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Puzzler 9 | 1,088
10 Dec 2007 #421
We should boot them out, close our borders and re-establish a fairer Britain for the hard-pressed British now!

- I wouldn't mind all my people to be back in my country, instead of vegetating in yours, where scum like you can abuse them with utter impunity.

Lots of Poles are leaving Britain now. And your government will probably listen to crazies like you and put limits on the number of Poles allowed to work in UK. But instead you'll soon get Chinese and similar folks in their place. Exactly as it happened in Canada in the 90s.

And you won't even squeak against that, stupid creep. You'll be too scared (as you are now) of being put in jail for 'racism.'

:)
Foreigner4 12 | 1,768
10 Dec 2007 #422
instead of blaming all these big financiers and corporations , who obviously generate wealth , & that is the aim of all organisations is it not ?

so if it makes money, then it's just dandy and ducky in your books eh?
well then genius why is it you're so opposed to foreigners trying to make money in britain if you're not opposed to british co's making money in foreign lands?

after all your criteria in the point of an organization doesn't include anything about doing what's "right" and/or "fair." So why is it that you hold immigrants to a higher standard than what you would hold any british corporation?

Moreover, if the point is to make money then surely it is fine to higher the cheapest possible labour, legally or not, because it generates wealth right? because, as you stated, that's the point of business, simply to generate wealth.

I'll reiterate (say again:) my question, why should individuals not have the same freedom to generate personal wealth as your beloved global corps?

- I wouldn't mind all my people to be back in my country, instead of vegetating in yours, where scum like you can abuse them with utter impunity.

I dunno mate read this quote i took from him, does this sound like scum to you?

The only people who benefit from this large-scale economic migration are unscrupulous employers who pay Scrooge wages to workers who are prepared to tolerate poor pay and squalid, overcrowded or unsuitable conditions, so that they can either accrue meagre savings or send sterling abroad to their families.

It sounds like he has a pretty good grasp of the situation to me.

We should boot them out, close our borders and re-establish a fairer Britain for the hard-pressed British now!

And i encourage you to do so, but i also encourage you to advocate that British interests leave voluntarily or are booted out of any and every country where they are exploiting the human and natural resources, as the native taxpayers in those countries will never recoup their losses either.

Now, what the net result of such a deportation would be in Poland, i can only guess, but i sure as hell hope that it would be protests and riots until wages and salaries were more commensurate with corporate profit.

What exists at present is a continual westward migration of poorer workers from anywhere east of what's west. If there is to be a labour shortage in Poland or Russia, i'm placing bets that it will be filled by nonpoles as big co's are always looking to hire the cheapest they can. Even if immigrants were booted out, you'd have to ensure that a mass production flee didn't happen via outsourcing. I really feel that big business objectives have a stranglehold on government and that's the source of much of society's frustration.
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893
10 Dec 2007 #423
A good chunk of the wealth your country generates is got off exploiting resources abroad

What would that be? Im interested to know?

We should boot them out

What about the 1,000s of africans (with aids) and asylum seekers that are bleeding the country and have absolutly nothing in common with us culturally? Im not denying that this isnt a problems with the numbers of people entering the UK from A8 countries, but you seem to forget about the ones who dont really have a right to be here... and tend to take all and give nothing....

What about the Bulgarian that came to the uk and made out he was from montenegro(soz about spelling), and was an asylum seeker said he and his family paid to get in the UK..... and they got payouts of £18,000 in 6 months, not bad aye - he also got 8 months in prison and his family deported......message to all who are thinking about doing that Manchester is not putting up with :)

Now, what the net result of such a deportation would be in Poland, i can only guess, but i sure as hell hope that it would be protests and riots until wages and salaries were more commensurate with corporate profit.

So why doesnt this happen now?
Foreigner4 12 | 1,768
10 Dec 2007 #424
What would that be? Im interested to know?

If you're so interested then do some research.
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893
10 Dec 2007 #425
Why should I bothered, you seem to know more about English history, but I am assuming that you are going back a few years when we had established trading ports around the world - is this what you consider bleeding a country?
Foreigner4 12 | 1,768
10 Dec 2007 #426
Why should I bothered

uhhhhhhh, because you said you were interested? so go on now, look into it.
MrBubbles 10 | 613
10 Dec 2007 #427
polish mafia selling there own people into prostitution , indians selling there children to workhouses , africans ... pakistani,s selling there children ... the africans , brazillian kids ... parents breed like rats ... a bottle of decent vodka , ... cowards , germans well we kicked there ... others who like the uk don,t mind ... nations sell each other down the river .

