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Overview of the WSGE university in Poland


shrenik shah Activity: 1 / 4
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17 Feb 2017  #1

can anyone tell me about wsge university in Poland ? reputation of university and value of the degree offered by them ?

DominicB Activity: - / 1,525
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17 Feb 2017  #2

@shrenik shah

There are other threads on this forum about that school. It is a fake school, and a degree from there is worth nothing.

It is a scam operation that takes advantage of gullible foreigners. The same is true for almost all private schools in Poland, and for programs taught in English at real state-run schools, with few exceptions. Again, with few exceptions, studying in Poland is generally a poor investment for students from non-EU countries who do not speak fluent Polish.

Ignore any hype you may see from university recruiters or on internet sites such as studyinpoland.pl. They are incredibly dishonest. Either study at a good university in your home country, or at a good university in a rich western European or English-speaking country, if you can afford it. Don't waste your time and money on Poland and the other poorer countries of the EU. While the tuition may be cheaper than in the richer countries, the degree you will earn will be essentially worthless, and will not help you find employment anywhere in the world.

Oh, and no. There are no part-time jobs for foreign students in Poland.
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17 Feb 2017  #3

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but I have paid all my fees . but after going there can I change my university of college or join a new and reputed college in Poland... ????
DominicB Activity: - / 1,525
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17 Feb 2017  #4

@shrenik shah

Then you flushed your money down the toilet. You can try and ask for it back, but you may have lost it. It's difficult and near impossible to transfer from a fake school to a real school once you come to Poland. And, like I said, there would be little point in doing that anyway, as degrees from programs taught in English are generally worthless, even from reputable Polish universities.

Best forget about Poland and make realistic plans to study elsewhere, such as at a good university in your home country.
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17 Feb 2017  #5

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ohk I got it . but plz give me some way to get out of it and what options I would have remain in Poland apart from this ?
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17 Feb 2017  #6

@shrenik shah

You could request your money back from the school, but that is about it. They might be nice enough to give it back, but, then again, they might not. There's really nothing much you can do about it. Well, at least you learned an important lesson, though it came at a high price.

Realistically, Poland is not a viable option for you, so focus on getting a quality education either in your own country, or, if you can afford it, in a richer country in western Europe or an English-speaking country. And study something that will get you a job, not something like business, economics, finance, law or international relations. Good fields to study are fields with lots and lots of advanced applied mathematics, like petroleum engineering, geological engineering, biomedical engineering, financial mathematics, financial engineering, econometrics and actuarial science.

The best predictor of your future earning potential is the number of advanced mathematics courses you have taken. We live in a technocracy, and math means money. Non-math graduates are in much less demand.
cms Activity: 9 / 730
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17 Feb 2017  #7

It is incorrect to say that this is a fake school. You can turn up there and take your lessons and get your qualification.

It is right to question the academic reputation of this place - but it has a building, teachers, classrooms etc.
DominicB Activity: - / 1,525
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17 Feb 2017  #8

@cms

None of that means that a degree from there is worth anything, though. It's fake in the sense that it does not engage in serious academics and award degrees that mean anything in the real world. You meant to say that it is not a mail-order diploma mill. In any case, it would be a total waste of time and even more money for the OP to study there.
cms Activity: 9 / 730
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17 Feb 2017  #9

Yes that is what I mean to say - that it is a bona fide organization, accredited by the Polish education authorities.

As for the usefulness then I broadly agree with you - but I could say that the other 2 universities in my home town are worse than my Alma Mater but its still just my subjective opinion. I have had some good employees from WS institutions in Poland.
DominicB Activity: - / 1,525
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17 Feb 2017  #10

@cms

WS covers a lot of territory. Some are serious. Most are not. Very few, if any, are viable options for non-EU students who can't speak fluent Polish.

Unfortunately, accreditation doesn't mean much in terms of the value of the degrees offered, as accreditation seems rather easy to get in Poland. Most degrees from English-language programs offered the state-run universities are essentially worthless,as well.
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17 Feb 2017  #11

can you tell me about Riga university of latvia ? reputation and quality ?
DominicB Activity: - / 1,525
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17 Feb 2017  #12

@shrenik shah

Same thing. It's a waste of time. The countries in Europe you should be considering are the UK, Ireland, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, the Netherlands, Belgium, France, Germany, Switzerland and Austria. In other words, the richer countries. The rest are pretty much a poor investment, especially the countries in the eastern part of the EU, including Poland and Latvia.
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17 Feb 2017  #13

Also, a degree in a field that does not require lots and lots of advanced applied mathematics is a bad investment even in those richer countries, unless you are a top student in a top program at a top university. A degree in finance from London South Bank (the worst university in the UK) would be next to worthless, whereas one from across the river at the London School of Economics (one of the top universities) would be worth a lot more. A degree in financial mathematics, on the other hand, would be worth very much.

Make sure that the field you are studying will actually help you get a high paying job, And don't believe any hype from school recruiters or internet sites. Like I said, the best measure of future earning potential is how much advanced applied mathematics you study. The second best measure is the reputation of the school you attend.



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