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Are Polish people importing a new wave of ancient racism into the UK?


Banglish
24 Jan 2012 #271
Polish people in UK are extremely racist, with primeval views and attitudes towards race and religion.
Frankly, they should go back or reform their mindset. They do not belong here without doing so. I am British of asian descent. The British have tried their very best in addressing their racism, bearing in mind that they ruled the world for 2 centuries. So, a tremendous cacophony of applause to them for all their achievements. This United Kingdom is truly a great nation. We want to keep it that way. I really feel I am part of it. And I am.
RevokeNice 15 | 1,859
25 Jan 2012 #272
I am British of asian descent.

There is nothing as hilarious as an asian immigrant comlaining about european immigrants immigrating to a fellow european country.

I really feel I am part of it. And I am.

lolol
Midas 1 | 571
25 Jan 2012 #273
Last time I checked Asian immigrants in the UK were heavily into race riots ( Bradford ), haven't noticed the Polish doing that.

He's really the last guy who has the right to complain.
annthisorthat - | 1
25 Jan 2012 #274
Anyone understand this thread? Polish people aren't racist. Someone here must be in an unhappy relationship with a brit or a pole...

People don't vent your anger with posts on this forum!
Ant63 13 | 410
25 Jan 2012 #275
They were not race riots, they were black riots.

So you are suggesting the Poles involved were black also.

Check some of the videos and play spot the Pole.

I would suggest that it is not ancient racism but a new brand of sectarianism based on nationality.
isthatu2 4 | 2,702
25 Jan 2012 #276
Look up the name of that "saint".

I never said the man was a "sain"...but, even a "bad" man can say Good things at the right time.

What were they then? A working class uprising, no doubt.

No,it was a breakdown of law and order, the so called "rioters" were looters, people who took advantage of the situation, these people came from all walks of life and came in lots of different shades of (sub)human.

The initial disturbance was regarding a Police shooting where the police fired two shots,killing one man in the back of a Taxi and hitting a Policeman in the chest..........go figure that some shady sh!t happened once again thanks to armed British Policemen playing cover up.......funny, but you would be one person Id expect on here to "be on side" with people protesting against "Brits in Uniform" shooting civilians........

Do you really want loads of clips from manchester and liverpool where not a black face was seen amongst the legions of pasty faced grandkids of Erin that were running loose trashing small businesses?
Sidliste_Chodov 1 | 441
25 Jan 2012 #277
Polish people in UK are extremely racist.

We were here before Bangladeshis or Pakistanis were, believe it or not, so we're going nowhere.

Try stopping some of your own people from distributing anti-British, anti-gay, pro-Sharia leaflets in the East End, before you tar the rest of us with our alleged attitude to race or religion.

British Asians Died defending the streets from rioters and it could be argued that it was a father of one of them who did the most to calm the situation down.

Spot on. While the white chavs were robbing Poundland and Lidl (so classy, lol), Sikhs were defending the whole community. Good on them.
isthatu2 4 | 2,702
25 Jan 2012 #278
Sikhs were defending the whole community. Good on them.

It kinda helps that one of their legaly protected "Ks" is a bloody great big sword though ;)
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
25 Jan 2012 #279
Spot on. While the white chavs were robbing Poundland and Lidl (so classy, lol), Sikhs were defending the whole community. Good on them.

I don't remember where it was, but I saw a clip of a bunch of Asians (not just Sikhs) with weapons, with a "come get some, you bastards" expression on their face. Always did wonder if anyone was stupid enough to try...

(robbing Poundland...ffs :/)
isthatu2 4 | 2,702
25 Jan 2012 #280
but I saw a clip of a bunch of Asians (not just Sikhs) with weapons

To be clear,and to show just how British these people are,most of those "weapons" were Cricket bats :)
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
25 Jan 2012 #281
Exactly ;)

I suspect your average redneck Polish racist from the village who moved to the big city wouldn't have a hope in hell of understanding this.
Banglish
25 Jan 2012 #282
Hey folks !!
1) UK is the greatest nation on earth.
2) I AM British. No, I am not English, nor Welsh, nor Scottish, nor Irish, all of whom are distinct from one another because of their ethnicity. I am Banglish. I am of Asian descent, and I too am distinct. People of Asian descent make a different group. Yeah - its hard for some to accept this fact, but just because I do not belong to their ethnicity, does not mean I am not British. I assert, that I AM.