Ha ha you really are priceless. No really, you are.
Foreigner4 12 | 1,768
10 Dec 2007 #428
she's interested but wants me to do all the leg work- another example of labour exploitation imo:P
The Entreprena
12 Dec 2007 #429
quoting foreigner / read my messages properly you mug , god you lose the plot so quickly , i said that some people come to the uk and straightaway they begin to claim benefits and suck money out of the state , when they should come to the uk earn a living - ie work and yep i have no problem with that at all , but contribute through taxes as we all do and then after 3 - 5 years if youre unfortunate to fall out of work then you have every right to a claim . please read my messages from the beginning before you spout off .

isnt that what happens in un civilised countries people selling themselves for a loaf of bread , mind you aint such a bad thing , some of the european birds are worth a loaf or two lol

If you're so interested then do some research.

because the polish gvt has kept the masses downtrodden while they all become rich off the back of their own countrymen , i lived in szubin for 6 month and in the villages this is more apparent than the glossy cities like warsaw
Foreigner4 12 | 1,768
12 Dec 2007 #430
did it take you long enough? and all you could come up with was that?

It seems that you are just a touch thin skinned and couldn't take any criticism of your stated qualm(s). No worries, despite your potty talk, miserable verbal diarrhoea, mildly amusing (not to mention uninformed) world view and racial stereotyping (lending credence to the arguement that you were [if not are] suffering from lazy thinking), i want to show you that i wasn't and am not entirely against you.

So stop asking and answering your own questions as you've just done and open yourself up to the notion that you really are looking at the situation through a the reactionary lense of child-like observation. In other words, give your head a shake and stop with the temper tantrums.

god you lose the plot so quickly

first of all, don't follow if all you're going to do is complain how lost you are. get with the program or go back to your misdirected whinging.

please read my messages from the beginning before you spout off .

I empathized with you at the outset however you were too busy draggin your knuckles to figure that out. You took the one criticism i made and did more than a little spouting of your own, buddy boy.

I still empathize with your postion, but my criticism of it stands. Now go back and read my reply to your post.

You've got to see the bigger picture on these matters, you can't go trying to wage war (metaphor for any of you dolts ready to jump on that one) against' every individual you see abusing the system. First recognize the system for what it is, and has been, then go after the policy makers(should you get that far in your reasoning). As individuals, we're largely reationary so it' like trying to take care of the coughing instead of the virus.

Now if you'll excuse me, i'm trying to find a good deal on alegro and get a couple pilsners down me (they're ok but they got nothing on english ales).

*edited material added below*

because the polish gvt has kept the masses downtrodden while they all become rich off the back of their own countrymen

hmmm somehow i missed that bit you wrote, unless you just edited that, however i'll lay blame on my own p!$$ poor reading skills and apologize but also note duly, your observation rings true in the UK as well. Polish leaders and big players just seem to be more brazen (read less sophisticated) about their, ummm, oh to heck with euphamisms, criminal exploitation of their own people. And although (i'm sure they would if they could), they can't really compete with the exploiting that b.n. firms do abroad (and at home, may the god & the queen bless migrant workers). That is, the british have become rich off the backs of other peoples' countrymen.
lennyd
12 Dec 2007 #431
anyone watch marcus brigstocke ? what a load of middle class cowardly garbage this man really is
The Entreprena
12 Dec 2007 #432
That is, the british have become rich off the backs of other peoples' countrymen.

what a load of twoddle , if you live & work in this great land and you earn a wage for youre work are you not profiting from youre circumstance ? mm , if you live and work in the uk did you not embark on this course of action as to acquire wealth that you lacked in youre own **** poor country ? mm , if you live and work in the uk did you come on the intention of finding a job as youre **** poor country cannot supply you with one ? mm , and like i said before if you are not happy with the uk laying claim to the rest of the worlds riches well go home easy really ! its called enteprise and global marketing , stocks n shares to which i lay claim to a few , so therefore i can afford through sheer determination to drive my range rover vogue and my girlfriend has a shiny new bmw m3 for xmas and be under no illussion my foreign pal if she was still in poland she would be working in some low paid **** poor job , & because she decided to get off her ass and do something about her situation she is where she is today through her sheer determination to change her future for the better ! she now work in the airline industry as a trainee commercial pilot she has quite away to go but she,s tenacious and very driven as am i and i believe you work hard , you reape the benefits of youre own circumstance , so no more **** poor twoddle please youre boring and obviously a geeko warrior or is it a new age hippie x
Foreigner4 12 | 1,768
12 Dec 2007 #433
what a load of twoddle , if you live & work in this great land and you earn a wage for youre work are you not profiting from youre circumstance ?

