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Cousin stole my dads home in Poland...


delphiandomine 88 | 18,131
6 Aug 2012 #31
the answer is simple, we didn't know the cousin got the home until now.

How could you not know, given that Polish law was rather straightforward on inheritance until recently? As I said - I suspect your father couldn't have cared less until he realised how much his share was actually worth.

again, it's not about money at all, it's about keeping the families possessions in the family. value has nothing to do with it.

Sure. I bet you'd fight just as hard for a 2 roomed flat in Walbrzych. The fact that it's in a premium location with a premium value has *nothing* to do with it, really.

and for you negative people, we should have a court date by this monday; 2weeks after hiring a lawyer.

Oh boy. Your lack of knowledge about Poland is absolutely hysterical.

Of course they're positive, they're trying to win your business. They're hardly going to say "oh, well, you see, probably you won't win" are they?

Don't come crying on here about Poland when your case gets bogged down for years in trials, appeals, trials and so on.
polishmama 3 | 279
6 Aug 2012 #32
I wish you luck. But imo, I don't see how your case would win. Also, I am confused how you didn't know about the property issues. I mean, in all countries, when someone passes away, the inheritance is (at least started for) transfer. You would have found out asap what the will said. In fact, while in town for her funeral. May your Babcia rest in peace. I assume you light a candle for her for All Souls Day.

And unless you are speaking Polish, at least some words here and there, it's presumed (and most often correctly) that an English speaker using the word Polak is using it as a derogatory word and perhaps without knowledge that they are being very offensive.

Last note, it was confusing why you mentioned the location of the flat. I mean, none us care where it is, nor does it affect any legal advise one would provide. Perhaps, a type-o, yes?

Anyway, good luck. And don't say Polak, please. Let us know how your case goes. Will be interesting to see how it goes.
jon357 74 | 22,060
6 Aug 2012 #33
Something tells me we've only had part of the story here. I wouldn't be so quick to wish him luck.
jasondmzk
6 Aug 2012 #34
I don't wish him luck. A little ancestor worship goes a long way. You want granny's digs, you put in the work. Pick up granny's shopping, fill granny's prescriptions. Eat granny's bigos and smile with bones stuck in your teeth. Make granny a birthday card with glue and dry macaroni. That's how things are done, that's how property changes hands. You wanna swoop in, all craven-like, and call dibs once granny's six-feet from hello, then forget it. You'll never get that apartment. You'll never see grosz #1. And that's fine by me.
p3undone 8 | 1,132
6 Aug 2012 #35
Jasondmzk,If someone needs to be told to take care of their grandmother and not out of love but an ulterior motive;that's a sad state of affairs and I think they still wouldn't be deserved of the property in my opinion.
jasondmzk
6 Aug 2012 #36
I don't think granny's are dumb. They know people want they're property, money, and belongings. They also know they can't take it with them. They're human beings, and humans never stop looking for the best angle. She held out to the bitter end, and decided who was gonna get the "gold star", depending upon who impressed her most. And so she did.
p3undone 8 | 1,132
6 Aug 2012 #37
I think Granny's also know who love them.
jasondmzk
6 Aug 2012 #38
I've been on the receiving end of this, p3. It's not just a matter of love. There's lifetime of repressed angers, unrequited respect, and unrealized dreams that go into the Final Will and Testament. The key word there, is "Testament". They're saying something, by whom they reward. Whom they neglect to include is sometimes more salient than those they don't.
p3undone 8 | 1,132
6 Aug 2012 #39
I've been through it myself.I still think it's a sad state of affairs and had my grandmother been like that I wouldn't try to impress her at all.My grandparents left everything to their son and daughter.It was always understood that we would get a share;This never happened;I'm being completely honest with you when I say that my opinion of her did not change one bit.I was a little hurt but not angry because I understood that It was her property and money and She could do what she wanted with it.
jasondmzk
6 Aug 2012 #40
Yeah. Bottom line: You want something? Obtain it, yourself. No one owes anyone ANYTHING.
p3undone 8 | 1,132
6 Aug 2012 #41
Jasondmzk,I agree with you 100% on that note.You hit the nail on the head,no one owes anyone anything.It's sad to me how people can let money destroy relationships.Money does funny things to people;wouldn't you agree?
jasondmzk
6 Aug 2012 #42
Money equals options. And options are the freedoms we're all born pining for, and saluting flags for, and shooting and bombing for. It's not just the ability to buy color tvs, and A5 Audi's, money represents FREEDOM. For your family, and for their future. And that's a powerful incentive, dear gentle moderator.
p3undone 8 | 1,132
6 Aug 2012 #43
Jasondmzk,lol,I know this,it's still sad that people allow paper to cause strife;when in reality;it doesn't have to be that way,but ahh sigh,it is what it is.
polishmama 3 | 279
6 Aug 2012 #44
I like OP's name, btw. Konman123.
pantsless 1 | 267
7 Aug 2012 #45
No one owes anyone ANYTHING.

take care of their grandmother and not out of love but an ulterior motive;that's a sad state of affairs

my saying has always been that true altruism requires a healthy dose of selfishness. take it as you will
Ironside 53 | 12,422
7 Aug 2012 #46
Wow! Gifted fellow, did he run away with it>
pantsless 1 | 267
9 Aug 2012 #47
oh no, he's already busy moving into granny's house
misse911 - | 4
23 Aug 2012 #48
First of all a very basic Googling of the word "Polak" will show you it's very OFFENSIVE. Please use "Pole" in the future.

Po·lack (plk, -lk)
n.
1. Offensive Slang Used as a disparaging term for a person of Polish birth or descent.
2. Obsolete A native of Poland; a Pole.

Secondly, the will doesn't matter because your grandma gave away the property in full before she died. So unless you can show she was mentally incompetent - that's it. You have the right to give things away before you die and unfortunately that makes it final. Which is probably why your cousin got her to do that versus changing her will which could have been contested. My uncle did the very same thing but he only got half the house. Now we are locked into owning a house with him that he pays nothing to maintain.
TheOther 6 | 3,667
23 Aug 2012 #49
it's very OFFENSIVE

Much like Kraut, Wog, Paki, Frog, Pom and all the other expressions that are used on PF on a regular basis, so ... just relax.


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