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Polish city that's moved to Britain


jon357 74 | 22,258
8 Jan 2013 #31
I tend not to go wandering around in the night, but £ódź is a nice place to go for a walk. Stara Praga too.
Ironside 51 | 12,441
8 Jan 2013 #32
The city's council is planing to sue editors of the Sun.
jon357 74 | 22,258
8 Jan 2013 #33
I doubt they'll get very far. A city trying to sue a newspaper because they disagree with an article would just be laughed out of any English court. Should they try to sue in a Polish court they could only sue the tiny number of outlets that distribute the newspaper in Poland and would probably still get nowhere. In any case, Mr Murdoch has better lawyers than the city of £ódź.
zetigrek
8 Jan 2013 #34
The city's council is planing to sue editors of the Sun.

any links? what's the reason?
Ironside 51 | 12,441
8 Jan 2013 #35
Not in English, The article.
jon357 74 | 22,258
8 Jan 2013 #36
It was probably just an off the cuff statement from their press office. Trying to sue would be a pointless waste of money they could better spend elsewhere.

If it were feasible, every other guidebook would be sued.
zetigrek
8 Jan 2013 #37
Not in English, The article.

I've already found one. It's funny to read the comments below, somehow people seem to agree with... the Sun, lol
jon357 74 | 22,258
8 Jan 2013 #38
One the one hand, sometimes people don't like their city to be criticised by outsiders, on the other hand, there was a bit of truth in the article.

I agree with Hipis about the photo of Piotrkowska though. It certainly wasn't the middle of the day. Probably dawn on a public holiday.
zetigrek
8 Jan 2013 #39
It certainly wasn't the middle of the day.

That's how Piotrkowska looks about 12 am. It gets more crowded in the evenings.
Ironside 51 | 12,441
8 Jan 2013 #40
I've already found one. It's funny to read the comments below, somehow people seem to agree with... the Sun, lol

Well in the greater order of things they are right. Poland's population shrinking to about fifteen millions. No industry, so called green belt for the EU.

Anyway general imprison of average Joe in Poland would be that everything going to the dogs.
There is something rotten .....
Of course the Sun was stretching the truth for its own dark reasons.:)
jon357 74 | 22,258
8 Jan 2013 #41
Wow. I've never seen it that quiet.

The article is slanted in order to hold he attention of a readership who've mostly never been there. This is normal. There have also been some pretty daft articles about the UK in the Polish media.

Equally, there could have been an article about Manufaktura, the film school, Piotrkowska at night etc. I remember reading such articles in the UK press, but I suppose that it's more interesting to discuss on internet fora when people are offended.
Ironside 51 | 12,441
8 Jan 2013 #42
The article is slanted in order to hold he attention of a readership who've mostly never been there. This is normal. There have also been some pretty daft articles about the UK in the Polish media.

+1

it's more interesting to discuss on internet fora when people are offended.

+1
zetigrek
8 Jan 2013 #43
Of course the Sun was stretching the truth for its own dark reasons.:)

The article sounds as if the cause of suffering for the city was immigration, which is a nonsense.

Also an average hudsonhicks might think after reading that, that half of the Lodz moved to Britain for benefity and now one can be sure that it's not the feeble 2 milions but 2 345 001 Poles in the UK already! ;)
jon357 74 | 22,258
8 Jan 2013 #44
Their dark reason was to keep people reading, and to appeal to their market.

A shame though that a lot of people might take it at face value.
zetigrek
8 Jan 2013 #45
Equally, there could have been an article about Manufaktura

I feel shame that the main tourist attraction in a big city is... a shopping mall !

Piotrkowska at night etc

That would be interesting. Admire the drunk chavs. Look jon, I'm glad that you have such a fond memories of Lodz but to be honest when were you there last time?

I struggles to find anything ineteresting to see if you ask me, but maybe outsiders eyes would judge better. Have you been in any of Lodz textile tycoons palaces, did you like it? Does it make worth visiting it?

the film school

and? Can you do a sightseeing of it ?

Wow. I've never seen it that quiet.

I see it every day.
Ironside 51 | 12,441
8 Jan 2013 #46
not the feeble 2 milions

legendary two millions.

The article sounds as if the cause of suffering for the city was immigration, which is a nonsense.

Sure, immigration is an effect not a re4ason.
zetigrek
8 Jan 2013 #47
legendary two millions.

yup.
Have you noticed the official figures are blah blah blah, but our research suggests... ;DDD

Sure, immigration is an effect not a re4ason.

But the article suggests that all accountants of Lodz are in the UK, or did I misunderstand? ;)
OP Wroclaw Boy
8 Jan 2013 #48
Have you noticed the official figures are blah blah blah, but our research suggests...

people on the street have a figure the gov has their figure, its well, well over a million. i was in a shop the other day looking for some sports wear, three white families happened to be in ear shot of me and every one was Polish. In this particular shop the Asians and the Poles outnumbered the English about 3-1.

