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British people more intelligent than the Poles?


hudsonhicks 21 | 346    
4 Dec 2012  #1
According to the latest ranking of the most intelligent people in the world live in Finland. Poland was the 14th position.

studies Economist Intelligence Unit (EIU) was attended by both students and teachers, and evaluated the overall performance in science, literacy and mathematics. countries that were ranked in the top stand out among other things that professional educator was very highly regarded by the state. Teachers also have a lot of freedom to work with children and showed a great creativity. wisest in the top twenty nationalities were as many as twelve European countries. Best situation in Finland. On the podium was even South Korea and Hong Kong. further two places also belong to the representatives of Asian countries - Japan and Singapore. Then there is the United Kingdom, the Netherlands and New Zealand, and the best ten closes Switzerland and Canada. before Polish, classified in 14th the place was still Ireland, Denmark and Australia. Just behind it, in turn, are Germany, Belgium and the United States. The twenties were still Hungary, Slovenia and Russia.

londynek

I spotted the headline on the sidebar and clicked it in anticipation for the usual whining and moaning by the Poles.. I was not disappointed :D

My favorite comment:

UK fared so well because all emigrants had overstated the level.

£ociec Rydzyk gadajom Polish immigrants that their presence had conquered the British intelligence and the Finns. So automatically Poland disappeared intelligence. How to return back to the Polish Polish emigrants to equalize the level of the UK and the Finns. But I do not want to hear to get back to the Polish cause too many plots in Poland and preparing the next one.

berni23 7 | 379    
4 Dec 2012  #2
obviously not all
Richfilth 6 | 415    
4 Dec 2012  #4
obviously not all

not all what?

That made my day :D
Astoria - | 155    
5 Dec 2012  #5
Brits are brainy, but not as brainy as the Poles, according to Professor Richard Lynn of the University of Ulster.

Average adult IQ in Europe:

1. Germany and the Netherlands: 107
2. Poland: 106
3. Sweden: 104
4. Italy: 102
5. Austria and Switzerland: 101
6. Britain: 100
...France and Romania: 94
...Serbia (lowest): 89

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-381057/European-IQ-map-proves-Brits-brain y.html

Lynn published his research in 2006 and didn't take into account a large influx of Poles to Britain. The question is: has the influx od brainy Poles improved the British IQ score or not?
4 eigner 2 | 831    
5 Dec 2012  #6
The question is: has the influx od brainy Poles improved the British IQ score or not?

no, the question is if high national IQ scores are correlated with economic success and the answer is, not really.
Astoria - | 155    
5 Dec 2012  #7
Since you know the answer, why do you ask the question?
4 eigner 2 | 831    
5 Dec 2012  #8
I wasn't asking, I was stating or do you see any question mark above?
lusia - | 17    
5 Dec 2012  #9
I spotted the headline on the sidebar and clicked it in anticipation for the usual whining and moaning by the Poles

but nothing can beat your whining and crying about Poles coming to the UK and taking jobs and benefits
OP hudsonhicks 21 | 346    
5 Dec 2012  #10
The question is: has the influx od brainy Poles improved the British IQ score or not?

Not to brainy yourself are you?

how much influencing can 5% of the population achieve haha
zetigrek    
5 Dec 2012  #11
in anticipation for the usual whining and moaning by the Poles.. I was not disappointed :D

Do you know who "£ojciec Rydzyk" is? :D
As usual, you didn't get the sarcasm...

According to this rank Germans are less intelligent than Poles, lol.
gucio    
12 Jan 2014  #12
IQ has many measuring models. Having lived in UK I find Critic crossword puzzles I.e. in Evening Standard to be high IQ. Having travelled between Poland and English world, I noticed the crossword puzzles in countries outside UK to be fairly low level.
jon357 64 | 14,382    
12 Jan 2014  #13
Try The Listener crossword - an absolute killer. Worth mentioning that cryptic crosswords work better in some languages than others.
Crow 143 | 7,407    
12 Jan 2014  #14
British people more intelligent than the Poles?

i consider Poles to be more intelligent.
jon357 64 | 14,382    
12 Jan 2014  #15
Do you know many of either, Crowie?
Polish Patriot    
12 Jan 2014  #16
evaluated the overall performance in science, literacy and mathematics. countries that were ranked in the top stand out among other things that professional educator was very highly regarded by the state.

What was this ranking for ? What did it measure ?
Probably you did not understand the subject which was tested in this ranking .
Maybe this ranking measured cognitive abilities not IQ ?
The most strange criteria of that ranking was such as :
1 that professional educator was very highly regarded by the state
2 teachers have a lot of freedom to work with children
What does the level of intelligence have to do with such criteria as above stated ?
jon357 64 | 14,382    
12 Jan 2014  #17
Rather a lot, really.
polpat    
12 Jan 2014  #18
the other research says Poles are more intelligent than the British, and some of the most intelligent in Europe, so?
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-381057/European-IQ-map-proves-Brits-brainy.html
Paulina 9 | 1,453    
12 Jan 2014  #19
British people more intelligent than the Poles?

