No different than most nightclubs/danceclubs in Poland every weekend.
Are you f*cking kidding me?!!!
Are you saying that one woman (and even a 15 year old girl!) dancing in a nightclub/danceclub in Poland is surrounded by a group of 30 drunken men, immobilized and touched everywhere including on her crotch, terrified so much that she thinks she's going to be raped in the middle of the dancefloor and noone will even notice that or be able to help or that she's even going to die there? And then her cellphone and money are being stolen? And this, according to you, happens every weekend in nightclubs/danceclubs to hundreds of women in Poland?
Are you sick in the head?
I'm not making light of anything.
Of course you are. You completely downplayed it by comparing it to what could be happening in some danceclubs. What happened in Cologne resembles more what was happening in Tahrir Square in Egypt rather than in Polish nightclubs/danceclubs.
But I do think it's pretty f*ckin stupid that every refugee gets tarred with the same brush coz of the actions of some boozed-up idiots.
Then that's what you should write and not downplay sexual attacks on women that are regarded by Cologne Mayor as "monstrous".
You know, that's the problem I have with people like you. Such retarded comments. The same was with jon357 and his comment about Bavarian girls. In order to defend innocent refugees you're turning into misogynists or you're downplaying stuff or completely turning a blind eye. This is doing more damage than good and you're doing a disservice to refugees and immigrants in this way. Just like it was done in Rotherham and by German police and media after New Year's Eve attacks. You and the police and the media are viewed then as unreliable and not credible and this pushes people into the arms of far right groups and nationalist media.
If I as a woman got pi$$ed by one or two comments on an internet forum then imagine how German women must be feeling now.
And as for media and to back up what I just wrote - in the latest "Drugie śniadanie mistrzów" ("The Second Breakfast of Masters") that I've watched on TVN24 the host Marcin Meller said that his female acquaintance from Sweden entered some far right Swedish sites for the first time in her life... in order to get to know what happened in Sweden. The discussion starts at 33:55:
Also, Ilona £epkowska, a Polish screenwriter and writer, is saying there that she's not surprised by those attacks based on her and her daughters' experiences in Egypt.
And then the German media and the police were forced into line
I'm not sure if they had to be forced into line, to be honest, judging by what I've read from one guy I've been discussing for years on our Polish-Russian blog. Just to give you an idea who he is - he's a Polish liberal/leftist atheist. He's married to a German woman, he's a graphic designer and he's been living in Berlin for years now. He's very intelligent, well-travelled and well read. He wrote that Germans practice a kind of self-censorship. Not only politicians and the media but also many Germans.
But not everything is so hopeless with the German media, it seems. Last year I've watched this ZDF documentary, for example, "One Country - Two Worlds?":
ZDF is a public German TV station.
I would recommend watching this documentary to all those who seem to be wearing rose-tinted glasses and think there are no problems at all... And to everyone really, it's pretty interesting.
I'd just like to point out that sweeping problems under a carpet doesn't make those problems go away - those problems just grow bigger and bigger until you can't walk on the carpet anymore.
Here's another German documentary or maybe TV report:
It's about a German town (?) of 1800 inhabitants with 3500 refugees placed there. Inhabitants feel intimidated by groups of young men walking around. One woman says her daughter is afraid to walk the dog alone, she wants an adult to accompany her. Students have problems on the buses because a refugee center is near a school. But on a meeting of inhabitants of the town with the authorities one woman says that not only students have problems. She also has problems, she is being accosted and she's saying she doesn't want to be forced to fend off large groups of men.