I'm not knocking immigration - just saying, there are lots here. Much more than the official figures.
zetigrek
8 Jan 2013 #49
i was in a shop the other day looking for some sports wear, three white families happened to be in ear shot of me and every one was Polish. In this particular shop the Asians and the Poles outnumbered the English about 3-1.

and you probably live in a big city.

people on the street have a figure the gov has their figure, its well, well over a million

WB how do you know that, have you counted them? Do immigrants have national flag stickers stuck to their foreheads? How a Briton can distinguish: a Pole, a Lithuanian, a Czech, a Slovakian, a Hungarian, a Russian, an Ukrainian... maybe all the newcommers are 2 mln althogether.
OP Wroclaw Boy
8 Jan 2013 #50
How a Briton can distinguish: a Pole, a Lithuanian, a Czech, a Slovakian, a Hungarian, a Russian, an Ukrainian

Well i know the language, and from the ones i hear only, the numbers are high. Even the Poles here say there are too many, the competition between them is quite fierce actually.

Many of the Brits that have an issue with Poles work with them, they know them, they talk to them. There are certain jobs advertised only for Poles, and in certain places if you don't speak Polish you will not get much conversation.

Its in the Govs interest to keep the numbers low, as they really made a mistake with this one.

Whats your angle for denying it? Do you know many people that work in the UK?

and did you sort your browser issue? i want to know what that was?

Do immigrants have national flag stickers stuck to their foreheads?

i can tell Polish from a mile away, i guarantee if we were walking down the street i could tell with about 8/10 accuracy who is Polish. Quite a few Brits can tell by now.
milky 13 | 1,656
8 Jan 2013 #51
Its in the Govs interest to keep the numbers low, as they really made a mistake with this one.

It's the Neo-liberal agenda- The West don't want to admit that it was all a disaster and the Polish government are just lame ducks bowing to the market.

I hate the Sun but Lodz is focked even more so than other cities in POLAND.
Ironside 51 | 12,441
8 Jan 2013 #52
Its in the Govs interest to keep the numbers low, as they really made a mistake with this one.

Is that conspiracy theory? I would think that such numbers would be easy to check.

i can tell Polish from a mile away, i guarantee if we were walking down the street i could tell with about 8/10 accuracy who is Polish

I believe that you can recognize foreigners but narrowing it down to Poles, well?
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,854
8 Jan 2013 #53
the language is a bit of a giveaway with Polish people......and a particular fashion look ....
like if there's a couple in lidl where the woman is wearing a ski jacket, jeans and stiletto heels and has her hair dyed red and the guy has a number one haircut and

they are moaning loudly at each other in Polish...it's a bit of a giveaway..
i honestly couldn' t tell who was lithuanian, hungarian etc., though, but i could have a good guess.
Piorun - | 658
8 Jan 2013 #54
the language is a bit of a giveaway with Polish people......and a particular fashion look ....

Yes we all know about British fashion. Very stylish.

British look
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,854
8 Jan 2013 #55
I didn't mean to be rude, I was just observing, every nation looks different, not in the face, but in style.
There's no need for that Piorun, every country has its underclass.
I doubt she will be at Oxford or Edinburgh uni any time soon, you know, where the really stupid Brits hang out.
zetigrek
8 Jan 2013 #56
Do you know many people that work in the UK?

No. That's why I see no reason to think that official numbers are lowered.

and did you sort your browser issue?

Nope. I stopped bother about that.

a ski jacket, jeans and stiletto heels and has her hair dyed red

You wouldn't recognize me on the street :)
Btw. aren't ginger hair fashionable?
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,854
8 Jan 2013 #57
You wouldn't recognize me on the street :)
Btw. aren't ginger hair fashionable?

haha only if you were having a really loud moan at yr boyfriend.
no, no not ginger, more a kind of .........plum?
OP Wroclaw Boy
8 Jan 2013 #58
Yes we all know about British fashion. Very stylish.

She looks Polish though.

No. That's why I see no reason to think that official numbers are lowered.

You live in Lodz and you know nobody that left to work in England, that seems very strange to me. My wife knows hundreds from her city, and its nowhere near as big as Lodz. I didnt have much contact with Poles when i lived in Poland and even i knew a few.
Ironside 51 | 12,441
8 Jan 2013 #59
She looks Polish though.

i guarantee if we were walking down the street i could tell with about 8/10 accuracy who is Polish

zetigrek
8 Jan 2013 #60
She looks Polish though.

I don't think so.
I haven't seen a women wearing cotton tracksuit pans on a street since 2004

You live in Lodz and you know nobody that left to work in England, that seems very strange to me.

I know people who had been in the UK but they returned. However I know people who live in other EU country (and it's not Ireland).


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