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Bartolome 2 | 1,085
6 Nov 2007 #181
I didn't. What was that ?

See above.

why employ polish people here?

Why ? Just not to shut the remaining factory and move it to e.g. China or India (or Poland). Here you go.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161
6 Nov 2007 #182
it took him a year and half to get a job

Wow. Now that's something to be proud of !
anuska 1 | 30
6 Nov 2007 #183
yes do they employ english in the factory in poland what do u think???

Wow. Now that's something to be proud of !

well no its something to be pissed off about.....while we couldnt pay bills polish people where out in town getting pissed on the money that we could of spent on basic living and fighting so is that something to be proud of?
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161
6 Nov 2007 #184
yes do they employ english in the factory in poland what do u think???

English may work legally in any other EU country.
osiol 55 | 3,922
6 Nov 2007 #185
If anyone finds it hard to get a job, that is not the end of it.
Do something you don't expect you'd like to do - I did.
Or perhaps find something no-one else is doing that there might be a market for and set up a small business.
Maybe education or training is the answer.
Move to another town, another country - go where the work is.
We all have to make sacrifices in life.
anuska 1 | 30
6 Nov 2007 #186
yes they may ,but we dont want to move
z_darius 14 | 3,968
6 Nov 2007 #188
That may be a touch to harsh.
anuska 1 | 30
6 Nov 2007 #189
well he was looking for any general factory work

and he came across this job he has now and when he started on his induction day
there was four polish people starting too why when the lad next door at 18 years old wants a job.....but while walking to town to the job center he gets comments made towards him like you should be working...
Bartolome 2 | 1,085
6 Nov 2007 #190
yes do they employ english in the factory in poland what do u think???

Just face it - cost of production are lower in Poland. And they don't employ Brits in Poland, because they don't move there.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161
6 Nov 2007 #191
That may be a touch to harsh.

Honestly I don't care. I have enough of these damn tea drinkers. There are no jobs.. There are no jobs... How the hell there can be no jobs with 5% unmeployment rate ?
anuska 1 | 30
6 Nov 2007 #192
Just face it - cost of production are lower in Poland

when did i say it wasnt?? i bet its cheaper in china.....

so my point is why not close the factory here if its that much cheaper to produce things???

why take jobs off able bodied young hard working lads here and give them to middle aged polish people......

why dont we have polish dentists, nurses and doctors what we need?

Honestly I don't care. I have enough of these damn tea drinkers. There are no jobs.. There are no jobs... How the hell there can be no jobs with 5% unmeployment rate ?

when did i say there are no jobs? tell me??

i said its unfair for them to take the jobs and for them to come first over people that born here......
Daisy 3 | 1,225
6 Nov 2007 #193
polish dentists

The dentists at the practice I go to are Polish, except for my dentist, who is Serbian, thankfully he isn't Crow, or I would have false west teeth by now
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161
6 Nov 2007 #194
to come first over people that born here

Excuse me... ?
anuska 1 | 30
6 Nov 2007 #195
well i dont have a polish dentist here or doctor

this is my whole point i dont think people can comment if they havent been in the situation i was in for so long wishing, praying and hoping something would come about for my bf even a bin man job for 16 hours aweek.

whats the future for the kids in school here?

Excuse me... ?

what dont u understand about people coming to england getting jobs over people that where born here
miranda
6 Nov 2007 #196
or I would have false west teeth by now

what's that?
dtaylor 9 | 823
6 Nov 2007 #197
simple question would be, was the uk worse of 6 years ago?

im not against the polish or anyone in the world coming to the uk, let them come. but dont patronise the native people by saying if it wasnt for immigrants in the past 5-6 years we wouldnt have better lives. but with everything, its a 2 headed coin, we can employ cheaper labour( that doesnt mean exploit) but the 16-21 year olds natives will find it alot more difficult for work.
Bartolome 2 | 1,085
6 Nov 2007 #198
i bet its cheaper in china.....

Yeah, it is. That's why most of e.g. your clothes have tags saying 'Made in China/Bangladesh/Morocco (or other Asian/African country)'. I wonder how many of them have 'Made in UK' tag.
Daisy 3 | 1,225
6 Nov 2007 #199
what's that?

