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OP renier8 4 | 24    
2 Jan 2018  #31

Thank you Kaprys,
I was planning on going on my own. Stay at Airbnb's and Couchsurfers to get some info and guidance as I go.
Trying to avoid joining a tourist group. If I do end up going, maybe go straight from Warsaw to Krakow and move around there.

I am surprised at what seems to be a reluctance to travel far for the Poles. I live in the capital of my country and the other two biggest cities from me are 700km and 1400km respectively. From what I can see on Google, it looks like Krakow is about 270km from Warsaw.

Trips like 300km for me to get to a place and stay there for two or three days would be quite acceptable.
Renier


DominicB - | 2,552    
2 Jan 2018  #32

In Ireland it was zero most of the time

Ireland is positively toasty in winter compared to Poland. Winter in Ireland is like Poland at the times of the spring and autumn that I listed above. In January or February, temperatures in Poland can go down to below -20 degrees Celsius. Toss in a good wind and you'll freeze your balls off walking to the corner store unless you are properly bundled up in (real) wool, (real) down and (real) leather, which are bulky, heavy and costly. I'm living in Vermont, USA, now and we're in the middle of a nasty cold snap. It's -20 outside right now. If I just want to go out on the patio to have a smoke, I have to bundle up.

I understand what you are saying. You want to experience winter and snow. But I also know how they can greatly inconvenience travel. Like I said, if you do come in winter, keep the traveling to a minimum and spend more time in two places rather than bouncing all over the place.
OP renier8 4 | 24    
2 Jan 2018  #33

Okay cool (no pun intended).

I will consider all the options. It looks like my country will take anyway a month or more to issue a visa. So if this trip is going to happen, it will probably be closer to March / April.

Thanks for all the help.
Renier
OP renier8 4 | 24    
9 Jan 2018  #34

Hello,
I have done much work on my plan based on some more input and reading on the web. This is the route and appropriate number of days per town:

ibb.co/n1P1hR

Your opinion and input will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you
Renier.
Chemikiem 4 | 986    
9 Jan 2018  #35

I am not sure if 3 nights would be too long for Krynica. It is a small town, but I guess you're visiting there to see some snow. Not sure how easy it would be to get around by road if you are still going in Jan/Feb and there is lots of snow. You mention driving there, are you hiring a car? If it were me, I would spend an extra night in one of the cities instead, but that's just my opinion and at some point you will have to make up your own mind about where to go!

Don't miss a trip to the salt mines when you go to Kraków :-

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wieliczka_Salt_Mine
Dirk diggler 6 | 1,672    
9 Jan 2018  #36

I am surprised at what seems to be a reluctance to travel far for the Poles

Poles actually travel a lot but more so abroad like to Turkey, Bulgaria, Egypt, Thailand, Spain, France, Germany, etc. Even like people who aren't making a killing like say your average taxi driver or maid will take vacations abroad since the tickets are cheap. A lot of Pol-Ams will go to Poland then buy tickets for a flight to another country to visit as its way cheaper.

Krakow is beautiful - it's the cultural capital of Poland. See Wawel Castle first and foremost.

Zakopane isn't too far either like 2 hours from Krakow and it's worth visiting especially if you're into mountains, winter sports,. It's like a Polish Aspen, Colorado or mini Basel without the watch industry.
OP renier8 4 | 24    
10 Jan 2018  #37

Hi
Thank you very much. It makes sense about the travel.
For us it is the other way around. Our currency is very weak.
I have plans to stay in Krakow for three nights.

Thank you
Renier
Dirk diggler 6 | 1,672    
10 Jan 2018  #38

Id stick with krakow zakopane warsaw and maybe wroclaw. Poznan lublin katowice and tri cities are okay if youre goung for a long time but id focus more on krakow and zakopame amd perhaps warsaw and wroclaw if u have more time. Chances are if youre flying from far away ull likely land in warsaw. Warsaw is pretty and its worth seeing the old quarter and perhaps palace of culture. Sadly ive been to warsaw like a dozen times and have yet to go inside the palac kultury. Theres a good bit of museums but its not like all historic like.krakow. warsaw is now reconstructed and looks like a modern gentrified hipster city. Krakow is probably the best city to visit as a tourist. Very lively college town lot of architecture and historical sites. The salt mines are cool. Auschwitz is close by too and its a memorial worth visiting. Then zakopane you can reach by train or bus. Wroclaw is closer to thr german border thats where im from. Theres maybe like 3 4 full days of stuff to see as a tourist the panorama is one of my faves, the zoo is cool, the rynek is great and an awesome meeting spot. Everyday theres like something new going on in.rynek which makes it fun if ur a local like one day theyll have a motorcycle rally another some sumo exhibition another like a concert thrown by some hair salon chain just random stuff.
OP renier8 4 | 24    
10 Jan 2018  #39

Thank you again for the information :-)
Much appreciated. I will build these factors into my trip..

