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Marrying Polish Woman in UK/London


Torq
28 Feb 2010 #31
I am shocked & totally speechless

Well, you honestly described a personal problem on an internet forum and asked
its members for advice, right?

That's what you get for believing in people's culture, good-manners and kindness!
Serves you well and let that teach you a valuable lesson for the future! ;)

Torq I half count and don't want any special priviledges :)

No such thing as half-count, Bev. You ain't no getting in our club - no never! ;)

logo of our Club.

Cool :-)
Amathyst 19 | 2,702
28 Feb 2010 #32
or even British women

Not much chance of that since no British woman in her right mind would marry an Indian guy (unless she's Brit born Indian) - its common knowledge that people like you only do it for the papers.

I guess, I will just take my gf to India

Can you both stay there too?

Amathyst--Don't know what experieces you had to hold so much anger in you, it is a pity, but definitely, I ignored all your posts after your first comment

Im a laid back person, but I dont particularly take to kindly to some Indian asking "what benefits are there to marrying someone with an EU passport" If thats your first thought then you are marrying for the wrong reasons. You have 2 years left on your visa, enjoy your time in London and then leave.

Of course you realise that no poster in this thread is actually Polish living in Poland?

He doesnt intend to live in Poland so its not a concern of yours - he intends to marry a Polish girl, get her to move to London and remain here...Therefore its our problem that another 3rd world immigrant gets to stay here because of another foreigner...
beelzebub - | 444
28 Feb 2010 #33
I don't think the people who died for that logo would appreciate you co-opting it Nika.
Torq
28 Feb 2010 #34
Oh, cheer up for Christ's sake - it was obviously a joke.
Matowy - | 295
28 Feb 2010 #35
Simply ignore Amathyst. It is not worth the time it takes to reply to it.
Nika 2 | 507
28 Feb 2010 #36
Thanks Nika for clarifying!
I am shocked & totally speechless with the negative responses & the hostile stance of some of the members

It was Torq who clarified and I only confirmed.
Well, don't worry incognito, we are very often shocked as well, they tend to be just as offensive towards Poles. But we do not remain speechless - we fight back, hence our PW Club :)

Torq I half count and don't want any special priviledges :)

Bev you count for 1 entire Polish living in Poland, doesn't she Torq?

I don't think the people who died for that logo would appreciate you co-opting it Nika.

no comments....
beelzebub - | 444
28 Feb 2010 #37
Why? Because she doesn't like immigrants abusing their welcome? I bet a lot more people than you realize feel the same way. Immigrants that come and blend in are welcome...heck my home country is MADE of immigrants....immigrants who come to take and establish their own little nations within a nation as the mulsims by in large have done in the UK do not earn the respect of the natives. It might not be PC but it is legitimate.

People from third world countries have no interest usually in "becoming British"...they want all the benefits but to also impose THEIR culture on their host's. When you are a guest in someone else's home do you demand they change to accommodate you? If so I am glad you never visit my house.
stevepl 2 | 49
28 Feb 2010 #38
Poles living in Poland on PF!

Do you have to be born Polish or will 'naturalised' count for entry to the club?
Torq
28 Feb 2010 #39
Bev you count for 1 entire Polish living in Poland, doesn't she Torq?

But she doesn't want any privileges! That's undermining the entire policy of our
organization - we want ALL the priviliges we can get! ;)

All right, all right - of course she counts.

Do you have to be born Polish or will 'naturalised' count for entry to the club?

You have to feel Polish and love the country - that's all I ask for, Steve.
Harry
28 Feb 2010 #40
No no, he'll be able to live anywhere he wants in the EU - there's a right for family members to live with an EU citizen anywhere in the EU. This is what the recent fuss about the Somali woman who won in the ECJ is all about

I guess you missed the bit about her living in Poland. He'll only be able to live in the same country as her.
Exiled 2 | 425
28 Feb 2010 #41
no British woman in her right mind would marry an Indian guy

Are polish women in their right minds?Poor Poland.Always gets the sh1t.
Mister H 11 | 761
28 Feb 2010 #42
& she could move here, but she freaks out at the mention of living in London, cos she thinks only 'blue collar polish workers' move to London.

You came back to check the responses, so I misjudged you on that one and I apologise.

