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Roman Polanski accused of unlawful sex with a minor



delphiandomine 87 | 15,827    
15 Nov 2015  #91

What makes me laugh is that the usual suspects on here were so quick to condemn and insult Polanski, but they were absolutely silent on the issue of Duda stealing from the country.


Polonius3 1,019 | 12,554    
15 Nov 2015  #92

condemn and insult Polanski,

Maybe you think Roman P. (that's how lawbreakers are named in the Polish media BTW) should be praised, extolled and idolised?
InPolska 11 | 1,825    
15 Nov 2015  #93

Yes, Doug, main problem for Poland: Polanski is Jewish. I have heard several times in Poland that Hitler had not finished his job.... No comment!
delphiandomine 87 | 15,827    
15 Nov 2015  #94

Maybe you think Roman P. (that's how lawbreakers are named in the Polish media BTW) should be praised, extolled and idolised?

I'd rather we let the courts deal with it, which they have done.

Politicians shouldn't be commenting on legal cases.
jon357 70 | 12,786    
16 Nov 2015  #95

Absolutely. It's a matter for the courts not mob rule.

When politicians (look at Tom Watson in the UK) comment about such cases it's nearly always more about them than the good of society.
G (undercover)    
16 Nov 2015  #96

"Polański being Jewish, it is "normal" that most Poles want to destroy him."

Ah usual nonsense... yeah, we're just about to get him, turn into sausage and eat.

BTW Polański is a famous Jewish director and a disgusting Polish pedophile :))))
mafketis 16 | 4,721    
17 Nov 2015  #97

Polański being Jewish, it is "normal" that most Poles want to destroy him

I think it's "normal" that people don't much like someone who admitted anally raping a minor. What does religion or ethnicity have to do with it?

I think the best justice is to keep him in France (since they want him) afraid to cross any international borders for the rest of his life. Much more fitting than a show trial would be.
jon357 70 | 12,786    
17 Nov 2015  #98

It leaves a nasty taste, doesn't it. Though enough people buy (or used to buy) records by Jerry Lee Lewis, not to mention the Rolling Stones. With Polanski, it's the perception that he's fled justice that adds to it.

I agree, a show trial would add nothing, and after all, the victim has said she wants an end to all this.
Polonius3 1,019 | 12,554    
17 Nov 2015  #99

she wants an end

One wonders how lavishly her palm has been greased!?
jon357 70 | 12,786    
17 Nov 2015  #100

Not at all apparently. She's written about it in the past and now says she wants to hear no more about it.
Roger5 2 | 1,450    
17 Nov 2015  #101

He made a point of apologising to her, and she considered his apology to be sincere and forgave him. I thing there's something about that in the Christian religion. Pity there aren't any Christians around we could ask.

Like I say, it's a pity there aren't any Christians around.
mafketis 16 | 4,721    
17 Nov 2015  #102

she considered his apology to be sincere and forgave him. I thing there's something about that in the Christian religion

Separation of church and state, legal processes are not influenced by the private religious beliefs of those involved.

Like I say, it's a pity there aren't any Christians around.

Would you trust your teenage daughter to be alone with him?
Ktos 9 | 332    
17 Nov 2015  #103

And some Polish were defending him, where is this US citizen's defence and why aren't you crying bloody murder for Polanski?

Those Polish who are defending him do not represent Polish population, they are in minority, usually it is Polish Jews who are defending him. The majority of Polish people are disgusted with him. I would like to see him stand at a trail in Poland.
mafketis 16 | 4,721    
17 Nov 2015  #104

I would like to see him stand at a trail in Poland.

Assuming you mean "trial" and that's insane. Crimes are tried in the country they were committed in and Poland has no standing in the case. I don't think he should be extradited to the US (per the wishes of the victim herself) but I find it very fitting that he has to look nervously over his shoulder any time he steps outside of France. His art does not make his moral failing okay or make him a victim. He made a bad choice and he should live with the consequences for the rest of his life.
Ktos 9 | 332    
17 Nov 2015  #105

Insane? You went too far. Yes, you are right in that crimes should be tried in countries they were committed in but Polanski is Polish and we could have a case in making him stand trial in Poland. The reason why I would like him to be tried in Poland is that Polish judicial system is better than American, Polish have judges deciding trials not some street collected group of a handful of people from the community of thousands or millions that is said to represent that community, how ridiculous. It is a mockery anyway, because in US system it is the judge who ultimately decides the case, but only judge is in charge whereas in Poland it is a number of judges making the decision making less bias and more informative than in USA.
jon357 70 | 12,786    
17 Nov 2015  #106

Crimes are tried in the country they were committed in and Poland has no standing in the case

Indeed. And there has already been a trial

He made a bad choice and he should live with the consequences for the rest of his life

This is certainly what has happened.

