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Crying Polish truck driver on British roads is Internet hit


p3undone 8 | 1,135
11 Jul 2012  #181
Rybnik do you think it's possible that he may have been worried because of the knife?The call was reported that he was waving a knife at

the other motorists,If he overheard the caller,now the situation could becomes a different ballgame;were the cops to pursue it.I really don't

know;my instincts tell me that he thought he was going to be arrested,but I may be wrong.My point was he got a ticket and went on his way

No big deal.It's to bad that it had to be all over the tv and internet.
rybnik 18 | 1,462
11 Jul 2012  #182
.My point was he got a ticket and went on his wayNo big deal.It's to bad that it had to be all over the tv and internet.

agreed

Rybnik do you think it's possible that he may have been worried because of the knife?

yes it's possible
Des Essientes 7 | 1,292
11 Jul 2012  #183
Truth is, he was lazy, pulled over and when caught went into his "why are you persecuting me" routine

Rybnik chalking his actions up to "laziness" makes you sound like one of these uptight withered Protestant British types, besides which you don't really know if that is the truth, do you?

.....I would not be so surprised if a novice truck driver acted that way but for a grown man of so many years experience to squeal like a little spoiled brat is simply revolting to watch.

He didn't really squeal like a spoiled brat, but I do agree that watching anyone weep is rather bothersome. As for his suppossed lack of professionalism,are truck drivers' supposed to have no emotions? Is stoicism really comme il faut for that profession? I say cut the guy some slack.

.I'm not trying to
make you look like an authoritarian square.

P3undone, I suspect that you didn't really understand what I wrote. I was saying that people self-righteously condemning this driver's actions, and saying that "he got off easy", are acting like uptight authoritarian squares.

Is you want to make the man
a poster boy for the savage,brutal and appalling treatment of people at the hands of the police;go ahead.

Again I think you should read what I wrote more clearly. I never claimed that he was treated brutally, savagely, or appallingly.

By messed up,just a figure of speech;You probably would have said the same thing if I said he made a mistake.

I would have said what same thing?
mickstar813 - | 11
11 Jul 2012  #184
Has anyone realised here... That the police are in a program called 'Traffic Cops'. This means they are police and that they are catching people who drive like bells and park illegally, right? Or am I wrong? So that is the answer to 'why they were doing something so 'pinickity' in this case, their 'job.' To catch people doing illegal things on the road on camera. That is what has happened. Traffic Cops is a program for people to watch. It is seen as 'comedy' in Britain. They're not going to put on the program a Brit going 'Oh ok. I will just pop off then' no one would watch it. There are however lots and lots of **** British drivers in this program, and from other nationalities. Not just Polish! Unfortunately this guy was Polish and he reacted terribly, although slightly funny as well.

The Polish guy got nervous, who wouldn't? Camera on your face, you feel like you're screwed. He panics and can't understand what they are saying. It's pretty normal to act like that. He probably thought hes going to jail, losing money and could lose his job. Who wouldn't panic?

No idea why people are defending him so much though? Can someone explain that? I understand it is not a life threatening thing, but it just is against the law, right? So he's not meant to do it. That's all. As seen in many other threads, where someone who isn't Polish is going against Polish laws and all the Polish people are saying 'It's our land, our law' the same applies here. It's Britain, their laws. The police had a job, to catch illegally parked trucks, whatever nationality.

I know there are a lot of Polish people in Britain, making them susceptible to being victims of something, which gives an 'impression' that there is racism because probably quite a few of them feel unwelcome at times. Before any of you guys say 'IMPRESSION! GWAHHH!' please listen. There is racism in Uk. I can tell you that. Before I came to Poland and lived here, I thought Poland was 'so far behind' Uk etc and now, I feel DISGUSTED at myself, especially after Euros. However, this is just not one of those cases. The Polish man was wrong and I understand the frustration you are going through, that the BBC are showing Polish people in being 'stupid' and laughing at them almost. I understand the frustration about that.

