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Pregnant Polish woman stabbed in Germany, loses baby


Intermarium 11 | 64
15 Jan 2019 #1
A pregnant Polish woman suffered life-threatening injuries and lost her unborn baby in a knife attack by an Afghan migrant at a hospital in Germany.

Police said an argument broke out at St. Marienwörth Hospital in Bad Kreuznach, west Germany, at around 6 p.m. on Friday, after which the 25-year-old victim was stabbed several times in the stomach.

breitbart.com/europe/2019/01/14/germany-afghan-stabs-pregnant-woman/[/url]
Lyzko 25 | 7,009
15 Jan 2019 #2
Terrific! This'll merely fan the flames of an already ungovernable national hatred of all Muslims, not to mention non-European refugees in general.
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,528
15 Jan 2019 #3
Not with me. I hated them before.
Oops, I am so sorry. I just realized that "hate" is not on the list of approved human emotions as published by the EU Ministry of Approved Feelings.

Can somebody, pleeeease, send me that list to assure future compliance?
Lyzko 25 | 7,009
15 Jan 2019 #4
And that's the crux of the problem! Why hate someone who never did you any dirt, except for being the unwitting pawn in continent's deadly game of cat and mouse?
mafketis 24 | 8,733
15 Jan 2019 #5
This'll merely fan the flames

Why are you more concerned with possible bad opinions about people with no ethical or legal right to be in Germany than against the victims of the crimes some of them commit?
Lyzko 25 | 7,009
15 Jan 2019 #6
I'm naturally concerned with both, Maf, only why does one exclude the other, this is what I still don't understand! Are not all of us human beings, albeit not always "equal" as people?
mafketis 24 | 8,733
15 Jan 2019 #7
Are not all of us human beings

Being a human being does not mean that a person is automatically good. Human beings often, as in the case of this Afghan, choose evil.

Related: Large scale unvetted immigration (a kind of limited open borders experiment by the German government) tends to overload local institutions leading to a drop in levels of trust in said institutions.

Supposed progressives in the US now want an open border with Mexico so it's worth remembering....
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,528
15 Jan 2019 #8
Related: Large scale unvetted immigration

People are not vette-able. Every criminal starts with murder 1 and no priors. That Afghani pos could be a virgin murderer like so many born in Europe and the US. That "vetting" is just an excuse to pacify the liberals by showing them that we do not reject migrants wholesale.

Not every Muslim killing scumbag starts with jaywalking, shoplifting and check kiting to be "vetted" and rejected.
Lyzko 25 | 7,009
15 Jan 2019 #9
So Maf, you also subscribe to the age-old notion of original sin aka we're all basically bad?
mafketis 24 | 8,733
15 Jan 2019 #10
all human beings have the capacity for good and evil... this particular person chose evil

and again, afghans and europe are not a good mix, the predominant values in afghan society is simply to different from those prevailing in Germany...

it's like a person trying to fly by flapping their wings - it's not gonna happen, just give up on the dumb idea already
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,528
15 Jan 2019 #12
Tell me you are joking. That post would suggest that there is moral equivalency between the most advanced societies in Europe and the primitive and barbaric whatever you want to call them in the Muslim lands. To suggest that these medieval death-celebrating people are just different from the white Christian is beyond reason.

That a-hole "chose" evil because he was raised that way, not because he got cold food and was furious that day.
Bratwurst Boy 7 | 10,426
16 Jan 2019 #13
Maybe we should only take in kids and women....and leave any young men from a certain age onwards out?

Right now it's nearly always young men, the strong ones. The ones which have the biggest agression potential...where every statistic says they are the group with the most criminal potential. And they are here without their families, without someone they respect to reign them in...

All these problems are all so logical and consequential...and nobody dares do change a thing!
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,528
16 Jan 2019 #14
Maybe we should only take in kids and women....and leave any young men from a certain age onwards out?

Only for a temporary stay and only the kids who are girls. Boys have this annoying habit of growing into men who, later, will kill and rape. They, men, come with the most powerful weapon they use to conquer the host: sperm.
Bratwurst Boy 7 | 10,426
16 Jan 2019 #15
Boys have this annoying habit of growing into men who, later, will kill and rape.

HEY!

*from boy to boy*
mafketis 24 | 8,733
16 Jan 2019 #16
Maybe we should only take in kids and women....

The men won't let them leave...

Right now it's nearly always young men

About time someone noticed.... too bad no one in the german government knows or cares.... (or is involved in ineffective campaigns to try to get them to voluntarily leave).

Large scale immigration from culturally different groups works only under conditions of assimilation of the children, not integration, assimilation. The parents will hate it but the kids will thank you and pass that on to their kids (who will pass on a watered down and neutered and toothless version of the culture to their kids).

Multiculturalism and immigration don't go together... unless the aim is to create a mostly unemployable underclass.
Tacitus 2 | 1,030
16 Jan 2019 #17
Right now it's nearly always young men,

This is not really true though, but a common misconception. Only approx. 56% of all recognized refugees are male, and far from all of them are young.

de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/452165/umfrage/asylbewerber-in-deutschland-nach-geschlecht-innerhalb-altersgruppen/

They are a large group no doubt, but not even the majority.
mafketis 24 | 8,733
16 Jan 2019 #18
Only approx. 56% of all recognized refugees

Is 'recognized refugee' someone who fulfills the requirements after vetting or just any rando who shows up at the border asking where the free house is?
Bratwurst Boy 7 | 10,426
16 Jan 2019 #19
They are a large group no doubt, but not even the majority.