not the individual silly, if you really believe that the wealth of the entire british nation is only due to the the work done on the island then you can have all the money you desire, it wouldn't reduce your ignorance by an iota.

Look brother, you may have the trappings of wealth but it's becoming clearer and clearer you lay claim to precious little else.

its called enteprise and global marketing

f she was still in poland she would be working in some low paid **** poor job

^For a british owned corporation no doubt. But hey it's ok to pay people crap wages in the name of global marketing (i think you'll find you should have used a different term to better describe the model you promote but it's easy enough to figure out what you meant).

you reape the benefits of youre own circumstance

well then stop complaining if someone wants to "reape" the beneifits of their circumstance by creating a new circumstance.

This is so fun as you continually use your own logic to make one arguement but then continue on with it only to repeal your original assertions- yet you can't see it, tee hee.

Your story is touching but it lacks objectivity, sounds more like your broad's found herself a sponser, but now i'm using poor analytical skills and judging things on first blush-shame on me.
The Entreprena
13 Dec 2007 #434
Your story is touching but it lacks objectivity, sounds more like your broad's found herself a sponser

No sponsor just a hard working British guy on his way up the ladder , obviously all youre creative chat has got you F/all in the past and it aint getting you very far in youre future , go back to playing the lottery , keep dreaming and wishing for a better life , youre obviously hung up on the uk and its strengths as a global player in the ever increasing wealth dominated markets , what hell hole of a country are you from & i,ll probably be able to understand where youre anger comes from , youre not a country we,ve bombed back to the middle ages are you ? lol are you from a country like serbia where the women are butt ugly lol , or even a muslim state were in the past especially in the uk its against muslim law to gamble , but yet one of the biggest lottery winners i think of 18.4 million was a muslim , lets see did he hand that back - i doubt it , so please mate like i said youre boring i get youre point youre pissed at the uk for being one of the richest countries in the modern world but hey thats life sad act , and me i,m 100% brit and very proud of my countries achievements in the past 200 years and know if it had,nt of been for the scholars in this country the world we all live in today would be a lot bleaker .
Foreigner4 12 | 1,768
13 Dec 2007 #435
where youre anger comes from

yes because it's my long winded posts making sweeping accusations across a range of cultures that comes across as angry (that's an example of sarcasm-basically how people normally speak to you). Good luck with having money as your posts have shown you're unable to comprehend anything beyond that with a price tag. anyway you're last post actually dipped lower on the critical thinking scales than i'd ever thought possible; congratulations, you've dumbfounded me with such stupidity.

i can no longer bestowe upon you any gifts of intellect as it would only further be as pearls before swine.

au revoir mon petit ami disposé
bon chance pierre
baird19
30 Dec 2007 #436
WHY DO PEOPLE THINK THAT FOREIGNERS ARE FLOCKING TO OUR COUNTRY? DISGUISING THEMSELVES IN CARS AND PAYING £10,000 TO BE SMUGGLED INTO THE COUNTRY? IT'S BECAUSE WE'RE A SOFT TOUCH. THEY HAVE A CHOICE OF MANY OTHER EUROPEAN COUNTRIES TO "CLAIM ASYLUM" IN. BUT THEY CHOOSE TO COME TO SOFT BRITAIN WHERE THEY GET PUT BEFORE BRITISH PEOPLE IN THE QUEUE FOR A HOUSE AND GET THE FULL RANGE OF BENEFITS - ON US. IT SHOULD WORRY EVERYONE THAT BRITISH PEOPLE WILL BE THE ETHNIC MINORITY IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY IN JUST THIRTY YEARS' TIME AND WE WILL BE LIVING UNDER MUSLIM SHARIA LAW. IS IT ANY WONDER HOUSES HAVE TO BE BUILT ON NOTORIOUS FLOODPLAINS WHEN ALL THESE FOREIGNERS ARE FLOODING IN? OUR POPULATION IS SET TO DOUBLE BY 2080. I'M VOTING FOR THE BNP.
Seanus 15 | 19,674
30 Dec 2007 #437
Yeah, by 2080, the BNP may have drastically improved their support base, so they get 1/4 of the votes of a major party
scarbyirp
30 Dec 2007 #438
I'M VOTING FOR THE BNP.