However, what Monia said 'Look at their stupid expressions' regarding the British is just as racist. You can deny all you want, but you have a vision on what a British policeman is like. Although I agree most of them are useless, what you are saying and believing is just as racist. On top of this, I sense you feel like British people look down on Polish people. Have you had a bad experience in the past?

What I can't stand people saying is that he got picked on BECAUSE he is Polish. Does that mean if the police officers saw he was English, Italian, French, Spanish, American, Japanese, Chinese they would have just said 'Oh ok, don't worry. It's no big deal.' ?!?!?! No, they wouldn't. And there is a clear example in this exact scene. The Turkish man took the fine, said thank you and drove off. Because the Polish guy didn't do this, it made the program interesting resulting in him being a national hit.

That's it. Nothing more to really say on it. Rant over.
rybnik 18 | 1,462
11 Jul 2012  #185
He didn't really squeal like a spoiled brat, but I do agree that watching anyone weep is rather bothersome. As for his suppossed lack of professionalism,,are truck drivers' supposed to have no emotions? Is stoicism really comme il faut for that proffession? I say cut the guy some slack.p3undone: .I'm not trying tomake you look like an authoritarian square.

au contraire. He was acting like a spoiled brat caught with his hand in the cookie jar. When mommy caught him he began to whine like a brat. He was surprised and frustrated that it wasn't working thus intensifying his whine.

Rybnik chalking his actions up to "laziness" makes you sound like one of these uptight withered Protestant British types, besides which you don't really know if that is the truth though, do you?

I do know this: a truck driver of his many years of experience (by his own account) would have known better. I'm assuming he is a professional and that he knew better. Hence my lazy descriptor. He literally took a shortcut and got caught. Btw I'm an atheist ;)
p3undone 8 | 1,135
11 Jul 2012  #186
Des Essenties,you know that I didn't exaggerate the magnitude by using the figure of speech messed up.Had I said mistake;you would have called that an exaggeration to.You act as if what he did was totally legal and that the Police extremely overreacted by giving him a ticket.You

don't actually have to say anything;You're implications are clear enough..
Des Essientes 7 | 1,292
11 Jul 2012  #187
Had I said mistake;you would have called that an exaggeration to

No I wouldn't have. I agree that stopping on the shoulder is a mistake.

You act as if what he did was totally legal and that the Police extremely overreacted by giving him a ticket.

No, I don't "act" like that, nor did I say that. P3undone, why do you read these strange conclusions into my posts?

You
don't actually have to say anything;You're implications are clear enough..

That is a biarre claim to make on a text-based discussion forum You should probably be more circumspect before you jump to ridiculous conclusions about the implications of what I've written, and you really needn't concern yourself with what I "don't actually have to say".

He was acting like a spoiled brat caught with his hand in the cookie jar.

I think that metaphor is less than apt. Being parked on the side of the highway is hardly as sweet as a stolen confection. It seemed to me that he was worried about what the policemen, whose language he didn't understand, were going to do to him.

I'm assuming he is a professional and that he knew better. Hence my lazy descriptor.

Fair enough, I suppose I have heard the term "lazy" used in this sense before.

He literally took a shortcut and got caught

Being parked isn't literally taking a shortcut. Perhaps you mean that he took a metaphorical shortcut to his dinner by deciding to have it on the highway shoulder. As for his getting caught, I wish he'd been able to drive away before the cops got to him, but at least the fine he had to pay wasn't very costly.
PolkaTagAlong 10 | 186
11 Jul 2012  #188
uhh huuuuh huuuuh huuuuh uhhh huuuuh huuuuh huuuh *makes sad face*

*Wipes eyes and sniffles*

youtube.com/watch?v=0A89VTMk8HA

This is actually hilarious to me because when I got stopped one time for tailgating I cried uncontrollably because I was afraid the cop was going to take away my license or something because he sounded so mad.
p3undone 8 | 1,135
11 Jul 2012  #189
Des Essenties,any one who would read your prior posts on this matter would draw the same "strange conclusions".You said I exaggerated the

magnitude,when I used the figure of speech messed up;most people understand that means the same as made a mistake.Maybe it was wrong

for me to assume that you did,if so;my bad.You equated messed up to a mess,I know you're brighter than that.You said that he is more of a man because he doesn't lick the shoes of authority,like some groveling craven dog;or something to that effect.It's not that I didn't read it clearly

it's that you should be more clear about who you are referring to when you say let's not make this a contest for being an authoritarian square.