As for you "marrying for a passport", well I guess the jury is still out on that one. As someone else said, if you're not marrying for a passport then why not either reside in Poland or India after you get married ?
Exiled 2 | 425
28 Feb 2010 #43
Where did you find these Indians?Average IQ 80.You will dumben as a nation.And with Africans we will have afropolak jokes.
It is serious situation.You fell in the western cesspool.
Matowy - | 295
28 Feb 2010 #44
People from third world countries have no interest usually in "becoming British"...they want all the benefits but to also impose THEIR culture on their host's.

I agree with you completely, really I do, but whereas you and I have apparently formed a seemingly reasonable and moderate opinion, something like Amethyst degrades itself and others by CONSTANTLY spouting racist, bigoted, stupid, unintelligible **** in almost every thread she posts in. I see no reason why it should be here, as all it seems to do is defile every thread possible, with constructive or intelligent input ranging in the minimal-zero range.

The fact that this is the users first post, and that he was asking for marital advice, regardless of the speculated reasons, his nationality, or his host country, makes it all the more vile that the first post was that. It even explicitly said that it only read the first 4 words before resorting to racist insults. If those are the standards of respect, intelligence and morality you wish to defend, be my guest. Hiding behind the "I'm just a righteous warrior fighting the fascist PC culture!!!!!" shield does nothing to change the reality.
beelzebub - | 444
28 Feb 2010 #45
Well I agree with her...she is just a little harsh for what is considered PC today but her points are valid.

I would say the people being PC are the one's hiding behind something. She is just saying what is considered 'unacceptable' by such people.

Think how much easier life would be if people were honest instead of saying one thing in public and then another in private?

Someone else mentioned if the OP was legitimate why don't they live in one of the countries they are from? He is clearly benefiting from the marriage as it will give him residence rights he can't get otherwise so easily or at all.
BevK 11 | 248
28 Feb 2010 #46
Actually no,some people genuinely aren't bigoted. Not even towards the stupid, crass and bucolic. REGARDLESS of where they are from and yes he will get hassle here for his skin colour.

Torq, you're right, forgive me, I should be demanding all priviledges and then complaining about them. :)
Nika 2 | 507
28 Feb 2010 #47
Someone else mentioned if the OP was legitimate why don't they live in one of the countries they are from?

Maybe because it would be difficult for the guy to learn Polish and get a job in Poland? The same goes for the girl and learning Hindi and getting a job in India?

Haha Bev, there you go - welcome in the Club!
beelzebub - | 444
28 Feb 2010 #48
You say that until you truly experience some of the problems. It is so easy to "say" you are unprejudiced but EVERYONE is in regard to something.

You are not "better" than people who have reservations with certain cultures. In fact if YOU were to go live in those places you would find that just as many people would be prejudiced against YOU.

It reminds me of this lady who was one of those loud mouthed anti war protester hippie chicks that got kidnapped in Afghanistan while "volunteering". Quite often life is not as clean as self righteous people like yourself would like it to be.
Exiled 2 | 425
28 Feb 2010 #49
Ha ha,I read what polish girls write about Arabs,pakis etc and I am bluffed by their stupidity.They believe all the fairy tales and when I say all I mean all.Even the dumbest Greek woman wouldn't be so old-fashioned to believe this crap.

I think polish women need to come to Balkans for a cultural awakening.We will open their eyes WIIIDE.
RevokeNice 15 | 1,859
28 Feb 2010 #50
Actually no,some people genuinely aren't bigoted. Not even towards the stupid, crass and bucolic. REGARDLESS of where they are from and yes he will get hassle here for his skin colour.

The Poles and other eastern european women are well known for marrying non EU men for money. Under EU law, the "happy couple" are allowed work and live in 25 EU member states. In my country, it was widely debated last month.
beelzebub - | 444
28 Feb 2010 #51
I lived in Poland for over 10 years and one of the common social discussions I heard was about Polish girls marrying people from the middle east and then after going there realizing it wasn't a fairy tale. Then they had the battle of getting their kids back.

This isn't happening with Finns or Ecuadorians or any other number of nations...but it is COMMON with middle eastern nations. So tell me I am a bigot for acknowledging the realities of the world and I will tell you that you are naive.

