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Criminal elements within the Polish community in the UK


RR1972
2 Mar 2018 #1
Before I start. Let me declare I am a person of very international persuasion. I have lived/worked in 5 countries over 10 years including Poland for 2 years. Additionally, I hire professionals for a living and regularly hire Polish men and women who want to settle down in the UK. I am a British born Indian male who knows what racism and victimisation is much more than the average Joe.

In the area I live in (Redbridge, London/Essex) we have seen an incredible rise in burglaries and theft (homes and cars). The culprits are sadly, almost 50% of time, young Polish men. Again, criminals come in all colours, shapes and sizes and the average British person hasn't got a clue how to tell the difference between a Pole, Lithuanian, Latvian or Bulgarian for that matter but in my community we have learnt to tell the difference really well. My brother-in-law is one of many cops that make these arrests on a daily basis and can state categorically that after The Roma, it is young Polish men who commit the vast majority of burglary and vehicle theft in London.

The root cause of the problem of course is young, largely speaking under-educated men, who come to the UK with no qualifications and high expectations and then realise this place is an overpriced hell-hole where unless you are a high earning professional, you cannot make a decent living. Washing cars and delivering packages barely covers the rent. And so people turn to crime. I get it, we get it, everyone gets it!

My question is simple. Does the Polish community accept there is a problem with young men struggling to live here, and who end up turning to crime? Are their any initiatives ongoing where institutions are looking at or addressing some of these issues? Or does British-Polish society not even acknowledge there's a problem?
dolnoslask 5 | 2,560
2 Mar 2018 #2
root cause of the problem of course is

Many polish criminals have chosen to go to Britain to ply their trade, the pickings are easy. UK prisons and sentences are very soft compared to Poland. in fact I know they are encouraged to go to Britain, one prison in Poland put up a poster that encourages people to visit brighton.

I hope that helps answer your question.

PS crime is falling in Poland, thanks for the help and good luck.
gumishu 11 | 5,017
2 Mar 2018 #3
Does the Polish community

Poles in Britain (the newcomers) are hardly a community
gregy741 4 | 1,204
2 Mar 2018 #4
The culprits are sadly, almost 50% of time, young Polish men.

could you show me statistic data,?
i couldn't find

Polish men who commit the vast majority of burglary and vehicle theft in London.

and thats certainly not true.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,479
2 Mar 2018 #5
@RR1972

No Poles dont care.

For whatever reason it seems that Polish criminals chose UK over any other destination that the overall Polish diaspora migrates to.
Crow 137 | 7,756
2 Mar 2018 #6
We all know that there is no Polish criminal elements in United Kingdom aka Unilateral (English) Kingdom. Some Polish individuals may go crazy under the pressure of dark environment on island but those are unlucky individuals, themselves English victims.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,479
2 Mar 2018 #7
There's actually a lot of PL criminals in UK because the country and system is ripe for picking. Even old Polish people take advantage of the generous benefits to help subsidize their retirement.
dolnoslask 5 | 2,560
2 Mar 2018 #8
Dont forget the top notch free healthcare system.

Manyana if you are there unemployed compared to Poland where there is not that much on the table.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,479
2 Mar 2018 #9
In Poland to my understanding the payments are something like 80-100eu a month during which you have to prove you've been looking for a job.

This is why the Muslim and African economic migrants don't want to come to Poland - they'd actually have to work if they want food, housing, etc. Germany, Sweden, UK, etc. will give them all that stuff for free.

In UK you have seniors kicked out of council homes to make room for radical Muslims... the government is spending taxpayer money to plaster crap about ramadumb all over buses, but the Lord's prayer is taken out of PRIVATE movie theaters... not to mention this recruitment to make the British military effeminate... I mean diverse..

This is why I love countries like Poland, Hungary, Czechy, Ukraine, Russia, etc. - this type of BS doesn't even go into public consciousness and there's no debates on how can we get more trannies into our army, how can we further shove Islam down the throats of a majority Christian nation, how can we totally emasculate young males and make nationalists and patriots seem like evil fascists. No, instead the people and government say - this is a Christian nation and Poles/Hungarians/Czechs/Russians/etc are the most important people here - our country is for them, not economic migrants who refuse to assimilate and contribute
G (undercover)
2 Mar 2018 #10
young Polish men who commit the vast majority of burglary and vehicle theft in London.

Really ? So where are the statistics on all of that ? The one I saw a while ago indicated that the overall crime rate among Poles in the UK is like 20% below that for the general population in the UK.

Anyway, enjoy "diversity", aren't you guys lovin it so much ? If you import large number of Muslims without much control, you will get epidemic of rapes + "honor killings" and as a bonus some random terrorist attack here and there. Africans ? Most will rather deal drugs or just produce a crowd of kids to get benefits instead of doing anything productive. And If you import Poles (or Russians, or Latvians or...) in large numbers without any control, expect some drunk driving, some theft + random fist fights on the street.

That's just how it works. Indians ? I don't know but a million random people straight out of India would surely bring some crap with them.

