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Polish eligibility to claim benefits in the UK


Broken 1 | 6
26 Sep 2010 #1
Hi,

I live in London with my polish fiancee, since we met she has never worked or even looked for work though she did go to the effort of getting a national insurance number when she moved here at the beginning of march 2009. This has been extremely hard as London is very expensive, I earn good money but sadly to support 2 has been a major strain on my finances and our relationship.

She ended our relationship last week, so I have had to leave and spend a week away while I work out what to do, I cant afford to rent 2 flats at the same time and support us both again and as there is no hope of her ever wanting me I just cant take looking after her any more not to mention I have been used enough as it is, I really do sound like a whining ***ch, apologies for that I will now get to my point.

She has no one in the UK, no friends as she never leaves the house, no one to turn to for help at all, in my experience during a couple of weeks between contracts this year I discovered I could not get any benefits due to her being my fiancee and she was not eligible for benefit? it was all very confusing and again a massive drain on me financially.

So now she is a single Polish woman living in London (living in the UK since march 2009) with no job, my question is, is she eligible to claim anything at all? I was hoping jsa and housing, I need to know this as I intend to remove myself from our lease next week and also disable her access to my bank accounts, I have no choice I just wanted the info so I could post it to her or something.

Could she get deported?

god what a mess.

PS. Please no derogatory comments on my ex partner or racism re:polish claiming benefits, I happen to love this woman and my experience of the Polish and Poland has only been a pleasure (apart from this relationship)
f stop 25 | 2,513
26 Sep 2010 #2
She ended our relationship last week

Since she ended the relationship, you should not feel bad about cutting her off. If you know her family, I'd call their parents and let them know she will be homeless soon.
Wroclaw 44 | 5,384
26 Sep 2010 #3
read the thread by popcorn and then maybe exchange notes.

edit: i see you've already made a start.
Amathyst 19 | 2,702
26 Sep 2010 #4
Could she get deported?

Since she has never actually exercised her rights to working in the UK, she should be!

So now she is a single Polish woman living in London (living in the UK since march 2009) with no job, my question is, is she eligible to claim anything at all? I was hoping jsa and housing, I need to know this as I intend to remove myself from our lease next week and also disable her access to my bank accounts, I have no choice I just wanted the info so I could post it to her or something.

Possibly none NI based contributary JSA, but if she has never worked and has no intention of working, I doubt they'll give her that as she'll have to prove she has been looking for work and by the sounds of it she has no intention of doing so - as for housing benefits possibly, but again she'd have to make the effort to to the town hall and get the forms, why doesnt the lazy biatch get a job like the rest of us?

She has no one in the UK, no friends as she never leaves the house, no one to turn to for help at all

She sounds fun to be with!

Just one question, why on gods earth did you put up with a sponger for all this time? Also why did you come to a forum when you could have got the information here:

direct.gov.uk/en/MoneyTaxAndBenefits/BenefitsTaxCreditsAndOtherSupport/BeginnersGuideToBenefits/DG_4016266
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
26 Sep 2010 #5
Possibly none NI based contributary JSA, but if she has never worked and has no intention of working, I doubt they give her that - as for housing benefits possibly, but again she'd have to make the effort to to the town hall and get the forms, why doesnt the lazy biatch get a job like the rest of us?

She won't get a thing because she hasn't worked legally for 12 months. It'll either be work or the streets for her - or she can go home.
OP Broken 1 | 6
26 Sep 2010 #6
Just one question, why on gods earth did you put up with a sponger for all this time?

I am a freelance consultant, I work all the time and these months flew past, I am very much in love with her but I am aware how stupid this is, was hoping she would return to being the woman I met that made me ask her to marry me.

Also why did you come to a forum when you could have got the information here....

I have researched these sites, having worked for the government before I know that the systems in place are a complete mess and also those in charge of implementing them are often the least skilled people in the UK workforce and mostly unskilled agency workers themselves so I wanted to hear from people that may have had similar experience.

Thank you for the information.
Amathyst 19 | 2,702
26 Sep 2010 #7
She won't get a thing because she hasn't worked legally for 12 months. It'll either be work or the streets for her - or she can go home.

Oh well, such is life.... :D Maybe he should invest in a bus ticket for her a parting gift.

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delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
26 Sep 2010 #8
Oh well, such is life.... :D Maybe he should invest in a bus ticket for her a parting gift.