Not really...in the "worst" age groups they ARE the majority (from your link):

16 - 18 Years 70,2 %
18 - 25 Years 66,2 %

and even

25 - 30 Years its still 61,9 %

And it is not a misconception that all bad news are about these young males. Nobody really wants them, not even their home countries. Why should we suffer?

I think a segregation at the beginning would make big headways towards supporting acceptance with the natives and also peace within the newcomer...after all most of their victims are still other immigrants.

We take them in, we feed them, we cloth them, they can go to school, find work, they get a chance of a life and what are they doing? They make everybody's life to hell...
Tacitus 2 | 1,030
16 Jan 2019 #20
Not really...in the "worst" age groups they ARE the majority (from your link):

Yes, but they are in the overall majority. Some people like to claim that 90% of all refugees are young males, which anyone who worked in a refugee shelter could refute.

Nobody really wants them, not even their home countries. Why should we suffer?

Because we are not judging 100ks of people on the actions of a few hundred?

I think a segregation at the beginning

You want to segrate hundreds of young people with nothing to do? That sounds a recipee for disaster.

They make everybody's life to hell...

A few of them might, but most of them are grateful for the chance we offer them.
mafketis 24 | 8,733
16 Jan 2019 #21
Nobody really wants them, not even their home countries.

Andrew Hammel had an interesting post (can't find now) that explained the probably source of many of them but you need to understand the particular morality of extended-family clan based cultures which is very foreign to modern Europeans to get it.

It was based on the frequency them doing grossly abnormal things (like masturbating in public) and the self-description of a couple of them in interviews - one said he'd always been the 'donkey' in the family so they sent him away

short version: In almost any extended family you're liable to find a young male misfit, constantly in trouble for doing stupid things, he's hard to manage and can't find (or keep) a job and all but impossible to marry off.

why not raise the money to send them to Europe?

worst case scenario - he perishes on the way (in which case you comfort yourself that he died trying to help the family so you can fondly remember him) or does something stupid and gets sent back (in which case you can send him away again)

middle case scenario - he disappears, at least he's out of your hair and can't get the whole family in trouble anymore...

best case scenario - he makes it and the journey knocks some of the stupid out of him and maybe he's even able to establish a beachhead and can send for and bring more of the family over safely

Like I said it's a very different mentality but if you understand the collective worldview that still dominates in a lot of the world it makes a certain sense....
Bratwurst Boy 7 | 10,426
16 Jan 2019 #22
You want to segrate hundreds of young people with nothing to do? That sounds a recipee for disaster.

Well...I have no better idea...to close the borders for all of them is the other alternative on the table.

I don't want to believe our gov really has resigned and just shrugs collectively their shoulders...that is no god given natural catastrophe and we shouldn't just sit and suffer and hope for better days!
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,528
16 Jan 2019 #23
Nobody really wants them, not even their home countries.

The definition of "garbage". In this case, human garbage, the kind that is worse than the normal garbage as that human garbage kills, rapes, and hates the host while taking his money with a smile. Like those two pieces of human excrement who gave us so much excitement in Boston in 2013. Also a classic example of white stupidity.
mafketis 24 | 8,733
16 Jan 2019 #24
I don't want to believe our gov really has resigned and just shrugs collectively their shoulders.

you're still in the stage of denial.... what does the government care? how does it affect them?
Bratwurst Boy 7 | 10,426
16 Jan 2019 #25
Many of them are scared shitless of the next elections for one....
mafketis 24 | 8,733
16 Jan 2019 #26
Will they find a way to keep AfD off the ballot in time? That's clearly what they want...
Bratwurst Boy 7 | 10,426
16 Jan 2019 #27
My hope is rather with a "reformed" CDU. AKK commanded a party internal "garage talk" (Werkstattgespräch?) about the migrant policies, concerning all decisions since 2015...guess who is NOT coming? Right...Merkel. Her time is running out and what her successor does is out of her hands soon.

tagesschau.de/inland/cdu-fluechtlingspolitik-103.html
Lyzko 25 | 7,009
16 Jan 2019 #28
"Garage talk"?

Unless you're being sarcastic as Berliners are known to be, you know that "Werkstattgespraech" simply means "workshop discussion", and does not refer to an actual auto or body shop!

:-)
OP Intermarium 11 | 64
16 Jan 2019 #29
Neither a reformed CDU nor the AFD are willing to go to the lengths necessary to prevent Germany from becoming a third-world country. At most they can slow the process down a bit.

I would hope that the people of Poland take note of what's going on in Germany, France, UK, etc. and will not be wooed by liberal political parties focused on short-term economic gains while selling out the country's future.
Behind
16 Jan 2019 #30
prevent Germany from becoming a third-world country

"Prevent"? It's too late already - the German / EU law considers killing an inborn 9-month old baby as an act of "illegal abortion." You cannot make it up but that's exactly what happened - the felon has been charged with committing an "illegal abortion" instead of committing murder. I would argue that in most cases he would be charged with murder in "a third-world country." So posters here overlook the elephant in the room which are the progressive laws that make the seemingly developed country like Germany fall far behind any third-world country.

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