3) I don't care if anyone else says I am not.
4) Broadly, yes - poles are racists, and you know it.
5) Poles have not been in the UK in large numbers until very recently.
6) By and large, and on the whole, the English, in particular, have tried their level best to rid of racist attitudes and they have succeeded to a high degree. Its taken many years, tremendous amount of patience and, and a lot of hard work to get here. They have gone through hell, and TOLERATED THE INTOLERABLE. Absolutely NO OTHER NATION ON EARTH has this capacity and capability. Too many people of other nations, particularly France, Germany and Italy, and a few other EU states, and a few natives of UK, take this as a weakness. Its not. Its unparalleled strength of ginormous proportions that's simply off the charts. I regard this beloved nation of mine to be far greater than even the USA.

7) Poles, in large numbers, have come in, with their primeval attitudes and notions towards race and religion. It is a clear and present threat to so much work that has been done by the English, and to those of so many other races who have settled here. What has taken many, many years of work to do, is in serious danger of being undone by this sudden influx of poles with such prejudiced attitudes.

8) I too, had prejudices, passed onto me from previous generations with experience of the imperial past. But in this changing, contemporary world, my positive experiences of the British people have been an education for me throughout my life, which I happily convey to others. I give a lot of credit to the patience, endurance, and tolerance of the English. It really is possible to achieve the impossible here in UK.

9) So poles, who have come to UK, please don't ruin it. By default I have a positive attitude towards other races, and its only right that I should expect the same from others. Poles, however, in general, seem to feel too uneasy with people of Asian descent. They are probably harking back negative images of Asia in their minds, and identifying them with people of Asian descent in UK. They don't seem to realise that great many of us people of Asian descent in UK are just that, and not actually any longer Asians, since we have little connection there (Pakistanis excluded).

10) Those few natives of UK, who consider me an Asian invader, and not British - well all I can tell you is this - perhaps you can find comfort in Poland. After all, the frontiers are now open if Catholicism is your thing, but if you are a protestant, don't expect an easy ride.
ReservoirDog - | 132
25 Jan 2012 #283
After all, the frontiers are now open if Catholicism is your thing, but if you are a protestant, don't expect an easy ride.

You have no knowledge about Poland and Poles and your comment is racist :P. Adam Małysz is protestant and we love him.
Sidliste_Chodov 1 | 441
25 Jan 2012 #284
5) Poles have not been in the UK in large numbers until very recently.

There were around 250000 of us before 2004. That's quite a big "minority".

) So poles, who have come to UK, please don't ruin it. By default I have a positive attitude towards other races, and its only right that I should expect the same from others. Poles, however, in general, seem to feel too uneasy with people of Asian descent.

If you had read this forum properly before trolling, you would think that Polish women only date blacks or Asians. So which is it - racists, or race mixers? You can't be both.

10) Those few natives of UK, who consider me an Asian invader, and not British - well all I can tell you is this - perhaps you can find comfort in Poland. After all, the frontiers are now open if Catholicism is your thing, but if you are a protestant, don't expect an easy ride.

Rubbish. Poland has a long history of non-Catholic Christianity, and these denominations are able to practice their religions without persecution. How's the synagogue-building programme in Mecca going, by the way?
Banglish
26 Jan 2012 #285
Well - you need to ask the Meccans. I think it would probably be on par with mosque building in Poland.

In the UK, however, there are plenty of places of worship, for every religion on earth. Everyone feels at home. So, please don't ruin it. After all, people come to the UK because it is tremendously great. That includes the Poles who have come here.

UK is a greater country than every immigrant left behind - after all, that's why they are here. It is able to withstand what no other nation can withstand. It is tremendously strong, and an icon for every other nation and race in the world. UK surpasses USA by far in greatness. Through its unparalleled effort ever mounted in history, it is showing the rest of the world how to live in harmony, through example, and not just through idle talk. And UK has succeeded. There is no doubt about it.

There is no great rush for people to go to Poland. I am not against Poles being in Poland entrenched with their views of the world. I am, however against those Poles who choose to come to UK with racist views and notions, that upsets the balance in UK that has taken years to achieve. Over time, they will need to broaden their views. They will need it to get along with everyone else here. I am doing my bit to positively influence my flock, and it would be nice if Poles in UK did their bit as well.