Not a bad idea at all ;)

(heck, I'd be paying for a cab to the airport and the plane ticket if I was him...)
OP Broken 1 | 6
26 Sep 2010 #9
She won't get a thing because she hasn't worked legally for 12 months. It'll either be work or the streets for her - or she can go home.

Aha! this is indeed the reason behind why I could not claim during a short dry patch of work earlier this year, I was hoping that with us no longer being together she would become eligible as yes, her options are the streets or to go home.
Amathyst 19 | 2,702
26 Sep 2010 #10
(heck, I'd be paying for a cab to the airport and the plane ticket if I was him...)

You're much kinder than I am, it would be an old oyster card with enough on to get to the bus station and bus ticket back to Poland!

Aha! this is indeed the reason behind why I could not claim during a short dry patch of work earlier this year

I dont get that because as a British person (are you?) and a tax payer you could have claimed JSA in your own right so you were miss informed.

I was hoping that with us no longer being together she would become eligible as yes, her options are the streets or to go home.

If you as a person who has already worked were turned down, what made you think they give her a free ride?

her options are the streets or to go home.

Didnt you forget the work option? You know that strange thing that pays the bills? Just curious but how old is she?
Seanus 15 | 19,706
26 Sep 2010 #11
She will not get JSA as she needs to be actively looking for employment and furnish evidence of that. She is a coaster, one of the escaper brigade. Leave her to her own devices and cut your losses.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
26 Sep 2010 #12
You're much kinder than I am, it would be an old oyster card with enough on to get to the bus station and bus ticket back to Poland!

Isn't the deposit on the Oyster card worth 3 pounds? I'd be inclined to simply pay for the bus fare and no more ;)

(mind you, the bus is probably more expensive than the plane....)
Amathyst 19 | 2,702
26 Sep 2010 #13
Isn't the deposit on the Oyster card worth 3 pounds? I'd be inclined to simply pay for the bus fare and no more ;)

I see you had a re-think and curbed your extravagant ways!

(nah bus is a lot cheaper, by the time he adds tax and luggage to a flights its a joke these days!)
Seanus 15 | 19,706
26 Sep 2010 #14
Let her find her own way or getting benefits whether eligibile or not. Other Poles do.
THE HITMAN - | 236
26 Sep 2010 #15
Please no derogatory comments

Kick her up the backside. I don,t regard this derogotory in the circumstances.... just fact !!
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
26 Sep 2010 #16
(nah bus is a lot cheaper, by the time he adds tax and luggage to a flights its a joke these days!)

Maybe he could go one cheaper and give her a piece of cardboard with "POLAND" written on it? ;)
Amathyst 19 | 2,702
26 Sep 2010 #17
Thats brilliant...In fact Id go as far as to say you're a geninous!!!
espana 17 | 910
26 Sep 2010 #18
she may have more money than you, when you was at work maybe she was prostituting herself, 3 clients a day earning £60, its alot!
OP Broken 1 | 6
26 Sep 2010 #19
I dont get that because as a British person (are you?) and a tax payer you could have claimed JSA in your own right so you were miss informed.

I am indeed British, my dealings with the job centre were confusing beyond belief.

If you as a person who has already worked were turned down, what made you think they give her a free ride?

Just asumed by all the daily mail style hysteria I have heard over the years that it would be easier for her.

Didnt you forget the work option? You know that strange thing that pays the bills? Just curious but how old is she?

Old enough to know way better.

She will not get JSA as she needs to be actively looking for employment and furnish evidence of that. She is a coaster, one of the escaper brigade. Leave her to her own devices and cut your losses.

She worked all her life till she got here, I am sure that the moment she realises I ain't paying out she will find work quickly.

Let her find her own way or getting benefits whether eligible or not. Other Poles do.

They do indeed, I have huge respect for those making the move to London, it is hard enough to get established as a British Citizen.
Amathyst 19 | 2,702
26 Sep 2010 #20
I am indeed British, my dealings with the job centre were confusing beyond beleif.

Probably because you've always worked!

Just asumed by all the daily mail style hysteria I have heard over the years that it would be easier for her.

People who know how to work the system can milk it..

She worked all her life till she got here, I am sure that the moment she realises I ain't paying out she will find work quickly.