Notice I didn't say ALL middle eastern people suck...I said it is a TREND that is common there. Some people seem to be unable to admit the world is not rainbows and puppy dogs. That is not the fault of those who comment on it but rather the fault of those doing the bad things. Take your self righteous judgments and shove them up your arse.
RevokeNice 15 | 1,859
28 Feb 2010 #52
Maybe because it would be difficult for the guy to learn Polish and get a job in Poland? The same goes for the girl and learning Hindi and getting a job in India?

Our countries are full. Bring your third worlders to your own countries.
Nika 2 | 507
28 Feb 2010 #53
I lived in Poland for over 10 years and one of the common social discussions I heard was about Polish girls marrying people from the middle east and then after going there realizing it wasn't a fairy tale. Then they had the battle of getting their kids back.

What are you talking about?????? I have been living in PL for 30 years and I have never heard such conversations.
Amathyst 19 | 2,702
28 Feb 2010 #54
I guess you missed the bit about her living in Poland. He'll only be able to live in the same country as her.

You must have missed the bit where he has stated he wants her to move to the UK. The fact she has a decent job in a bank, he is totally ignorning - his intentions are selfish and is main reasons for marrying this girl are so he can stay in the UK..He only has 2 years left on his visa, so his intentions are to secure a foothold in this country.

He is clearly benefiting from the marriage as it will give him residence rights he can't get otherwise so easily or at all.

Bingo, hence his comments about "what benefits will marriage bring me" call me old fashioned but the first benefit that comes to mind for me is spending the rest of my life with one person, not will I get residency in another country! Im not going to be flowery about this subject, its a problem in the UK sham marriages are rife and the numbe of poor girls being taken in by these people is shocking.

something like Amethyst degrades itself and others by CONSTANTLY spouting racist, bigoted, stupid, unintelligible **** in almost every thread she posts in. I see no reason why it should be here, as all it seems to do is defile every thread possible, with constructive or intelligent input ranging in the minimal-zero range.

Yawn! It (Im a she by the way) has been here for nearly 4 years....If you dont like my posts, dont read them, its really that simple.
beelzebub - | 444
28 Feb 2010 #55
Maybe because it would be difficult for the guy to learn Polish and get a job in Poland? The same goes for the girl and learning Hindi and getting a job in India?

Oh why didn't I think of that? The UK should just let them stay because it's "easier" for them.

Hey it would be 'easier' for me to live in a villa on the Mediterranean. Someone should start an advocacy group and protest for me so I can have what I want. Right?
Nika 2 | 507
28 Feb 2010 #56
Oh why didn't I think of that? The UK should just let them stay because it's "easier" for them.

I didn't say the UK should let anybody do anything. Go back to your post, re-read it - I only answered to your question. I was only thinking of possible reasons why they would rather go to the UK, than to PL or India.

Anyway, the UK has nothing to let or not to let. If they want to, they will live there, if not they will go somewhere else.
Matowy - | 295
28 Feb 2010 #57
Think how much easier life would be if people were honest instead of saying one thing in public and then another in private?

Completely irrelevant. Again, we have more hiding behind the "anti-PC" movement. There is no shortage of people who will say what they like on the internet, and I guarantee you that Amethyst doesn't even say a fraction of the things in real life what she does here. She is simply another coward hiding behind the anonymity of the internet to vent her ridiculous opinions. She is using THIS board as a personal stress-reliever for her disgusting nature, and some members, I included, do not appreciate this.

And for the love of god, political correctness has nothing to do with this. Stop using this excuse.

Perhaps you haven't been around long enough to know what she is like, so take a few minutes and go through her post history. Tip: Her alternate account is "ShelleyS".

Someone else mentioned if the OP was legitimate why don't they live in one of the countries they are from? He is clearly benefiting from the marriage as it will give him residence rights he can't get otherwise so easily or at all.

Irrelevant. Abusive remarks were posted first in a thread where someone was asking for advice.

It even explicitly said that it only read the first 4 words before resorting to racist insults.