Awh no, not another Rangers Fan
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,149
30 Dec 2007 #439
"CLAIM ASYLUM"

MUSLIM SHARIA LAW

And why do you come and write It here ?
Seanus 15 | 19,674
30 Dec 2007 #440
Sharia Law, I don't think so somehow. It's just paranoia and fear.
littlekdpb
30 Dec 2007 #441
Yeah, you can get set up with a house-usually in a deprived and unsafe area- you don't think they'll put manual workers into middle-class residential areas, do you?The wages are no better than minimum wage, but migrants are prepared to do the work and then they discover how much help is available to migrant workers. In my opinion, E. European migrants deserve to get on, because they are prepared to do the naff jobs that the bone idle brits won't touch.Good luck to them, I say. Yes, I am another "scrounging get", because, although I have a degree in drama, I have had to claim disability for the last 6.5 years. The authorities can't find a job for a "spacker" who has had three operations in seven years.
Seanus 15 | 19,674
30 Dec 2007 #442
That's a good point. I see blocks in Poland that look dingy and unsafe but there is relatively little crime there. If I saw the same in Scotland, I'd be looking over my shoulder quite often. Yeah, Poles have a reputation for stealing but that usually takes place at stations and not in large housing complexes. My fellow Scots are quite bad for stealing and fighting so Poles may lose some of the things they worked to get and the police aren't that likely to help them
scarbyirp
30 Dec 2007 #443
IT SHOULD WORRY EVERYONE THAT BRITISH PEOPLE WILL BE THE ETHNIC MINORITY IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY IN JUST THIRTY YEARS' TIME AND WE WILL BE LIVING UNDER MUSLIM SHARIA LAW

Yawn, maybe then you could get your first job . . . cleaning out the toilets in your local mosque, for the minimum wage of course. As you will be an ethnic minority then you will automatically receive more benefits like a free house and lots of presents from the govt. (how ironic, dont you think?)
Polson 5 | 1,768
30 Dec 2007 #444
BRITISH PEOPLE WILL BE THE ETHNIC MINORITY IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY

I doubt it, if they all talk as loud as you, no one would ever wonder you are minority...

;)
Seanus 15 | 19,674
30 Dec 2007 #445
Forget the muslims, let's keep to the Poles. Many are flocking back to Poland now that a new govt is in place. Immigration is heading back towards decent levels. Try extending the thread by asking any members if they are an employer of Polish people and see if they are satisfied with what they do
xena060 - | 2
28 Jan 2008 #446
Salam koshad!
Listen, have u seen british ppl in Poland, what they r doing there on their vacation? They drink more than Polish ppl can even imagine! They are acting like pigs, they **** on da fuckin sidewalks! BTW go back 2 ur country if u dont like the fact that POLISH PPL RULE ENGLAND!

IMPORTANT!!!

Hey Guys!
Does somebody knows the statistics of polish immigration?
I need that for my assignment
szarlotka 8 | 2,208
29 Jan 2008 #448
POLISH PPL RULE ENGLAND!

Nah. England is ruled by the Scots (Gordon is a moron), and the Royal family are German/Greek ancestry.
sapphire 22 | 1,241
29 Jan 2008 #449
BTW go back 2 ur country if u dont like the fact that POLISH PPL RULE ENGLAND!

Nah. England is ruled by the Scots (Gordon is a moron), and the Royal family are German/Greek ancestry

He's right. When did the Poles take over the country? I must have been asleep...and it were true, where would I go, since this is my home?

I'm not even gonna go there with defending my fellow countrymen's right to throw up in the streets of Krakow or wherever.. we Brits have been doing this since time began, so why should we stop now?
tomanyofem - | 6
3 Mar 2008 #450
i dnt knw abwt the polish wrk ethic they have takin over the brothels

u lost to hitler and stalin we beat both of them if poland was a great place u wudnt all be coming here

we like a bit of banter bt to be serious england is a dump it has been for the last 20 years we always hearing abwt murders rapes etc i wil leave this stinkin place soon


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