Renier
Lyzko 18 | 3,829    
10 Jan 2018  #40

As apparently you don't know Polish, I second my colleagues and would probably stick with the main tourist areas such as Zakopane along with other well-traveled resorts where other foreign visitors tend to congregate and where the principle language will necessarily be English:-)

Although I've never been, what I've seen of Wroclaw from those who send me photos, it's just stunning!
OP renier8 4 | 24    
10 Jan 2018  #41

Thank you very much Lyzko. Appreciate the help.
Dirk diggler 6 | 1,672    
10 Jan 2018  #42

Although I've never been, what I've seen of Wroclaw from those who send me photos, it's just stunning!@ Lyzko

Next time you're in PL drop me a line and I'll show you some of the local sites. Honestly Wroclaw is good for like 3-4 days of sight seeing at most beyond that there really isn't much. Rynek is absolutely wonderful and has a restaurant that's apparently Europe's oldest and dates to the early 1200's. All the sites to see are either in the rynek or very close by like the cathedral and all the old churches. There's a palace that's also a museum that looks really nice from outside but ive never been in it. I like the panorama raclawicka and zoo a lot. There's also beautiful forests for hiking. The nightlife kind of sucks - there's one club called banana that we tend to go and then a group of like 4 clubs that are all in like this alley. Its a mix of locals, young tourists (a lot for Asia like Korea, China, few India, etc.), soccer hoolis and ukranians looking for fights, but its mostly 18-30. There's a few older people that will go that are 40 or even well beyond and they tend to just like sit at the bar and drink maybe sometimes the women will dance. There's a decent jazz club that tends to attract the older crowd. Oborniki Slaskie is close by and I like going there a lot. It's an upper middle class suburb with a mix of young commuters to Wroclaw, some international workers, and retirees that's about like 30 mins drive (or by train) from Wroclaw and it has a beautiful horse arena, nice restaurants, some hills for hiking, a huge pool that's totally filled with tons of babes in the summer months despite the disgusting green water and a lot of house parties that put the clubs to shame. The drive to Trzembnica is really nice too and there's a great pizzeria and small rynek .
Chemikiem 4 | 986    
10 Jan 2018  #43

Krakow is probably the best city to visit as a tourist

I would agree with that, it was the first city I went to in Poland, and for the first time visitor, there is loads to see and do. I've been back a few times since.

I also think Wrocław is well worth the OP visiting, it is a lovely city, and one of my favourites. Feel sorry for the OP now, all of our recommendations and he keeps changing his plans! Pity he's not going for longer as Lublin is another great city I feel is well worth a visit, I would personally choose it above Gdańsk.
OP renier8 4 | 24    
11 Jan 2018  #44

@Chemikiem
@Dirk diggler

Hello. Yes it is getting tricky :-) Everyone recommends something different and more things to see. But it is fun to plan to trip.
At the same time I don't want to spend half my time on trains and planes.

I will see if I can add a day or two.
Renier
Dirk diggler 6 | 1,672    
11 Jan 2018  #45

Stick to Krakow and Zakopane for now imo.... depending on how much time you have to spend in PL too...
OP renier8 4 | 24    
11 Jan 2018  #46

Thank you.
I will post an updated version of my route soon and would like your opinion again.

Renier
Chemikiem 4 | 986    
11 Jan 2018  #47

Stick to Krakow and Zakopane for now imo

The OP is in Poland for 2 weeks so I think there's time to see a bit more than 2 places. Not so sure about Zakopane myself as the OP doesn't want to go anywhere too touristy, but in all fairness unless he wants to spend time out in the sticks, every major city is touristy. I think if he limits himself to no more than 4 cities, that should give him enough time to get a feel for what Poland is like. I still think Wrocław and Lublin should be on the list though.




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