No offence, but you only have her word for that, any women who has had independent means all their adult life isnt going to be comfortable relying on someone for every penny they spend, in fact moving to another country you'd have thought she'd be desparate to have her own money coming in if thats what she was always used to.

Old enough to know way better.

Then so should you...time to cut the cord and let her start fending for herself....
guesswho 4 | 1,289
26 Sep 2010 #21
Polish eligibility to claim benefits in the UK

Can I get some cash in UK too. We're cousins and speak almost the same language ;-)
Seanus 15 | 19,706
27 Sep 2010 #22
She gets benefits and you get stress, hardly fair.
mark007 - | 58
28 Sep 2010 #23
Taxi for Polish sponger!!!!Get out now, you sound like a decent chap who has let his heart rule his head! Plenty more fish in the sea, don't worry about her, because it sounds like she has never given a stuff about you! Her choice, her decisions you just crack on in finding a decent girl and make sure you don't give up your freedom to easily next time round!! powodzenia
richasis 1 | 420
28 Sep 2010 #24
Can I get some cash in UK too.

I was thinking the same thing! :P
Seanus 15 | 19,706
13 Aug 2011 #25
I do see a fair bit of using, yes.

Many need prompting, that's true.

She is more than likely planning a way to get money to send back to Poland and get set up there. In my experience, when Poles travel, they always compare where they go to Poland and are critical of their chosen holiday destination. It's not about absorbing and sampling a new culture, it's about seeing it as a yardstick and to somehow see that Poland is so much better in all areas. I actually told sb to rap up as his comparisons were wearing thin.

Always set out with the thought in mind that she is using you and go from there.
schadzka
30 Aug 2011 #26
Have u ever thought guys how difficult to is actually find a job for a non-uk citizen while being discriminated because of not having English language as your first language?

Broken: If she is still in Ldn. Send her to a polish church, where she can get a support of the Poles-she might be able to find sth from there, and to my knowledge these benefits are really pennies..what was she doing in Poland?She might be able to find a job of a teaching assistant-she might say she has experience of working in PL in a primary school. It is not a lot, but still able to give her bread.

Unfortunately, Ldn is a very expensive place and there are not that many opportunities. In fact, she might be better off back in PL.
Im Polish myself, having lived in Ldn before.
Why did she break up, if I may ask? Were you of enough help to her?

I think she actually might be able for benefits, maybe housing support, employment search benefits, scholarship to gain qualifications...but she needs a lot of ecouragement, love, and a guidance...DOes she speak English at all? She may also need a career advisor? Have u thought of that? To all English: Pl is much better country to live, but that poor girl might not have realised that before moving there and mind that she moved there for the guy.

Judgemental English ********.

If she never leaves home she is depressed!!!! She needs help before she does sth to herself.Im sorry but you are responsible for her state and situation.

Dont waste her life. SPEAK TO HER. RESTRAIN FROM EMOTIONS> LISTEN TO HER>ASK HER TO GO TO PSYCHOLOGIST-GO WITH HER>
PWEI 3 | 612
30 Aug 2011 #27
I think she actually might be able for benefits, maybe housing support, employment search benefits,

No, she hasn't worked at all in the UK and is therefore entitled to exactly bugger all. Just as she should be.
isthatu2 4 | 2,702
31 Aug 2011 #28
.Im sorry but you are responsible for her state and situation.

bollox, you lived in london too long,caught the blame every bugger else for your situation disease.

Have u ever thought guys how difficult to is actually find a job for a non-uk citizen while being discriminated because of not having English language as your first language?

well they know where the fekkin door is!
Try being discriminated against in the UK because you dont speak fekkin Polish,now thats a knicker twister.
Richfilth 6 | 415
31 Aug 2011 #29
you lived in london too long,caught the blame every bugger else for your situation disease

That's Polish Syndrome, not Living In London Disease. "It's all their fault I'm poor and jobless 22 years after Communism..."

To the OP, while she may not be eligible for state support, there are plenty of outreach centres and institutions to help people like your ex-fiance. I'm sure the Polish community in London will offer some decent advice.
Bernard
4 Jan 2012 #30
Sounds like a Freeloader to me mate, there were plenty of jobs going and if she really wanted too she could make an effort to sort herself out. Write her a Cheque or book her an Easyjet flight to wherever in Poland she is from. Let her family pick up the pieces, seems you have done enough.


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