Nope, they're less intelligent than Poles:

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-381057/European-IQ-map-proves-Brits-brainy.html

:)
Polish Patriot    
12 Jan 2014  #20
Rather nothing :

this is 2013 ranking of countries in IQ scores , Poland ranks 7-th
.iq-tests-for-the-high-range.com/statistics/iq_by_country.
jon357 64 | 14,382    
12 Jan 2014  #21
IQ

You realise that's the flawed Stamford-Binet scale. Not really used any more. And for that matter only one range of it!

No surprise though that you choose an older and less respected test that suits you.
Polish Patriot    
12 Jan 2014  #22
Also PISA scores are reliable to assess national intelligence :
the latest 2012 PISA scores :
steve.blogspot.com/2013/12/graph-of-2012-pisa-scores-for-65_4.

China cheats PISA authorities by submitting dates from some cities not a whole country , that`s why you have to disregard chinese cities or regions , if Poland gave away scores from Warsaw . Krakow or PoznaƄ our country might be the first .

China is Cheating the World Student Rankings System

Enough is enough: Beijing must supply national data to assessors and not simply the results of a small minority of elite students

Read more: World Student Rankings: China Is Cheating the PISA System | TIME.com world.time.com/2013/12/04/china-is-cheating-the-world-student-ran kings-system/#ixzz2qDQ6GUTi

In the latest PISA ranking ( disregarding scores from cities or regions of racial groups , Poland ranks 9-th with 1 point below Canada . Having in mind that countries like Lichtenstain are like cities ( 36 000) , Estonia (1.3 mln) Polish school students scored incredibly well for a nation of 38 mln. Countries with similar population scored far , far behind including UK , Germany , France , Spain .

The scores of large populated countries are like that :
1 South Korea 2 Japan 3 Poland ( 38 millions and 4 Canada 34 millions)
Poland and Canada scored the same but more Polish children were taking tests so I value higher Poland as more populated country and this factor impedes final performance of highly populated coutries like US for example .
jon357 64 | 14,382    
12 Jan 2014  #23
You do realise that the PISA scores are selected university students? I wonder what the results would be like if they were spread across some of Poland's less esteemed higher education establishments. The type that some countries give university status to and others don't.

The findings of the original posts seem the most accurate. They certainly cover a fairly rounded set of criteria.

Interesting that you're getting so worked up about it that you're spending time copying and pasting stuff about students.
Paulina 9 | 1,453    
12 Jan 2014  #24
The findings of the original posts seem the most accurate. They certainly cover a fairly rounded set of criteria.

It seems to me they say more about education in the said countries, rather than about intelligence of nations.
jon357 64 | 14,382    
12 Jan 2014  #25
In a way yes. More about the structure of education; what is and isn't a University and precisely who is included.
TheOther 5 | 3,683    
13 Jan 2014  #26
PISA scores are reliable to assess national intelligence

The scores don't have much value because a whole bunch of participating countries prepare their students specifically for the PISA test.
Meathead 5 | 470    
13 Jan 2014  #27
Having travelled between Poland and English world, I noticed the crossword puzzles in countries outside UK to be fairly low level.

The English are highly literate but I don't know if that's an accurate measure of intelligence. Are they bright?
McDouche 6 | 286    
13 Jan 2014  #28
Nope, they're less intelligent than Poles:

Stop posting the same link over and over that you have in chat.

Most other IQ surveys show that Poland is generally far below most of central and western Europe.
jaymans.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/europe-iq-1200-lynn20121.png?w=538&h=406

The Germanic people have contributed far more to science and engineering than Poles have. That is a fact. Most of the scientists who are considered the fathers of quantum mechanics were German and Austrian. Our understanding of electricity and magnetism is because of Brits such as Maxwell. Space rockets, automobiles, aircraft, calculus, etc. are all from brilliant people of the Germanic nations.

Note: I am talking about people who are culturally Germanic. I know some Poles (especially from the northwestern territory) are of Germanic descent.
Meathead 5 | 470    
13 Jan 2014  #29
Most other IQ surveys show that Poland is generally far below most of central and western Europe.

Germany has much more representation in the sciences because they've been politically much more stable than Poland. Poland has been occupied for about a quadzillion years which doesn't encourage research. Poles are intelligent, but it doesn't mean that they're right or they make the right decisions. They've had a difficult time governing themselves over the centuries. But that is no indicator of the populations' intelligence.
Crow 143 | 7,407    
13 Jan 2014  #30
Exactly. Put tomorrow Britain or particularly England in the similar situations and analyze Engleze as a rat in a laboratory. For example, imagine them as Russian gubernia for a century, then they restore their state. Then, imagine them under Spanish occupation for 50 years, then they liberate. Then, imagine them under the Egyptian yoke for also 50 years, then they liberate. Then, imagine them under the Turkish yoke for let`s say about 150 years, then they liberate. Etc... All that in the period of less then 1000 years


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