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Why some travelers hate Poland?


vetala - | 382
1 Apr 2010 #31
I heard about it. This is very interesting...

Frankly, sending a bodyguard with them isn't unreasonable:
israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/146081
ShortHairThug - | 1,103
1 Apr 2010 #32
Bratwurst Boy: Israelis today rally around the remembrance on the Holocaust to help them keep up the fight. I can't blame them!

No one here blames them, some like myself simply point out inaccuracy in their warped version of history for which we are automatically portrayed as anti-semites because someone actually dared to disagree and point out the falsehood. Newsflash, my ancestors suffered just the same, so did a lot of German families at the end of war. Sounds familiar? Nothing new really.

I think MareGaea might be right, there’s one Jewish youth in particular on this forum who creates more than his share of commotion known by many names, most catchy of them all is Beelzebub.

MareGaea: Don't know, I'm not responsible for what other Jewish ppl think

Easy there old chap just a healthy discussion.

jeden: bodyguard could shot me... couldn`t he?;)

I can see the headlines already.
A group of Israeli schoolchildren viciously attacked in an ant-semitic incident that took place yesterday in the center of Cracow, all in broad daylight.
Then go on and read the following in the article:

There’s only one casualty in the aftermath of this incident, thanks to the bravery exhibited by the Israeli security officer assigned to the group, his quick thought process in assessing the situation and resolve to end this blatant anti-semitic incident as soon as it started. One young anti-semitic Pole who appears to have been a member of some hate group judging by his manner of dress was the only casualty after security guard was forced to take the drastic measures to defend young Jewish lady’s honor from the advances of this unworthy Goim. He actually had a nerve to wink his eye at her and send her a kiss, all to the horror of the rest in the group.

Thanks to the quick reflexes and years of training in the IDF by the brave officer this whole incident lasted less than a second and was defused by the Israeli security detail before it had a chance to escalate, a fact we can all be proud of. As described by the eyewitnesses from the Israeli group this unfortunate turn of events stems from blatant anti-semitis which still exist in Poland today.

Here's an eyewitnesses accounts of this incident as described by the witness who's still in the state of shock.

“At first he was just making obscene gestures towards us but at one point it appeared as though he had throw something towards us, grenade perhaps?, that’s when our security guard had to take an action. The perpetrator knew very well we are Israelis, I mean how can the enormous Israeli flag that we carry at all times be confused for anything else but? He was fully aware of the fact we are Israelis yet he still proceeded to do his thing. Mind you the group was already in the state of shock after the visit to Auschwitz earlier that day and to be assaulted like that by one of the descendants who committed this horrid crime left us no choice really but to defend ourselves. If it wasn’t for the action of the security detail who knows how many of us would have to endure those very same insults and anti-semitic gestures that one of our classmates had to endure for such a long time before any sort of reaction was taken.”

The rest of the group corroborates this version of events which put an end to the speculation proposed by some that this might of just have been one big misunderstanding, no malicious intent, but we know the truth.

vetala: Frankly, sending a bodyguard with them isn't unreasonable:

Really?
McCoy 27 | 1,275
1 Apr 2010 #33
Crow: only idiots and imbeciles could hate Poland

double that (:
Seanus 15 | 19,706
2 Apr 2010 #34
True, it makes no sense to target the whole country at all. Those who don't appreciate the hospitality or wide range of markets are just blind. Poland is a great country to explore and learn new things.
FUZZYWICKETS 8 | 1,883
2 Apr 2010 #35
if we're talking strictly from a tourist's perspective, i can't understand why a traveler would hate Poland.

Polish families in general are quite hospitable, so if you're popping in and out of apts. for a week or two visiting a friend's family for example, there's really not much to dislike.

it's still zloties here, so chances are your currency allows you to spend freely.

if you're a dude, well, we all know about polish girls....some of the finest specimens in the world.

the country in general is quite safe, assuming you're white.

although they're not clean, PKP, trams/buses are reasonably priced, and regarding trams, most foreigners don't pay for tram tickets anyhow.

for a foreigner, late May to late August, Poland can be an enjoyable place to visit.
convex 20 | 3,978
2 Apr 2010 #36
FUZZYWICKETS: if we're talking strictly from a tourist's perspective, i can't understand why a traveler would hate Poland.

