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Are there too many East Europeans, Poles in West Europe now?


Jemmerson
28 Oct 2014 #1
I was reading an article about prositition in the West, the main culprits were Eastern European. The next news story I read from a completely different source was speaking about the drugs problem - guess who the culprits were.
goofy_the_dog
28 Oct 2014 #2
English chavs maybe? :)
but seriously i think you have created this thread on a wrong forum, Poland is not in Eastern Europe, we are in the Central Europe.

Nothibng to worry about, I know many english people that dont knwo where London is on a map :)
L777
28 Oct 2014 #3
Poland is not in Eastern Europe,

Poland "is" in Eastern Europe.
jon357 67 | 16,848
28 Oct 2014 #4
It's a bit of both.
L777
28 Oct 2014 #5
Cannot be a bit of both.
jon357 67 | 16,848
28 Oct 2014 #7
Whaddya mean, cannot be a bit of both? Neither of those descriptions are written in stone.
smurf 39 | 1,981
28 Oct 2014 #8
Let me guess, The Daily Fail.

Mods, please close this thread, just another guest account coming here to troll.
jon357 67 | 16,848
28 Oct 2014 #9
Exactly. The OP is certainly trolling; he, she or it doesn't even make it clear which country the spurious article is about.
Wulkan - | 3,249
28 Oct 2014 #10
Are there too many East Europeans, Poles in West Europe now?

So Poland or Eastern Europe? You need to make your mind up son.

It's a bit of both.

Yes, there are many definitions

Cannot be a bit of both.

You "cannot" be serious user with your guest account.

just another guest account coming here to troll.

agree
smurf 39 | 1,981
28 Oct 2014 #11
Poland isn't in East Europe anyway

Poland (Polish: Polska), officially the Republic of Poland (Polish: Rzeczpospolita Polska is a country in Central Europe[b][/b] bordered by Germany to the west; the Czech Republic and Slovakia to the south; Ukraine and Belarus to the east; and the Baltic Sea, Kaliningrad Oblast (a Russian exclave) and Lithuania to the north.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poland
jon357 67 | 16,848
28 Oct 2014 #12
Remember it's moved borders a few times now. In culture, geography, language, food, economy and agriculture it's all sorts of different things. There's a long and heated thread about this somewhere.

Plus, what you see in, say, Gliwice isn't necessarily what you see in Hajnówka. It doesn't do the country any justice to use confusing descriptions.
L777
28 Oct 2014 #13
Whaddya mean, cannot be a bit of both? Neither of those descriptions are written in stone.

There is eastern Europe and there is western Europe. There is no western - eastern Europe.
jon357 67 | 16,848
28 Oct 2014 #14
Who said there was? It's much more complicated than that. Poland falls into more than one category and as established in the thread on this, different agencies use different terms - some even use more than one, like Central and Eastern Europe.
Less777 - | 50
28 Oct 2014 #15
It's much more complicated than that.

I think there is no need to over complicate things.
jon357 67 | 16,848
28 Oct 2014 #16
Nor oversimplify complex matters. Labels generally don't fit exactly, and as was established in the other thread, PL is Central Europe in some respects and in Eastern Europe in others.
Cardno85 31 | 976
28 Oct 2014 #17
I know Alex Salmond was encouraging immigration from Europe during the Referendum in Scotland. We need to create more jobs, we cannot create more jobs without people to take them.
haha
12 Apr 2016 #18
Geographically Central Europe.

Politically + Economically Eastern Europe

Politically means, from Soviet Union I guess.
Dougpol1 32 | 2,708
13 Apr 2016 #19
Politically + Economically Eastern Europe

And that is what is SO damaging about this PIS government. The European perception of the Poles:(

Back to Eastern Europe, albeit temporarily, but fecking bad news for economic progress and for the old credit rating:(
Lyzko 29 | 7,328
13 Apr 2016 #20
Eastern Europeans living and working in Western Europe, particularly the Federal Republic of Germany, is scarcely new or news:-)

Certainly, the migrant challenges facing Germany in particular have tended to color Western views of former Black Market residents waltzing into already established economies such as Germany, France, Scandinavia etc. and practically expecting employment at a Western aka "American" salary!