Some users managed to point this out without being racist, abusive, or stupid. I emphasize, if you have an opinion that you believe to be "anti-PC", then you are perfectly welcome to verbalize it if you are intelligent and keep to the laws of human decency and respect. Compare these two:

"In my opinion, immigration in the UK has gotten to the point where we can no longer sustain such immigration from third world countries and people from various cultures and religions that refuse to integrate into our society. Among these groups are South Asians, Poles, and Africans."

and
"GET THE F*UCKING ******* AND POLLACKS AND FU*KING PAKIS OUT OF ENGLAND FUK ALL U FOREIGNNERS DUMB SHITS GET THE FUĆK OUT OF MY COUNTRY" (which is in accordance with Amethyst's behaviour in many threads)

Both are "non-PC", but one is intelligent and acceptable, while the other is just downright moronic, and pointing out how moronic and racist someone is is not an attempt to enforce PC laws, so seriously, enough with this ridiculous wave of "anti-PC" chivalry. It's not convincing anyone.
beelzebub - | 444
28 Feb 2010 #58
Anyway, the UK has nothing to let or not to let.

Actually they do...the non EU person would gain residency rights allowing him to live with his EU wife in the UK. He is required to register and be legal there.

And Matowy....You do know you can't just say "irrelevant" and make it so right?

I happen to think most of the "OMG that's racist" whining is not "relevant" to anything but the self righteous naivete of the poster.

Guess what...people are different...races and sexes and classes are different. You can moan about it all you want but there are and always will be differences and many are not good to others in other categories. Deal with it...or keep moaning and protesting.
OP incognito007 1 | 11
28 Feb 2010 #59
Mister H,
yes, it is one option we are looking at, definitely. But the options(career wise) for her are very limited for her.
And while it may appear too early for me to assume that it would be easier for me to adjust in Europe, I am positive that over a period of time it wouldn't be for her to continue to live in India.

I am a little disturbed that almost all the responses here are with a preconceived notion, 'he is doing it for the passport'!
why not just 'he is marrying a polish girl' end of topic.

It is very difficult for me to understand all the negativity here, and someone rightly said here that I posted a personal 'problem' & ended up learning a 'valuable'(?) lesson!

Mister H,--having 2 years on my visa, stay here & enjoy, don't know what you are trying to say. I have 'enjoyed' working in India, in UK, in US, in Singapore, in Shanghai (do a google you will know where it is & look at some pics of the lovely city) & in Brazil.

Thanks Matowy,in your lerned,subtle & very dignified responses you have put your point across.Appreciate it.speaks volumes about the person you are.

same applies to you as well Nika.

and to Amathyst---
when you are well educated,dignified,charming, earn a good living & treat a woman right, it doesn't matter, I am sure a lot of women on the forum would agree,

the more you respond with statements like 'people like you' the more it reflects your ignorance.,definitely a lot of misdirected anger here.

I could live in Poland or I could in France or I could in India or in India!!! what's all the fuss about? but, I am defintely impressed the role you have taken as the problem solver of a 'third world immigrant'

I hope the moderators close this topic ASAP,its not leading anywhere.
I think, i have caused a lot of anger among the members by saying 'what are the benefits?' should I say 'privileges'? 'additional perks'?.
Maybe I will post another topic asking info on which offices to contact & how to go about marrying a Polish girl.
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Thanks Matowy,in your lerned,subtle & very dignified responses you have put your point across.Appreciate it.speaks volumes about the person you are.

same applies to you as well Nika.

I meant learned*

I had to post it because I realized the implications! or am I too late? :)
______________________________________-

The forum didn't allow me to post two posts in a row, but I wanted to correct the spelling of 'learned' , there are too many ppl who could have just torn apart my post here, cos of

a typo.
Amathyst 19 | 2,702
28 Feb 2010 #60
Hey it would be 'easier' for me to live in a villa on the Mediterranean. Someone should start an advocacy group and protest for me so I can have what I want. Right?

Make mine a penthouse apartment in Prauge while your at it :D

Im also not sure why Nika thinks it will be so easy for his g/f to get a job in the UK..People are losing their jobs left right and centre at the moment...So leaving a good job in a bank in your home country would be bloody madness!

GET THE F*UCKING ******* AND POLLACKS AND FU*KING PAKIS OUT OF ENGLAND FUK ALL U FOREIGNNERS DUMB SHITS GET THE FUĆK OUT OF MY COUNTRY" (which is in accordance with Amethyst's behaviour in many threads)

Show me where I have said I dont want Poles in the UK?

He is legal in the UK: "I am authoriszd to work here in the UK & legally allowed to work/stay until 2012".

He is on a visa, in 2 years time it will be bye bye London, hello Mubia..if he marries her and moves her to the UK, it ensures he can stay.


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