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The factors that caused the fall of the Soviet Empire


hammock
18 Oct 2015  #1
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There were numerous factors that caused the fall of the Soviet Empire...

You are right. But those who payed the biggest price were those who lost their liefs and most of them happen to be Muslims mujahedins.
Sparks11 - | 335
18 Oct 2015  #2
I'd say it was the 10's of millions of Russians who died over decades many Muslims in the 'stans to be sure but mostly white Russians who suffered the most.
OP hammock
18 Oct 2015  #3
Should Russia, as it is now, be allowed to enter the NATO and the European Union because of that?
Sparks11 - | 335
18 Oct 2015  #4
Because of what? Joining NATO or the EU is a possibility for any country as far as I understand. If Russia would choose change some things I suppose it could, in the future.
OP hammock
18 Oct 2015  #5
Because of price the Russians payed. If you lost the context.
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,467
18 Oct 2015  #6
Europeans and Americans

And Poles! JP2, Wałęsa, Brzeziński and Kukliński all played a significant role in the collapse of the Evil Empire. Non-Poles who contributed included Reagan, Thatcher, Bush Sr and Gorbachev
Sparks11 - | 335
18 Oct 2015  #7
Of course Poles! Some of the biggest figures in the parade of important people who brought it down :)
OP hammock
18 Oct 2015  #8
It makes then 8 people altogether - not many.
Lolek222 - | 80
18 Oct 2015  #9
most of them happen to be Muslims mujahedins.

That is the biggest nosense I have had heard in years.
OP hammock
18 Oct 2015  #10
Once again read Brzeziński's own words: the secret operation [against the Soviet Union planed and put into practice by Brzeziński] was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it? The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter. We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war. Indeed, for almost 10 years, Moscow had to carry on a war unsupportable by the government, a conflict that brought about the demoralization and finally the breakup of the Soviet empire.

It was during the 80'. And who fight then. Do you remember?

The actual fighters on the ground were Mujahedins. Saudi Arabia financed the whole thing, Americans sold weapons and Jimmy Carter's national security adviser, Zbigniew Brzezinski, turban on his head, shouted: "Allah is on your side." - these are the words of Tatiq Ali. You can find this and more like this information in Harry Kreisler's program, available on youtube: Conversations with history, and the interviewee in one of his hundreds of programs was Tariq Ali.
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,467
18 Oct 2015  #11
Zbigniew Brzezinski

Whether we like it or not, all of history and current politics is about tactical alliances, intrigues and secret deals. One's enemy's enemy is one's temporary ally until one of the sides does a bout turn.
InPolska 11 | 1,821
18 Oct 2015  #12
Absolutely, Pol, in politics (and in business) there are no friendship and no love.


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