You know;stuff like that.It's simple;He was on the shoulder,he was told by others that he couldn't stay there,he didn't leave.When the cops

came he cried;I attribute this to him thinking he was going to be arrested,again,understandable,He wasn't,he got a ticket,he went home

and hopefully he doesn't park on the shoulder again.I concede that I didn't have to say man up;ok.

Des Essenties,I have read your posts more clearly and You were right,I read them less clearly then you wrote them,My reaction was knee jerk;

When you said I exaggerated the offence and let's not have a contest to be an authoritarian square,I realize I just misread your intent.For this

apologize.
Des Essientes 7 | 1,292
11 Jul 2012  #190
Des Essenties,any one who would read your prior posts on this matter would draw the same "strange conclusions".

No, p3undone, I seriously doubt that many other people would jump to the same conclusions about my brief statements upon this thread as you have done, and my name is spelled Des Essientes, not Des Essenties. I know you are a moderator and thus probably immune from the suspensions meted out for misspelling posters' names, but you should try to set a good example nonetheless.

You said I exaggerated the
magnitude,when I used the figure of speech messed up;most people understand that means the same as made a mistake.Maybe it was wrong
for me to assume that you did,if so;my bad.You equated messed up to a mess,I know you're brighter than that.

I said:

Don't exaggerate the magnitude of his offense.

I meant this statement to apply not to just you, p3undone, but to the all the readers and participants upon this thread. I understand that "messed up" is often used merely as the equivalent of having made a mistake, but if you honestly believe that the phrase "messed up" doesn't also connote the sense of having made a mess then I really don't know what to tell you, because it is obvious. I am sorry if you thought I was singling you out for exaggerating the driver's offense. Those above claiming that he was "a jerk" and that he "got off easy" were being far more hyperbolic than you, but since the term "messed up" does imply a mess, and the driver hadn't really made a mess (unless you count this thread) I used your post as an example of exaggerating the driver's offense.

it's that you should be more clear about who you are referring to when you say let's not make this a contest for being an authoritarian square.

I was referring to everyone reading and posting upon the forum. I wrote:

Let's not make the Polish discussion forum into a contest over who can be he most uptight authoritarian square. It would be un-Polish.

I fail to see how this exhortation above is in anyway unclear regarding the fact that I am addressing the whole forum.
P3undone, I know that a lot of the posters on this forum try to make it about "one on one" fighting, but that is not what I am about, because that is what makes this forum a petty soap-opera about personalities rather than the issues and ideas that the threads are supposed to be about. If you think that you and I are in some sort of duel then you are mistaken.

You said that he is more of a man because he doesn't lick the shoes of authority,like some groveling craven dog;or something to that effect.

I meant that this driver's agitated defiance towards the police, when he felt they were going to ruin his day, was in my opinion more manly, even with the tears, than the attitude of someone who'd fawningly thank the police for ruining his day. I only made this comparison because you'd written:

man up,take your ticket and move on.

I felt you were being unfair towards the driver, but you have since graciously conceded that your statement, implying the driver's emasculation, was unneeded:

I concede that I didn't have to say man up;ok.

Well done. You've literally moderated.
(Perhaps you might adopt a more standard method of typing out your posts as well. Your current mode of presentation is rather difficult to read.)

Edit: I wrote the above before seeing your most recent post p3undone. Thank you for re-reading my posts and thank you for apologizing for jumping to conclusions about them.
Harry
11 Jul 2012  #191
" I seriously doubt that many other people would jump to the same conclusions about my brief statements upon this thread as you have done, and my name is spelled Des Essientes, not Des Essenties."

