behaviour in public.

4. Not standing up of talking when either the British or Polish national anthems are played at the Polish club.

5. Any kind of anti Church or over liberal talk at the Polish club'

6. Any open homosexuality.

7 Drunk driving or any involvement in crime that shames the community in the press.

probably not an extensive list by all means, and over the years the old school have got more used to the new wave the Polish churches are fuller than they have been in many years plus many more Polish skleps are open, so not all bad, but yes there was and is friction at times.
mafketis 21 | 7,483
17 Mar 2018 #138
, Issues between post war arrivals and new wave are

The standard issues you'd expect between an established population that took pains to assimilate (at personal and psychological cost) and those who evince no particular respect for the local culture or desire to assimilate...

The thing is I'd expect the new arrivals to be more upset about 6. than those who've adopted British norms (unless you're talking about young gay people leaving Poland for more tolerant pastures).

Steve Sailer notes similar division between pre WWII Armenians (names ending in -ian) in California who tend to be respectable and law abiding and post USSR Armenians (names ending in -yan) who have a much higher percentage of grifters and thugs.
dolnoslask 5 | 2,560
17 Mar 2018 #139
you're talking about young gay people leaving Poland for more tolerant pastures

Yes the old school is very intolerant, not so much those born in Britain but the older generation that first arrived.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,671
17 Mar 2018 #140
well surely most of them have passed on...?
dolnoslask 5 | 2,560
17 Mar 2018 #141
You would be amazed how long the old country folk live on in the UK with all the modern care and drugs gran lived to 99, mom is in her 80's same for most of the oldies In the family and community.
Dougpol1 33 | 3,278
17 Mar 2018 #142
probably not an extensive list by all means

The older community are jealous and afraid of the newer arrivals, and are happy to exploit them in any way they can, or at least be, if not unpleasant, suspicious of motives.

I remember the way my wife was treated by Poles in Nottingham back in the 80s, and it definitely wasn't with open arms. Obviously they thought she must have been there on government work, even when it was clear she was the missus.

That paranoia and general lack of empathy for other Poles remains true today IMO.
dolnoslask 5 | 2,560
17 Mar 2018 #143
have been there on government work, even when it was clear she was the missus

Yep understandable, the majority of us could not get visas to go to Poland and family in Poland could not get visas to travel to the UK, If people did they were seen as suspicious or considered potential members of the PRL party or in fact spies.

The older community are jealous and afraid of the newer arrivals, and are happy to exploit them

Not sure about that maybe the get something painted on the cheap or a bit of gardening, for sure there was a period when the elders would tut tut them and tell em off for what they considered to be poor behaviour, but its calming down they bring good kasa to the club bar and church is full, so Happy Priest and happy club chairman all have new mercs....
delphiandomine 83 | 17,771
17 Mar 2018 #144
the majority of us could not get visas to go to Poland

Dunno where you've been reading that, but the PRL government made it pretty easy for most people with a connection to Poland to visit. They were a valuable source of hard currency, especially with mandatory exchange of currency and hotels / other services priced in hard currency. Pilgrimages in escorted groups were pretty popular, especially among the US Polonia, and the authorities loved them because they were herded from place to place while paying over the top.

The majority could easily get visas after Stalinism ended, and the authorities didn't hassle ordinary tourists. The real problem for tourists was the abysmal quality of tourism services, not tourism itself.
dolnoslask 5 | 2,560
18 Mar 2018 #145
Dunno where you've been reading that, but the PRL government made it pretty easy for most people with a connection to Poland to visit.

Shows how little you know about us Poles exiled in the UK.

the authorities didn't hassle ordinary tourists.

That you got right., but Poles who recognised and supported the free Polish government in London had no chance.

Throughout the PRL era there were paid Polish agents who would spy on the activities of the Polish community, they would keep records of Individuals.

Luckily there was a mechanism to communicate between the British Intelligence agencies and the individual Polish clubs ,centres and the government in exile, In most cases these Individuals had to be left in place in case they led the British to the bigger fish, (Handlers), sadly most families ended up with black records back in PRL so no visa for us.
Crow 137 | 7,756
18 Mar 2018 #146
Shows how little you know about us Poles exiled in the UK.

Moj dobri i plemeniti brate, please tell me one thing.

What should be best possible way for Poland and for Serbia to attract as much as possible Poles and generally Slavs who now live in Britain? Is there any recipe, thing what can be done so that you come back to us, on behalf all of us?
dolnoslask 5 | 2,560
18 Mar 2018 #147
Serbia to attract as much as possible Poles and generally Slavs who now live in Britain?

Wait for brexit and for comrade Corbyn to be prime minister, capital flight, job losses and increase in crime and disorder will shortly follow.

Business and people will look for safe places to live and setup factories in Europe, Poland is well placed to receive investment and more of the right people. There are good incentives for new business startups, I also know many like me are looking to leave Britain and enjoy a peaceful retirement in Poland, happy days.
Dougpol1 33 | 3,278
18 Mar 2018 #148
Too cold and depressing for me Dolno - going in the other direction:)
dolnoslask 5 | 2,560
18 Mar 2018 #149
Get a place to escape to in Tenerife of the canary islands for the winter months lowest is 17c, we could be neighbours.
spiritus 68 | 664
23 Mar 2018 #150
The older community are jealous and afraid of the newer arrivals, and are happy to exploit them in any way they can, or at least be, if not unpleasant, suspicious of motives.

That's complete BS. The older community are in their 70's at least. The younger Poles don't offer any threat to them. In fact, the only time the two generations probably see each other is at church and the local Polskie sklep. Church community halls are now being run by the younger generation as the older Poles no longer have the energy to do it.

It's the younger Poles who have little empathy for their fellow Poles as they share the same workplaces

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