If you have the mindset that you hate the place and the people before you even get on the plane, more often than not, your trip will only reinforce your preconceived notions about a place.
delphiandomine 85 | 18,254
2 Apr 2010 #37
FUZZYWICKETS: it's still zloties here

Ugh, don't say zloties, it sounds terrible!

(I'm from the school of thought that says Zloty is like Euro)

although they're not clean, PKP, trams/buses are reasonably priced,

Not clean? If you pay for EIC tickets, the trains are usually spotless. Even the worst PKP PR trains are no worse than some in Western Europe.

and regarding trams, most foreigners don't pay for tram tickets anyhow.

Most do if they can.
FUZZYWICKETS 8 | 1,883
2 Apr 2010 #38
Delphiandomine wrote:

Not clean? If you pay for EIC tickets, the trains are usually spotless. Even the worst PKP PR trains are no worse than some in Western Europe.

i don't care how they compare to the rest of Europe. PKP is a cheap alternative, but dirty regardless.
Exiled 2 | 425
2 Apr 2010 #39
Mostly women dislike eastern Europe.Men like it though.It was a fatal mistake to travel there with my girlfriend you hear them often saying.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
2 Apr 2010 #40
I rate the Polish trains reasonably highly. I've had to wait on more than one occasion, yes, but they do what they have to do. I have some yardsticks as the Scottish trains are pretty good and the Japanese ones, well, do I need to comment?

PKP Intercity is a nice way to travel. I should really go somewhere in Poland as the only international trip I have planned for this year is August back to Scotland. Maybe up to Poznań or to a local area near Żywiec. I love the scenery near Żywiec.
delphiandomine 85 | 18,254
2 Apr 2010 #41
FUZZYWICKETS: i don't care how they compare to the rest of Europe. PKP is a cheap alternative, but dirty regardless.

You've never been on an EIC train, have you? :)

I wouldn't call over 100zl for a 180km ride "cheap" - but the quality is excellent. Even the ride is exceptionally smooth, even on the wrecked track between Leszno and Poznan.

Overnight sleeper trains (especially the Szczecin-Przemysl one) are also of a very high quality.

Polish trains are very, very much what you pay for - if you pay for a cheap ticket on PKP PR, of course the quality will be rubbish. But if you pay for EIC trains, you'll notice the comfort, even down to the at-seat service.
dtaylor5632 18 | 2,007
2 Apr 2010 #42
Vladi: Why some travelers hate Poland?

I don't think it depends on the country, or Poland itself. But more to do with the experience the person has while being there.
convex 20 | 3,978
2 Apr 2010 #43
delphiandomine: I wouldn't call over 100zl for a 180km ride "cheap" - but the quality is excellent. Even the ride is exceptionally smooth, even on the wrecked track between Leszno and Poznan.

First class in the EIC seems comparable to second class in the EC/IC trains in Germany.

Definitely a step up though.
grubas 12 | 1,391
3 Apr 2010 #44
I don't know why some travellers hate Poland ,but this is why (among others things) I hate this country.
youtube.com/watch?v=hgDEjfx2JAI
Thousands of ppl stacked in traffic jams,only bcoz 1 azzhole wants to move his azz from one location to another.And they are the ones paying for this cirrcuss.But we are all equal,aren't we?Sqrwysyny.Make me a president and you may find yourself driving next to presidential limousine.You will not know it though,coz there won't be 1000 cops and ss dudes around wasting your tax money and the road will be open to everyone.
Polandforeigner 1 | 2
3 Apr 2010 #45
I have some polish heritage and decided to do a research paper on Poland for my college english class. Can someone whose been to poland and america explain some of the major cultural differences?

What is the land like over there?

What is the economy like?

Do most people have cars and electronics? is there a computer in almost every home with internet access?

What's the education differences?

Thanks!!

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