It is a matter of great pride that within the borders of this one great nation, so many peoples of so many creed, colour, race, beliefs, non-beliefs, and what else not, can live together, where everyone is even protected by the laws of the land. Contemporary UK stands tall in the books of history, as I don't think any nation has ever achieved this height before.
Zman
26 Jan 2012 #286
So much drama Banglish. Poles in their thousands or millions will gracefully merge into UK streamline in 10 to 20 years or so, as they have in so many countries before including (much hated, at times) Germany. They will all speak their Brit accents, which will be local to where they now or in the future live. They will be indiscernible mostly from the common folk there, except for occasional feast of golonka, kiełbasa and pierogi. Can your nation achieve that ever?
RevokeNice 15 | 1,859
26 Jan 2012 #287
It is able to withstand what no other nation can withstand. It is tremendously strong, and an icon for every other nation and race in the world

Hahahaha.

What bollix.

I AM British.

A piece of paper or a wee passport does not make one British/Polish/Irish/Whatever. You are not indigenous to europe. Ergo, you cannot claim to be part of any european nationality.

I take it you are from Bangladesh( what a beacon of humanity lol). If I move to Bangladesh, have a child with me Irish partner, can that child claim to be Bangladeshi and claim it as his or her own nation?

Of course not. The people would consider it a european child and probably treat it with disdain.
ShAlEyNsTfOh 4 | 161
26 Jan 2012 #288
If I move to Bangladesh, have a child with me Irish partner, can that child claim to be Bangladeshi and claim it as his or her own nation?

most probably, they would instantly kill you in doing so.

Whites are not welcome in muslim-majority asian/middle eastern countries - they threaten us to the bone.

Yet we welcome them with open arms into our own countries.

Pathetic, are we?
Banglish
26 Jan 2012 #289
They will all speak their Brit accents, which will be local to where they now or in the future live. They will be indiscernible mostly from the common folk there, except for occasional feast of golonka, kiełbasa and pierogi. Can your nation achieve that ever?

Zman - That is precisely the point I am making. You folks are of European descent and appearance-wise pretty much the same, so it is much easier for you to integrate, if you want to try. Its far more difficult for a person who comes from Asia, Africa, China, and where ever. Despite this fact, the English have put up with us, knowing full well that even if we intergrate perfectly, our appearance will always make us different. They have taken the difficult path, which other nations are not willing to take. Its taken years, and yes - great many of us have integrated - and yes - I have perfect English accent, and so do my children. This is my nation now. I left my country of origin precisely because it isn't what UK is. No, my country of origin cannot achieve what UK has achieved. Neither can Poland.

A piece of paper or a wee passport does not make one British/Polish/Irish/Whatever. You are not indigenous to europe. Ergo, you cannot claim to be part of any european nationality.

RevokeNice - That is your claim. You are probably an unreformed Pole. The British, as a nation, think otherwise. They say I am British, I say I am British, and so I am British. No doubt, enlightened poles in UK will have a different view from you. I have no qualms with Poles with a positive attitude. I can't ever imagine Poland as a nation doing that. That's why I am in UK, not Poland.

Being a person of European descent does not make all Europeans the same. There are differences that make each European nation distinct and very different from one another. Differences that caused WWI and WWII. So, while a Pole can get away looking pretty much the same as an Englishman (though even there, there are differences), Polish attitudes towards race and religion are a dead giveaway - much like our skin colour. One can be ethnically European, but It takes more than descent to be British. Its attitudes and outlook that counts, and one does not have to be ethnically European to be British, as the British nation have clearly demonstrated, a feat not achievable by Poland, or my country of origin. So, please follow their good example. I can be brown, and still be British. Yes - Yes I can. Wow.

A piece of paper, or more precisely, the EU Treaty, is what allowed so many Poles to come to UK and made all the difference in their lives. Yes - it is a piece of paper that says I am British. Pieces of paper can and do make all the difference in the world. UK is great. We all need a positive attitude towards one another here in UK.

RevokeNice - I am talking about having positive attitudes, that simply don't exist in our countries of origin. That includes Poland, Bangladesh and where ever. You are right - muslim people don't even treat one another right, let alone people of other races and religion and countries. And not all Europeans and christians of various denominations can stand one another either, let alone people from other continents.

But here in UK, everybody is treated well. This does not make UK pathetic. This is what makes UK great, and a shining example to all other nations about how mankind should live. It is setting an example for all other nations to see and wonder with awe.