Given the racist rubbish you have posted in this thread about the British and the fact you've been suspended in the past for posting racist insults aimed at British posters, it is highly probable that other people here reached identical conclusions. And your username is indeed sometimes spelt in different ways.

Bottom line: truck driver was in the wrong and was treated far better by the police than a person in a similar situation here would be.
jon357 64 | 14,382
11 Jul 2012  #192
I wasn't convinced. I work in a prison and am subjected to the best manipulators our society can muster. Stasiu wasn't convincing. He's done this before. What got him going was the fact that the cops were'nt buying his act. He knew all along it was about a ticket and nothing more. Stasiu thought he'd skombinowac his way out of it but it didn't work.

This rings true.

The rules of the road are there for safety. The hard shoulder is there to save lives, not to boil potatoes or park up on. A lorry driver with 20 years of experience certainly knows this well.

And frankly the guy's display was pathetic. Did he really think they wouldn't give him the ticket because of crocodile tears? Given that he waved a knife at them he was very lucky indeed.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,725
11 Jul 2012  #193
I meant that this driver's agitated defiance towards the police, when he felt they were going to ruin his day, was in my opinion more manly, even with the tears, than the attitude of someone who'd fawningly thank the police for ruining his day.

manly?
If that was one of the men in my life I would be ashamed of him,unless he were to become a new comedy icon and incredibly rich and could buy me a house in Barbados.

Come on folks, lighten up.....some of these comments are bordering on the....slightly nutty.
Harry
11 Jul 2012  #194
Utterly pathetic display. And in strong contrast to that of the police: instead of reacting to him waving a deadly weapon around, they very quickly got him an interpreter (which simply does not happen here).
jon357 64 | 14,382
11 Jul 2012  #195
some of these comments are bordering on the....slightly nutty

Only slightly?

I hadn't seen the one describing him as manly or talking about 'agitated defiance' whatever that is.

Amazing really that some people can spring to the defence of a total jerk of a truck driver who was behaving dangerously and was very very lucky indeed. Scary that that particular guy is in charge of 20 tons of metal with an engine...
p3undone 8 | 1,135
11 Jul 2012  #196
Des Esseintes,Got that out of your system,Here is something you need to know right now,I don't want to be in any duel with you.If you can't see

how I would infer that that's fine;the debate becomes circular.I apologize where it is needed.I don't critique the way you post,please don't do that

to me.I will post my way period.I apologized for my reaction and let you know where it came from.You're abrasive even when you don't intend it.

As for my moderating you don't know the half.I treat you with respect,I may not always agree with you.but I do treat you with respect,I expect the

same.
Des Essientes 7 | 1,292
11 Jul 2012  #197
Given the racist rubbish you have posted in this thread about the British

Harry I posted nothing racist in this thread and you know it. Stop lying.

I don't critique the way you post,please don't do that
to me.I will post my way period.

O.K. but you must be aware that your posts are bizarrely punctuated and spaced. Is this because you are typing on a phone?

You're abrasive even when you don't intend it.

I am sorry.
p3undone 8 | 1,135
11 Jul 2012  #198
Des Essientes,just on my laptop,Thank you for the apology.
Harry
11 Jul 2012  #199
a total jerk of a truck driver who was behaving dangerously and was very very lucky indeed. Scary that that particular guy is in charge of 20 tons of metal with an engine...

Got to wonder whether he'd start crying if his son/daughter was killed a collision caused by somebody deciding that traffic laws simply don't apply when they are hungry.

the one describing him as manly

I guess that some people use different words to describe things which are frankly just pathetic.

I do treat you with respect,I expect the same.

Good luck with getting that from him.

Harry I posted nothing racist in this thread and you know it. Stop lying.

Your racist diatribe was moved to the bin, want me to link to it?
Wroclaw Boy
11 Jul 2012  #200
I only watched that video for the first time last night.

