I never said that.
You did: "They have different ideas what marriage, family and happiness means."
That is what you say.
What I say is that Muslims are the same human beings like everyone else. Just like Catholics are the same human beings like everyone else, etc. etc.
And based on my knowledge about human beings, my observations and logical thinking I think I can safely say that majority of Muslims, just like majority of people on this planet, have similar goals in life - to have food on the table, to be happy, etc. etc. no matter what their religion tells them to do (or not to do).
pay no attention to the plank in your great,great, great X 30 father eye.
You know, the Sabra and Shatila massacre in Lebanon by Christian Phalange on Palestinians and Lebanese Shiites done virtually under the eyes of the Israeli army wasn't THAT long ago (1982).
Quite the opposite, the New Testament says that you don't bear responsibility for the sins of your father.
I'm not saying that you do but bearing in mind that Christians were wiping out whole continents and civilisations in the name of God I think Johnny should show a bit more restraint.
Meaning your examples of Christians doing this or that are irrelevant to this debate.
I disagree. It seems to me Muslims probably still have some catching up to do with Christians as far as the body count is concerned and the scale of atrocities.
I'm telling this to you.
Then I answered you :)
In Poland it mean nothing, you can do whatever the hell you want. Is not even a big deal - not so in other cultures.
Yes, exactly, that was one of my points. In some cultures people don't even have much choice - maybe they often have to pretend that they believe in this or that or that they agree with this rule or that rule. I remember watching a documentary in which one reporter was travelling in trains through different countries and talking to people. One episode was about Iran - and when the train would cross a border and get out of Iran women would take off their hijabs :))
This proves my point that all Muslims are not the same, they don't have one goal in life, as Johnny claimed - killing infidels. They're not Borg. If they were then all Muslim countries would wage a holy war on all "infidel" countries or all Muslims would blow all of us up in unison. And somehow it's not happening.
Your agnostic friend too.
Then they're both prejudiced and that was my point.
Paulina do you have brain? Are you able to think for yourself?
Yes, I do and I am able :) Now tell me - did you go to school and in what country?
Not that is the view on the issue in our culture. The same that gives you all those rights and privileges. Is not a question of my personal opinion.
Ironside, what are you talking about? Gregy741 compared Islam to Nazism and that agnostic Pole compared Christianity in the past to Nazism too.
You've concluded that both of them are raving idiots.
So what kinds of views on what issues in our culture are you talking about? And what rights and privileges have to do with it?
Did I call you names?
No and I didn't call you names either - I just stated a fact.
No, so you just proved my point.
Oh, what point this time, Iron? :)))
Are you telling me that there is no differences between the way women and men talk about issues?
You would have to ask blues_fan - there was a time when he thought I'm a man, because, as he stated, I write like a man (whatever that means lol) :)
Ironside, you wrote: "There is difference between incoherent woman talk
and a rational debate
Women are perfectly capable of conducting a rational debate.
My comments aren't "incoherent woman talk".
In fact, they are more coherent than yours are. Your debating skills are often poor, Iron, and it was pointed out to you before already (I think by roz and Atch). So it's the case of pot calling the kettle black.
But could we focus on the exchange of the actual arguments and discussing stuff like adults rather than commenting our debating skills and such, Iron? :)
And, please, refrain from comments like the one with "incoherent woman talk" and I won't "call you names" then.
Christianity doesn't preach that is OK to kill peeps.
Well, that's interesting. Then why were they killing in the name of God and waging crusades?
If they want to came to Poland to study I'm have no issue with that.
I'm happy to hear that :) What about johnny_reb though? He seems to have a problem with that...
'm only have issue with your misguided views on things.
And which of my views are misguided exactly?
That is not the point daughter.
I am not your daughter, grandpa :)
The point is that Islam sees it as a martyrdom and point to the heaven as a reward for blowing up a random bunch of people.
Iron, in case you didn't notice over 1 billion people aren't blowing up a random bunch of people.
I'm not defending Islam right now - I'm not an expert on this religion, I probably don't know enough about it to defend it or not, I didn't read the Quran.
All I'm doing is defending people against unfair generalisation and prejudice.
Over 1 billion Muslims won't blow us up just like probably majority of Poles don't refrain themselves from using contraception when having sex.
So - common sense and the will to live prevails.
Better than in most places.
Well, that would be nice...
No, the WWI coupled with the rebellion of Armenian minority.
The Armenian Genocide was "the Ottoman government's systematic extermination of 1.5 million Armenians". It doesn't matter whether it happened during a civil war, a war with other countries, or during an invasion of Earth by aliens from Mars or during an attack by mutant rabbits or orcs from Mordor.
Crimes against humanity are crimes against humanity - that was my point.
If you don't know how can you lol? Is that lol express your ignorance?
No, my "lol" expresses my opinion that it doesn't matter what kind of conflict it was. Genocide is genocide - no matter whether it happens during a civil war or a local war or a world war or interstellar war or if there is no war taking place at all. It's still a genocide, those are still crimes against humanity, etc.
Do we understand each other now? *very heavy sigh