Yawn, terrorism in London is quite common.
Well, from that rather insightful list I find out that the 7/7 bombers killed TWICE as many in ONE BOMB, than all the IRA bombs PUT TOGETHER, in the last 100 YEARS. I think that qualifies them to stand out a bit more. The IRA are now almost finished, but the muslims have just started....who do you prefer? And if you're arguing like that..then it's ok to import violent muslims to Europe, because we already have bombers and madmen here from before...this is a classic insane statement from the left side. What is your political viewpoint by the way? (Just to ask you, since it obviously irritated you that I took for granted that you lean to the left side based on your comments here in this thread).
I should have pointed out that I meant the "difference". I stayed in Durham, and it was a very nice place, just outside of Newcastle. I guess there aren't too many immigrants there? But when I went to Birmingham, I could barely see any ethnic british people. Liverpool was bad, the shops all closed up with those metal fences, and Manchester wasn't much better. You don't see that here in Norway, or in Poland. England has long built an underclass of whites and they are living in poverty in their own country, thanks to the millions of 3rd world immigrants who come in and receive every benefit under the sun, effectively taking jobs and chances away from the indigenous population. You might have noticed the "race-riots" going on in your country? In Oldham, Bradford, Birmingham and others? What about the EDL, the English Defence League who are stirring up the establishment with their demonstrations against muslim racism every week now? I've even seen non-muslim immigrants from Pakistan among them. Wow, things are progressing....how do you explain that?
They aren't deported because they have legal rights to be here, and have no more obligation to follow the law here than they did back home
Well, it may be alien to the poles in Britain, since they come from a homogenous country, where 96% of the people believe in the same faith. You call all football hooligans stupid, but I can't call all muslims terrorists? Why, I'm just using your argument technique, but as always, you want to control the words and who can say what and where. Typical LEFTIST of you, Matowy! When a big portion of the people act the same way, dress the same way, talk the same way and feel the same way, we're allowed to "profile" them. You do it in all aspects of life! Like "housewives", or "homosexuals", or "football hooligans". Based on their actions and history, you can expect and anticipate certain patterns of behaviours. It's done by marketing companies, the police and many other entities in our socities. Muslims stick out by being involved in things like; "Inter-marrying", "honour-killings", "wife-beatings", "acid-attacks", "welfare-fraud" and other nice things that enriches our european culture.
The Poles were an unnecessary addition to the UK, unlike in the 60's when we needed blacks and Asians to come and stimulate our workforce and economy. The Poles were unnecessary and unwanted, but were allowed in anyway out of sheer kindness. All other EU countries have placed limitations on Eastern European immigration.
Now turn this around and exchange "The Poles" with "The blacks" in the above statement...and post it somewhere public. (Wait for the police to come and arrest you).
This statement has to be the most idiotic statement of the year. Congratulations, Matowy! The poles actually come TO WORK! The blacks and asians have not contributed half of what the poles have, even though they've been in your country for 10 times the amount of time. Now why is that? I hear the same argument here in Norway, "Oh, they come to take the jobs we don't want to do!". Wait a minute, who drove taxi's, buses and trams, who washed our toilets and offices, who worked in our factories and in low-income jobs before they came? Oh, that's right. WE DID! But our treacherour governments simultaneously started importing millions of uneducated, unskilled, unintegrationable folks from half around the globe! Instead of looking eastwards, or even to other countries closer to ours...have you read the statement from the UK government where it's told that it was all a plan to make them stay in power?! It was a deliberate plan to import 3rd worlder, because they overwhelmingly vote centrist/left! Nobody want's to be a taxi driver, because you would be the only ethnic englishman there! The same goes for the other occupations! You want to work where you belong, where you have someone to talk to on your break! Not with 18 muslims, two sikhs, one chinese and you! Of course you're not gonna apply for a job there!
If they do all of that, then why do you label them as "Muslims" and not just as an immigrant group? It's strange to catagorize a criminal generation by a religion, that's like attributing racism of Poles to Catholicism.
Because being muslim is completely different from being Catholic! Islam controls every aspect of your life, from you get up, your 5 prayers a day, what you eat, what your wear, who you wed, where you worship, and WHEN you pray, eat, wed and worship! It is a political evil, disguised as religion. You might argue that for catholicism too, but it's no where NEAR islam. Not by a million years. In catholicism you don't have stoning, acid attacks, burkas, circumcition of young girls, arrainged marriages with underaged girls etc.
There's no evidence for that at all, unless you can find the passages in the Quran that definitely say "Thou shalt cause gang violence, thou shalt scam, though shalt rape, thou shalt do drugs and shoot people". I would try and find you statistics for "Muslim" crime in the UK, but I don't think anyone in my country is stupid enough to embark on such an irrelevant study.
Here's a couple of websites that show what the so called holy book tells your pets what to do;
Oh oh! Here are all your anwers Matowy. Someone ACTUALLY DID THE STUDY!! How stupid are they??!?!
"Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God's religion shall reign supreme." (Surah 8:36-)
"Fight against such as those to whom the Scriptures were given [Jews and Christians]...until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued." (Surah 9:27-)
"Prophet make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home." (Surah 9:73)
"And when the sacred months are passed, kill those who join other gods with God wherever ye shall find them; and seize them, besiege them, and lay wait for them with every kind of ambush: but if they shall convert, and observe prayer, and pay the obligatory alms, then let them go their way, for God is Gracious, Merciful." (Sura 9:5)
"Allah is not bound by any contract or treaty with non-Muslims, nor is His Apostle." (Sura 9:3:)
You obviously feel that the muslims are being "singled out", and for a good reason. They are the least integrated group of people on our continent. Their religion has made sure of that. Only when they rid themselves of it, like we did here with the christianity of the middle ages (where islam belongs), can we possibly see some improvement in their behaviour and contribution to our culture. Until then...they haven't really accomplished anything. The poles that went to the US helped build it to a superpower. Today, the 3rd world people are helping making the US a chinese outpost with no future. England are well on their way after them...as always.
Thanks for the links, they were informative! But if you look at them, 3rd worlders, even as "few" as they still are, are so overrepresented on all these statistics! You would maybe expect a few europeans on that list, considering the short distance and the EU.
I'll give you one last link; be sure to check out the videos a bit down on the site;
faithfreedom.org
Dariusz
p.s. Do you know that playing chess is forbidden in islam? (Sahih Muslim - Book 028, Number 5612: Buraida reported on the authority of his father that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: He who played chess is like one who dyed his hand with the flesh and blood of swine).