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Penn and all I owe you an explanation... ref to Polish vs. British vs. American


Havok 10 | 912    
9 Mar 2011  #1
I was hoping that you guys would understand where Penn and I are coming from. I wanted to have nice logical conversation with you all to help us understand each other better but I failed miserably.

To be honest in order to survive here as a Polish person and not having to scrape the bottom of the barrel you need to learn how be vicious, cunning and competitive. I've met a lot of successful Polish-Americans over the years and most of them would share the same mentality. Polish hate us and Americans fear us, but why? I guess you can’t have your cake and eat it too.

Penn, don’t let them corner you, they get off on that.
Take care.
pgtx 29 | 3,160    
9 Mar 2011  #2
Polish hate us and Americans fear us, but why?

that's not true... yet another excuse...
OP Havok 10 | 912    
9 Mar 2011  #3
PennBoy should not have been suspended, and that's my vote.
pgtx 29 | 3,160    
9 Mar 2011  #4
who cares... he'll be back in no time... relax and enjoy the view...
OP Havok 10 | 912    
9 Mar 2011  #5
excuse for being a successful Polish that came out of slums?

@pgtx
already then
pgtx 29 | 3,160    
9 Mar 2011  #6
excuse...

no, an a$$hole in him...
:)

beside, barking dogs seldom bite....
guesswho 4 | 1,293    
9 Mar 2011  #7
Polish hate us

it looks (according to PF) that you're right about that

Americans fear us

what makes you believe it?
OP Havok 10 | 912    
9 Mar 2011  #8
beside, barking dogs seldom bite....

People get that way when they're cornered.

It's hard to explain how it feels inside when people who you try to represent turn on you. I guess I'm just yet another arrogant American. I'm good with that.
guesswho 4 | 1,293    
9 Mar 2011  #9
No you're not but some people are doing their best to make you that way. This is exactly what happened to PB.
OP Havok 10 | 912    
9 Mar 2011  #10
what makes you believe it

It's just my perception, not something i can verify, maybe because of my physique and how I talk.

No you're not but some people are doing their best to make you that way

This is exactly what I was trying to point out.
pgtx 29 | 3,160    
9 Mar 2011  #11
It's hard to explain how it feels inside when people who you try to represent turn on you.

oh, stop that... it's not a representation... nobody in a right mind would think that PB represent Polish Americans... it's just one guy who brags too much :)
OP Havok 10 | 912    
9 Mar 2011  #12
PB represent Polish Americans

You want it or not but that's what happens. You get tagged and people make assumptions based you, me and Penn about rest of the Polish.
pgtx 29 | 3,160    
9 Mar 2011  #13
well, it's their problem then... use your common sense...
delphiandomine 85 | 17,657    
9 Mar 2011  #14
I was hoping that you guys would understand where Penn and I are coming from.

We know just fine where he came from - he came from a line of Communist, collaborationist scum who fled Poland in 1988 just as it was looking likely that the Communists would be overthrown. And instead of admitting it, he's choosing to act like he's superior to Poles.

you need to learn how be vicious, cunning and competitive.

Rubbish. I know some Polish Americans who are doing just fine for themselves without being vicious, cunning and competitive.

That's just an excuse for acting like an asshole, nothing more.

Polish hate us and Americans fear us, but why?

Americans couldn't care less about you (as witnessed by the lack of participation in the VWP) and as for Poles? They've got no time for people who go on about being Polish, yet who live abroad and do next to nothing to actually improve Poland.

In PennBoy's case, hatred is understandable - he's the offspring of collaborationist scum.

(why was he banned? did he finally have the mental breakdown that was coming for days now?)
puella 4 | 172    
9 Mar 2011  #15
No you're not but some people are doing their best to make you that way. This is exactly what happened to PB.

Are you kidding?! Guesswho learn Polish maybe then you'll understand what PB have done yesterday. He should be suspended right then when he called me k*rwa and started to insult my mother without any reason (and it was just after that when I wrote that Harry should stop libel his family). He deserves all what he got. He is a terrible racist and an antisemite. He started to call Torq and Harry "jews"...

It seems he is an immature kido. If such people gratuate college in US it doesn't mean anything good about US education - he certainly haven't grown enough to have a diploma and represend any higher education institution. He is a disgrace for them.
delphiandomine 85 | 17,657    
9 Mar 2011  #16
He should be suspended right then when he called me k*rwa and started to insult my mother without any reason

He started on YOU?

Jeez, what a dick. I can understand him sending abuse in PM's to me and Harry (we've tortured him constantly about his family for days now, no wonder he snapped) - but you? What on earth did you (and Torq) do to him?
puella 4 | 172    
9 Mar 2011  #17
He started on YOU?

Yes. Check Random.

Today he started on pgtx and Marynka11 as well
OP Havok 10 | 912    
9 Mar 2011  #18
What on earth did you (and Torq) do to him?