Surely Poles, Czechs, Russians and Ukrainians can draw from their own multi-talented pool of preprared professionals. The problem arises when the level of training (especially of English-language skills) in some cases is not commensurate with that of the Germany or Sweden. An earnest, young 20-something Moldovan with a degree in medicine from Kishniev University may indeed imagine him or herself amply qualified to seek work as a physician in any number of Western European larger urban areas. The question remains, are they necessarily up to the job.
Dreamergirl 4 | 276
14 Apr 2016 #21
I think we need more polish in England
AdrianK9 6 | 369
14 Apr 2016 #22
No, but there are too many Arab and African migrants in West Europe now.
Crow 146 | 9,235
15 Apr 2016 #24
i hope that would Poles come back to Poland. In any case, in my Serbia, i noticed with great pleasure that global crisis and pressure of migrants making that many Serbians who in the past left the country for all sorts of reasons, now coming back, opening smaller or bigger business. i think that this becoming massive trend. First wave of Serbs who started to came back was from Greece, for known reason. Now, they coming back from western Europe, USA, even from Canada and Australia.
AdrianK9 6 | 369
15 Apr 2016 #25
migrants making that many Serbians who in the past left the country for all sorts of reasons, now coming back,

Are there a lot of migrants that have settled in Serbia?

Stick to the topic please

Stick to the topic please

Sorry. I know the Polish diaspora is HUGE - even during Communist times Poles would go to various countries to work - especially Germany in the summer but also places like S. Africa, Libya, sometimes Russia or Kazakhstan, and other communist countries - even those in Africa and Asia. It looks like most of the Poles have gone to the UK but I believe there is quite a bit in France - I wonder if there is a large Polish community in places like Sweden, Denmark, Holland, and Switzerland.

A few years ago I found out there was a huge population of Poles living in South America - especially Brazil (over 1 million in Brazil) and Argentina.
Dreamergirl 4 | 276
15 Apr 2016 #26
As long as they come in England it's ok for me
Lyzko 29 | 7,328
15 Apr 2016 #27
As an easy aka quick source of proverbial "cheap" labour, any UK executive would likely jump at the chance to hire one over an (EQUALLY!!) qualified, native-born Brit:-) They're too expensiveLOL

Let's not kid ourselves. We know things are bad when a school hires an English instructor with such Polish language interference, a not so casual observer might actually wonder who the teacher is vs. the student. Why, you ask in dumbfounded amazement??

'Cuz the Pole underbid the Brit, that's why!!
AdrianK9 6 | 369
15 Apr 2016 #28
Yeah... we're kind of like the Mexicans of Europe lol - cheap labor, great at construction... Not a problem with me though - at least we're hard working and many Poles have come from nothing in Poland but made a fortunate in the West... like me - I went from living in a roach infested apartment in the ghetto to a million dollar home.
Lyzko 29 | 7,328
15 Apr 2016 #29
Nothing to be proud of, Adrian, I can assure you.
AdrianK9 6 | 369
15 Apr 2016 #30
Poles are regarded as very hardworking wherever they go - that is something to be proud of. At first, there were many Americans that would call us 'dumb polaks' but now they see we're busting our butts, contributing to the economy, and now we're the ones with the newly remodeled homes and German cars in the driveway and sending their kids to college. That is something to be very proud of since it means we came from a disadvantaged background but managed to overcome. Most of the immigrants do not speak good English, do not have an education, and do not know the country to which they emigrate - whether it's the US or UK or whatever. However, through hard work and perseverance, we manage to overcome and become successful. We provide for our children and try to give them an education so that they don't have to work physically to achieve a decent life.


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