What a complete actor the Polish guy was, 100% crocodile tears, he was 100% fake. Pretty funny video all in all.

When im out and about on the UK's motorway networks i frequently witness dangerous driving from foreign truck drivers. Theres been a massive increase in the amount of foreign trucks on the road since i last lived in the UK.
ukpolska
11 Jul 2012  #201
It is hard for me to discuss if you use personal attack on me.

It is not a personal attack, it is a personal opinion on your comments here which are totally devoid of objectivity.

I wish you all be ridiculed on Polish TV the same way he was.

What are you 12?

It is about handling the case by professional police in your country.

My country is your country as I have lived here for over 13 years now, but unlike you I hold objectivity as an important tool when making comments.

I love this country of Poland that I have made my home with my family here. I also care (not so much these days) about my own native country of the UK, but this doesn't blinker me into talking about the warts and all of both.

There are many examples of trying to avoid driving offenses by foreigners in each country of the EU.
Anyone remember the mystery of Ireland's worst driver, "Prawo Jazdy" who racked up over 50 different driving infractions during the past few years, each time giving a different address to evade police.

Or
The British driver who got away with speeding in Germany because he was using a right-hand drive car with UK plates, but that wasn't the end of it as the driver was taunting the Police but sticking in a Muppet Show character in the passenger seat making it look like he was driving the car when the car was caught by a speed camera.

Police can be ******** all over the world and here is a pretty bad example of a racist Policeman in the US dealing some German drivers.
Harry
11 Jul 2012  #202
here is a pretty bad example of a racist Policeman in the US dealing some German drivers.

That is pretty harsh. But I did laugh at the cop saying "You weren't following nobody, I was right in front of you."
rybnik 18 | 1,462
11 Jul 2012  #203
Perhaps you mean that he took a metaphorical shortcut to his dinner by deciding to have it on the highway shoulder.

yes. I stand corrected
Ironside 47 | 9,574
11 Jul 2012  #204
Bottom line: truck driver was in the wrong and was treated far better by the police than a person in a similar situation here would be.

Are you totalitarian regime lover ?

Given that he waved a knife at them he was very lucky indeed.

Get it over ! Anything can be a weapon, it doesn't mean that on seeing a knife one has to go hysterical !

slightly nutty.

you are right; for example:

Utterly pathetic display. And in strong contrast to that of the police: instead of reacting to him waving a deadly weapon around, they very quickly got him an interpreter

Scary that that particular guy is in charge of 20 tons of metal with an engine...

Have you met any politicians lately? That is scary !
jon357 64 | 14,382
11 Jul 2012  #205
Get it over ! Anything can be a weapon, it doesn't mean that on seeing a knife one has to go hysterical !

Do you really mean that? And do you think the officers ''went hysterical''?
Harry
11 Jul 2012  #206
Anything can be a weapon, it doesn't mean that on seeing a knife one has to go hysterical !

Wave a knife around in front of a Polish police officer and see what happens. Really. I'll even give you a knife to do it with.

And do you think the officers ''went hysterical''?

Yep: they were the ones crying and waving weapons around. Weren't they?
Ironside 47 | 9,574
11 Jul 2012  #207
Do you really mean that? And do you think the officers ''went hysterical''?

That anything can be a weapon - yes! The law related to knifes is silly.
No, I don't think that officers went hysterical. I meant some posters here.
They have no reason to be wary, and to their credit they weren't !
4 eigner 2 | 831
11 Jul 2012  #208
That anything can be a weapon - yes! The law related to knifes is silly.

not when the guy is behaving like that. C'mon Ironside, admit finally that the guy is an idiot. You don't have to defend him just because he's a Pole. We all have our morons including Poland.
Ironside 47 | 9,574
11 Jul 2012  #209
C'mon Ironside, admit finally that the guy is an idiot.

I don't defend him at all. I'm debating some ridiculous statements here.
Harry
11 Jul 2012  #210
They have no reason to be wary

Other than the fact that he's been waving a knife around.


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