Does the Polish community accept there is a problem with young men struggling to live here, and who end up turning to crime?

EU era Poles in the UK don't really form any community. There's no need for that these days.

Are their any initiatives ongoing where institutions are looking at or addressing some of these issues?

Which "initiatives" ? How about: find -> arrest -> punish/deport ?
kaprys 2 | 1,915
2 Mar 2018 #11
Don't feed the troll.
Crow 137 | 7,756
2 Mar 2018 #12
But how could Poles be criminal elements in Unilateral (English) Kingdom when entire state there represent criminal enterprise?

As Europeans, Poles have every right to take whatever they want in Britain. When they take it they saving it for Western world. As Slavs, Poles again have every right to take whatever they want in Britain. When they take it they just taking back what was stolen from Slavs. As Christians, Poles also have every right to take whatever they want in Britain. When they take it they protects it for Christianity.

Take as much as possible from Britain. Save it, take it back, protect it.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,479
2 Mar 2018 #13
When they take it they just taking back what was stolen from Slavs.

Exactly. Every benefit that a Polish person files in England, legally or not, is a fraction of all the economic and social problems caused due to UK and the western betrayal of Poland after ww2.
Crow 137 | 7,756
2 Mar 2018 #14
And much before WWII. What about era of slavery and before that and all to the WWII and to the our time. You think that is Poland independent from England? Every second they stealing from Poland and Poles.
G (undercover)
3 Mar 2018 #15
Every benefit that a Polish person files in England, legally or not, is a fraction of all the economic and social problems caused due to UK and the western betrayal of Poland after ww2.

Come on, what stealing something in 2018 has to do with WW2 ?
johnny reb 18 | 3,788
3 Mar 2018 #16
That would be like a Southern in the U.S.A. rationalizing that it is o.k. to be on government welfare because of the economics and social problems from the "Aggression of the North" a 150 years ago. (The Civil War)
G (undercover)
3 Mar 2018 #17
I think they were joking, at least I hope so.
polishinvestor 1 | 362
3 Mar 2018 #18
young, largely speaking under-educated men, who come to the UK with no qualifications and high expectations

These days its only those types that go abroad given they have ran out of options in Poland. Most folks are able to move through the system and find suitable work here, whether thats through employment or self employment.
OP RR1972
4 Mar 2018 #19
could you show me statistic data,?

No data. It would be politically incorrect to do so. Policemen will admit in private though.

Take a look here:

youtube.com/results?search_query=ilford+stolen

Have a look and tell me if they are White British, Indian/Pakistani, Black or Eastern European. Sure they could be Lithuanian or Romanian but the facial features and stockiness is hallmark Polish.
kaprys 2 | 1,915
4 Mar 2018 #20
ilfordrecorder.co.uk/news/crime-court

Is it the place where you live in?
Ironside 48 | 9,905
4 Mar 2018 #21
Sure they could be Lithuanian or Romanian but the facial features and stockiness is hallmark Polish.

Let assume for the sake of debate here that you're 100% right here. I don't think that you are but let to put aside for a moment. What is your issue here? What do you think it indicate? What is that you want?

Well, your link on the front page has a picture or a man that doesn't look very northern European and it says - Javaid Ahmed jailed for his part in operating 4,5 million pounds prostitution ring in central London.

Are you trolling?
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,671
4 Mar 2018 #22
of course he is trolling ffs.
I seriously doubt that all this crime is being carried out by Polish people in London.
Polish people are 'on top of the pile' of recent immigrants.
More crimes will be being carried out by Moldovans, Romanians, Albanians, Bulgarians, etc etc.
G (undercover)
4 Mar 2018 #23
No data. It would be politically incorrect to do so. Policemen will admit in private though.

Huh ? Of course there are statistics on such things, the number of prisoners by citizenship, the number of sentences of foreigners by citizenship (many brownies hide under "British" but vast majority of Poles in the UK holds Polish citizenship) and they do not confirm the crap you are spreading here.
Wulkan - | 3,251
4 Mar 2018 #24
Does the Polish community accept there is a problem with young men struggling to live here, and who end up turning to crime?

Nothing to accept, because it is not truth.

No data. It would be politically incorrect to do so. Policemen will admit in private though.

Now that's a good one :-)))

I am a British born Indian male who knows what racism and victimisation is much more than the average Joe.

Well of course, because you have a brown skin, that makes you know more about racism than the Joe who is white, such a stupid thing to say and so typical.
spiritus 67 | 664
6 Mar 2018 #25
What is the source for the opening post ???

What next ? A thread about "Polish hooligans littering the moon" ? Let's not verify the source of the claim but instead let's discuss for pages and pages why some of us may believe that Poles have a "problem" with littering.
Miloslaw 6 | 2,567
7 Mar 2018 #26
In my area most of the crime is committed by British born Indians but like RR1972,I won't offer any evidence............ ;-)
It is true that Polish criminals have come to The UK to try their luck but they are a very small minority.
In general I would say that Poles are more law abiding than Brits.


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