I've read the whole thing and it was clear to me that you guys cornered him, pushed and pushed and he finally snapped. What did you think I was trying to explain?

I've realized that it's really difficult to say something just once for people here to understand it . So I was trying to lead you guys to the correct conclusions.

I think if dope gets it, we're on the right track now.
delphiandomine 85 | 17,657    
9 Mar 2011  #19
Yes. Check Random.

Bloody hell. Insulting you, your mother, your accent (if he was Polish, he'd know that Poles don't tend to have thick accents in English, unlike many other Slavic countries), over nearly nothing. What an utter baby.

I've read the whole thing and it was clear to me that you guys cornered him, pushed and pushed and he finally snapped.

Of course we did. He brought it on himself, though. And you can't blame people for picking on a racist prick like himself, especially one who was giving Poland a bad name. We tend to be quite defensive about our adopted country, after all.

So I was trying to lead you guys to the correct conclusions.

The correct conclusion is that PennBoy is an asshole - and we baited him, baited him and baited him until he got himself banned. Goodnight.
puella 4 | 172    
9 Mar 2011  #20
I've read the whole thing and it was clear to me that you guys cornered him, pushed and pushed and he finally snapped.

No. First I was telling Harry that this is all stupid, that he must be very bored, and the thing about Penn's (great) grandpas. Then Penn thanked me. Then I wrote that Harry should stop libel his family because he doesn't know them but then I've read rest of his posts and noticed that they are vulgar, racist and antisemitic (which I couldn't accept) so I decided to cancel my credit I gave him by editing content. I wrote that if Penn wants to thank me he'd better shut up. I also mocked his higher education because I feel that his language and behavior doesn't become to a person with higher education (his behaviour was below any level of decency). He started to call me and my family vulgar names. Note I did not use any offensive term towards him. I didn't curse. I didn't participate with all that rage. But he crossed the borders with me and I feel that he should be suspended for that for good.
In Warsaw - | 48    
9 Mar 2011  #21
The correct conclusion is that PennBoy is an asshole

One nil delph.
JonnyM 11 | 2,622    
9 Mar 2011  #22
The nasty PMs threatening violence didn't help. And it wasn't just the row about the collaboration/lustration/prostitution stuff, there were issues on other threads too.

Some of the stuff he wrote was twatty, some wasn't.

I almost feel sorry for him, really.
delphiandomine 85 | 17,657    
9 Mar 2011  #23
The nasty PMs threatening violence didn't help.

What is it with trolls on this forum threatening violence towards people?

I almost feel sorry for him, really.

I feel sorry for him for the fact that it looks like his parents have never told him the truth about what his family was doing - his almost utter naivety about what his father would had to have done is staggering.

Kinda obvious that he was bullied at school, though.
OP Havok 10 | 912    
10 Mar 2011  #24
I didn't participate with all that rage. But he crossed the borders with me and I feel that he should be suspended for that for good.

Having a guilty mind? Well done Mrs. instigator.

What is it with trolls on this forum threatening violence towards people?

you drive people nuts dude. Come down a little. Say something that makes sense once a while and you're going to be alright.
delphiandomine 85 | 17,657    
10 Mar 2011  #25
you drive people nuts dude.

Yep, true. I've got a particular knack for upsetting self righteous keyboard warriors.

Not one of them has taken me up on the offer of a fight yet :(
OP Havok 10 | 912    
10 Mar 2011  #26
I believe it's more about not making much sense most of the time and then strongly insisting on those assumptions being correct.
In Warsaw - | 48    
10 Mar 2011  #27
Say something that makes sense once a while

Or alternatively just post racist abuse-filled bile like your great buddy PennBoy.

Don't you two know there's already a forum for your kind? stormfront.com You'll fit right in there (as long as you don't tell people you're of Polish blood).
isthatu2 4 | 2,708    
10 Mar 2011  #28
Aye,pennboy was a bit of a tosser,but he could be fun sometimes. ganging up on one person Im afraid never covers anyone in glory,just comes across as cheap imho.
In Warsaw - | 48    
10 Mar 2011  #29
Depends whether the cunt in question was a racist traitorous coward who made pointless threats of violence his specialty or not.

Anyway, the mods/admin have apparently decided that violent racist abuse is A-OK for this site so that's that.

If anything the story now hangs together much better for sale to a British/American tabloid. Now we have a British-owned magazine about Poland which describes the commandant of Auschwitz as a local hero and an American-owned website about Poland which allows posters pretending to be Poles to send violent threats and racist abuse to people. What a cracking story about foreign media misrepresenting Poland and Poles. Or to the British media 'what racist scum Poles are, deport them all now!'.
OP Havok 10 | 912    
10 Mar 2011  #30
your statement is racist. Why are you so bent out of shape?

I'm thinking wtf is wrong with you dude. seriously. more so you come off psychotic.


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