Crow talks a lot about the false west
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161
6 Nov 2007 #200
what dont u understand about people coming to england getting jobs over people that where born here

And how are they getting these jobs ? Hello ! Anybody home ? British employers employ them. They even come to Poland and look for workers here. What the hell do you think that this is some conspiracy ? They take Poles because English are not willing or are not skilled enough to do them.
Lukasz 49 | 1,746
6 Nov 2007 #201
Crow talks a lot about the false west

:))))))))))))))))
anuska 1 | 30
6 Nov 2007 #202
and where do u live?

no i dont think its some conspiracy what the hell are you on about?

Yes i know how they get them by being employed by employers but i wanna know why and not every polish person working in the uk knew the job b4 they went into

in the place where my bf works you have to be trained to use the machine hes on and everyother machine in the place incase someone is off......so if they arent skilled in that what then?
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161
6 Nov 2007 #203
but i wanna know why

So go to any factory and ask them why.
miranda
6 Nov 2007 #204
Crow talks a lot about the false west

I have never read his stuff due to short attention span and the amount of reading I have to do on my own every day - I agree though. It am sure the visit would be unforgetable though;)
anuska 1 | 30
6 Nov 2007 #205
so why sit there aruging the toss with me about this topic if when asked a question you really cant answer.
This is what makes me mad and stops me from posting in these forums because i didnt come here for an arugment, but to find out about polish people and i asked my bf not to post what he wanted on here, but bartolome said we should stand by our opinions which is what we are doing but instead i get made to look like a T.W.A.T because i ask a question that someone cant answer?
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161
6 Nov 2007 #206
This is what makes me mad and stops me from posting in these forums

So don't post here.
anuska 1 | 30
6 Nov 2007 #207
is that what your tryin to do stop me from posting my freedom of speech?

U WISH
postie 7 | 112
6 Nov 2007 #208
Low skilled doesn't mean an idiot, and I apologise if I've given you the impression that I thought that

You didn't..... I was being a tad touchy, as some think that low skilled means *************. A lass I work alongside at the Pizza place has a Phd... her husband leaving her, for someone younger, left her no choice but to go on the agency as she'd sacked her career off to bring up the family and had been out of her field for far too long to make it back in easily, even with a Phd. Like many other British workers, she'd rather work at anything than ponce off the State.

Thanks for your reply there Liza.. a lot to think about. It was nice to see a sensible reply, and... yeah... you know what, I might just look into that TEFL thing, the money is pretty decent around here for that... and if I could have chosen any occupation, I'd have loved to have been a teacher. I like meeting foreigners in the UK and teaching them my language or showing that being British isn't about Xenophobia, but about being open and welcoming. So I guess that kind of marries up two things... don't know why i hadn't thought of it before to be honest... *shock*

there was four polish people starting too why when the lad next door at 18 years old wants a job...

I was laid off from a pretty regular agency placement about 4 weeks ago. On the same day a Polish couple got laid off. All of us agency workers. It was hard for them, as they had lost both incomes in one swoop.

For me, yeah, it annoyed me. But I went back to the agency and picked up some other factory work. What REALLY annoyed me, was the English guy who laid me off, after training me up on a very specialised piece of machinery (Engraving signs for high-end electronic components) then employed his 18 year old son to get trained up on what I was doing. He's already working in the factory and is known as an idle bastard... the factory is short of orders. His Dad was looking out for his sons prospects by giving him an opportunity to add an invaluable skill to his bow... and less likely to be laid off if another round of cuts come.

But...to return to your point... the English are happy firing the English.. sod that I have a mortgage and everything, and had never missed a days work (unlike Boy-Wonder) ... so it cuts both ways...

Nice to see you here btw anuska.... I also joined here to learn more about Polish people. Don't take all points made above as being indicative of all Polish..... ;)
Wroclaw 44 | 5,384
6 Nov 2007 #209
His Dad was looking out for his sons prospects by giving him an opportunity to add an invaluable skill to his bow... and less likely to be laid off if another round of cuts come.

This reminds me of a time, twenty years ago, when I sacked the son of one of the directors. I was doing what I was paid to do and management had to back me up.

Oh, how I loved the job of Gaffer.
postie 7 | 112
6 Nov 2007 #210
Oooh... I think that's probably the best reason ever to go into management! LOL

Was he an idle git too?


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