I am not concerned about how things are not so good in the countries where we all come from. We all know that, which is why we left them in the first place. I am concerned about preserving what has been achieved in UK, and making it better for all.

Those few natives of UK who think this is all a mistake - you should think and reflect on what this nation is actually trying to achieve. It is actually trying to change mankind itself. Its a feat that no other nation is willing to try. It is a great nation that is at the forefront of civilization and all other nations. You should think, and reflect, and be proud, and come out of your shell and the little Englander attitude. UK is great.
GabiDaHun 2 | 152
26 Jan 2012 #290
You folks are of European descent and appearance-wise pretty much the same, so it is much easier for you to integrate,

GWAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH!

"They all looks the same!" Not a racist comment at all!

Yeah right.

The Spanish look *just* like Russians. The Norwegians look *just* like the Greeks too.

You probably think that Chinese, Japanese and Koreans all look the same too.

All this does is show a lack of integration on your part. No one else's.

I love the way you bleat about racism, but then simultaneously tar an entire nation as racist, based on a number of people you can count on your fingers and toes, and without ever having stepped foot into the country!

You sir, are having a giggle.

Racism exists no matter which country you go to. I went to Sri Lanka two years ago, got charged 10 times more than the locals, and was subjected to scam artists approaching me every hour.

I am not, however, going to tar all Sri-Lankans with the same bush. If anything, It made me wiser, and less gullible.

Oh! And I got stared at too! Doesn't mean they were racist. Just means they don't see many white people. Human instinct is to stare at something new. I think I'll forgive them for being human.

Oh, and Sri-Lankans don't look the same as Bangladeshis, just in case you were wondering!

LOL at you.
RevokeNice 15 | 1,859
26 Jan 2012 #291
I left my country of origin

I say I am British, and so I am British.

Let me get this straight; you were born in Bangladesh, have no european blood, yet claim a european ethnicity?

Ive spent a minimum of two weeks in Spain, every year since I was born.

Id say two years of my life have been spent on Spanish soil.

Just over a year on American.

Two years in Northern Ireland.

Using your logic, I can claim to be Irish- Ulster Scots-Spanish American!

Sweet!
Ant63 13 | 410
26 Jan 2012 #292
If I move to Bangladesh, have a child with me Irish partner, can that child claim to be Bangladeshi and claim it as his or her own nation?

It depends totally on the laws governing that country. I believe if you are born of French parents you can be nothing but French in French law, no matter where you are born. I may be incorrect, but in Poland, if they want you, you will be Polish even if you are French.

He is British, and no, the Poles will not just blend in, for a high percentage make no effort to expand their horizons beyond a Passat or an A4 and renting a room.

The question should be, who will be "British" when the next war starts?

Exodus.
RevokeNice 15 | 1,859
30 Jan 2012 #293
He is British

Bangladeshi

I left my country of origin

polishmuskateer - | 1
4 Feb 2012 #294
Uh... HUGE difference here that everyone is failing to take into consideration... Poland has been under communist rule for 50 years, which means that few people going into the country and even less leaving it. So Poland is filled with Polish people who are white. Poland is not an immigrant nation like the U.S., England, Canada or any other western European nation. When Poles leave Poland, it is culture shock for them. They have never experienced a society where so many different languages are spoken and cultures live together. Give Poles a break for F's sake... They've been oppressed for a long time!! Don't you think such oppression has an effect on the people of that nation?
Ironside 51 | 11,337
4 Feb 2012 #295
. HUGE difference here that everyone is failing to take into consideration...

There is no racism in Britain right? :D
JonnyM 11 | 2,620
4 Feb 2012 #296
Less so than in most European countries with mass immigration.
modafinil - | 418
4 Feb 2012 #297
What I find odd is the new form of racism Poles have caused. UKIP have a following they would never have and even the BNP have said they want Poles gone as a vote gainer.
JonnyM 11 | 2,620
4 Feb 2012 #298
racism Poles have caused.

The Poles in the UK haven't caused it - but the type of bigot who might vote for BNP etc will seize on anything to justify their inadequacies.
Pierdolski - | 31
4 Feb 2012 #299
Poles are very racist, period.

Those two points are observations, not racism.
modafinil - | 418
5 Feb 2012 #300
Maybe he said 'lots of P'lacks here' and you misheard him.

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