He's had an odd life, with his parents dying in the camps, his pregnant wife being hacked to pieces and the sex thing.
mafketis 16 | 4,721    
17 Nov 2015  #107

He's had an odd life

The suffering he endured in no way justifies the suffering he inflicted (just being clear, I'm sure that's not what you intended to suggest).
Roger5 2 | 1,450    
17 Nov 2015  #108

No, mafketis, I wouldn't let him alone with my cat, but I don't see the point of hounding him to his grave. It's not as if he's a revered priest who has spent decades abusing his position for his sexual gratification while preaching the opposite.
jon357 70 | 12,786    
17 Nov 2015  #109

sure that's not what you intende

Not really, just that he's had a life of tragedy and we don't actually know all the details, except as presented by a prosecutor.
Polonius3 1,019 | 12,554    
17 Nov 2015  #110

he's had a life of tragedy

Everyone has their misfortunes and tragedies but Polański also enjoyed a life of affluence and luxury, enjoying the celebrity limelight and hobnobbing with fellow snobs and giltterati. Shouldn't such privileged ones try to set a good example for average citizens?
Harry 79 | 13,413    
17 Nov 2015  #111

Shouldn't such privileged ones try to set a good example for average citizens?

You mean like the child of affluent parents who gained a good place at a university known to put connections ahead of ability, and then transitioned into a job where his main salary was paid by the Polish taxpayer but who responded to the generosity of the Polish taxpayer by defrauding us by charging the cost of his flights to Poznan on weekends when he was lecturing at a private university to us?

On the plus side for Duda, at least he hasn't tried to interfere with the judicial process involving Polanski, which is more than one can say about his boss.
johnny reb 13 | 2,456    
17 Nov 2015  #112

It is a mockery anyway, because in US system it is the judge who ultimately decides the case, but only judge is in charge whereas in Poland it is a number of judges making the decision making less bias and more informative than in USA.

In the U.S. the judge decides weather a law was broken according to statutes of the law.
Statutory rape is spelled out very clearly.
Roman admitted to statutory rape which is performing sexual acts with a minor in which in this case the minor was 13 years old.
The decision is not made by a bias judge but by what the statute says.
And then ad to it that Roman stated that the judges and prosecutors themselves think of having sex with young girls.
That really helped in strengthening his case to thumb his nose at the judge and prosecutor.
The law reads that even if the minor victim (under 16 years old) gives permission for said sex acts the statute still has been violated.
The sentence in the USA for that is anywhere between 5 - 15 years in prison.
Roman did 90 days or less didn't he ?

whereas in Poland it is a number of judges making the decision

And just what kind of sentence do you get for raping and sodomizing a thirteen year old girl in Poland ?
jon357 70 | 12,786    
17 Nov 2015  #113

Everyone has their misfortunes and tragedies

Not many of us have our pregnant wife hacked to death by the Manson Family, but hey, a misfortune and definitely something we could all take in our stride.
Harry 79 | 13,413    
17 Nov 2015  #114

And just what kind of sentence do you get for raping and sodomizing a thirteen year old girl in Poland ?

That rather depends on whether one is a priest or not.
rozumiemnic 9 | 3,328    
17 Nov 2015  #115

or indeed employed by the BBC.
Time to stop and think about the references to the RCC and child abuse, it was hardly unique was it?
johnny reb 13 | 2,456    
17 Nov 2015  #116

Not many of us have our pregnant wife hacked to death by the Manson Family, but hey, a misfortune and definitely something we could all take in our stride.

Oh jon stop the pity party accuses.
Many have suffered just as bad in their past yet they don't use it for a crutch to justify breaking the laws.

it was hardly unique was it?

Rozumiemnic.......I would hate to think what you may have done if some sick perverted puke had done that to your thirteen year old daughter.

I am not even going to ask you to respond as I already know he answer.
jon357 70 | 12,786    
17 Nov 2015  #117

Many have suffered just as bad in their past

Not that many at all

yet they don't use it for a crutch to justify breaking the laws

Nor does he.

Though it would be naive to suggest it didn't affect him in some way and worth reminding, that he was tried in a court of law already - yet some here seem determined that the trial should happen again for their own gratification.
Harry 79 | 13,413    
17 Nov 2015  #118

he was tried in a court of law already

Was he? I thought he agreed a plea before the trial.
jon357 70 | 12,786    
17 Nov 2015  #119

All part of the court process and hearings within the past decade while he was under house arrest.
Ktos 9 | 332    
17 Nov 2015  #120

And just what kind of sentence do you get for raping and sodomizing a thirteen year old girl in Poland ?

Surely not some lame 90 days. Those defending Polanski ought to be kicked out of here. He used his celebrity status to seduce a minor, and he knew very well what her age was. At the age of 16 the brain is still developing, even at 24 it is in many cases in process of growing, and so Polanski abused the girl's right to be left alone. The age difference between the two is also an issue (Polanski in his 30s) as the much older person holds a certain psychological advantage over the much younger person and can, therefore, manipulate the latter into behaving or thinking certain way.




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