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Roman Polanski accused of unlawful sex with a minor


johnny reb 49 | 7,093
30 Nov 2017 #331
A personal relationship with a dead person is a religious idea

I guess you haven't heard, He arose again on Easter Sunday from the dead, the biggest miracle ever.
He is Alive my son which is called Faith for your eternal salvation come Judgment Day.
Therefore Christianity is not a religion.
The reason you don't understand this is because you still live by the worlds laws (mans laws), I live by spiritual laws (Christ Jesus laws).

I am a Believer, you are not and that is where your confusion comes into the picture.
mafketis 37 | 10,886
30 Nov 2017 #332
I guess you haven't heard, He arose again

Yeah..... here's the thing. I don't beleive any of that. And there's no tangible or compelling physical evidence for any of it..... soooooo..... religion it is.
Paulina 16 | 4,366
30 Nov 2017 #333
Guys, don't start a discussion about religion in yet another thread - it's beyond off topic in this thread.

Yes it is, stop being in denial "Roman Polanski accused of unlawful sex with a minor"

The thread title is wrong and I think it should be changed:

"Polanski gave her both champagne and Quaalude, a sedative drug, and despite being asked to stop, he performed oral sex, intercourse and anal sex upon her. The grand jury returned an indictment charging him with rape by use of drugs, perversion, sodomy, lewd and lascivious act upon a child under 14, and furnishing a controlled substance to a minor"

It has nothing to do with "underage prostitution". Besides, "unlawful sex with a minor" also doesn't automatically mean "prostitution" o_O So I don't know why teenage prostitution in Poland and Ukraine in 2017 is being discussed in a thread about a rape of a 13-year-old girl at the end of the 60's in the US.
Paulina 16 | 4,366
30 Nov 2017 #334
"at the end of the 60's in the US."

70's, sorry
Lyzko 45 | 9,417
30 Nov 2017 #335
@Johnny, now don't go playin' holier than thou and make me believe you never ever once in your life didn't get a hard on over some adolescent walking wet dream!! This is Lyzko you're talking to, pal! If you say, yes, that's not called anything other than normal. However, in your mind's eye is where it begins and ends.

And might I remind you of that traditional Swiss folk tune: (in English roughly translated) "Oh, thoughts,they are free, and no one can guess them...."

You start arresting folks for what's going on in their minds, that's dictatorship.
johnny reb 49 | 7,093
30 Nov 2017 #336
Just because you are being accused of such immoral thoughts don't being using my name with yours Mr. No Manners !

Are you thinking or mentally fantasizing about 15-year-old girls, Lyzko?

It apparently seems so dunnit !

Guys, don't start a discussion about religion in yet another thread - it's beyond off topic in this thread.

And what does he do in his very next post. lol
You are wasting your breath with him Paulina, I have told him the same thing at least three dozen times this year yet he continues to bait with such ANNOYING remarks yet never seems to get 'O' Warnings or ''B' Warnings or 'T' warnings like he is guilty of all three in his above post.

Thanks for trying though Paulina as if enough people keep telling him it just might sink in.
Paulina 16 | 4,366
30 Nov 2017 #337
@Johnny, now don't go playin' holier than thou and make me believe you never ever once in your life didn't get a hard on over some adolescent walking wet dream!!

Johnny didn't ask you that question, I did. To answer yours - no, as an adult I've never been aroused and never fantasized about a 15-year-old. I gather by your comment that you did?

I'm not advocating for people to be arrested for their thoughts. I was simply curious.
So, Lyzko, what is the lower end of the age bracket for you? What about 14-year-olds? 13? 12?

It apparently seems so dunnit !

Yes, I suspected that for some time based on some other stuff that he wrote on this forum. That's why I asked. I guess my gut instinct didn't fail me once again.

You are wasting your breath with him Paulina

But Lyzko didn't write anything about religion here. Ironside, mafketis and you started that discussion.
johnny reb 49 | 7,093
1 Dec 2017 #338
What I was referring to, you ask us to stay on topic and the very next thread Lyzko goes right back Off Topic AGAIN.
I don't know how many times I have ask him not to trash my threads by going off - topic and he just perpetually ignores my requests as if he were stone deaf.

Yes, I suspected that for some time based on some other stuff that he wrote on this forum.

That and every time a new young female joins the P.F. he is all over her like white on rice if you haven't noticed.

I laughed so hard when the latest Polish girl joined us (kaprys), who is smarter then a whip, told him where to stack his bottles.

And that's what you flooded my pm box with -35 messages within several days until I had to block you.

Ouch !

I guess my gut instinct didn't fail me once again.

Nope, you were right on as it is not normal for an adult Jewish American married man with children to send a Polish young woman that he has never met 35 private messages trying to impress her with his Google translate pretend Polish tongue.
Lyzko 45 | 9,417
1 Dec 2017 #339
The question was asked and answered. Once again, and it's easy to lie about who posted what, the thought in and of itself does not a perve make; it's the action which does! Or are you all members of the thought police as well:-)
gumishu 13 | 6,140
1 Dec 2017 #340
don't worry Lyzko - when I was younger I had really perverted dreams and imagination - it's a complicated story but I sort of grew past it (or more elloquently transcended it)
DominicB - | 2,707
1 Dec 2017 #341
the thought in and of itself does not a perve make; it's the action which does!

Sending 35 unwanted private messages went way beyond the realm of thought and deep into action territory. Sorry, Lyzko, but there is something deeply troubling about that.
Lyzko 45 | 9,417
1 Dec 2017 #342
I'm sure you did, gumishu. It's comforting to know that:-)All fine and well to have a "perverted imagination", as you put it, incidentally! Only, let it remain in the imagination...not to mention, the boudoir for safe keepingLOL

Oh, I agree Dom! Anyone who send texts, aka SMS on such topics, by my very defintion, becomes a pervert, since this is publically acting upon a private fantasy!

Think everyone here can see that.
gumishu 13 | 6,140
1 Dec 2017 #343
Sorry, Lyzko, but there is something deeply troubling about that.

It's easy to judge, much more difficult to direct the person to a way out of their perceived disorder Dominic - it's true that sometimes the ways are beyond belief and acceptance of the person in question as it is true that sometimes people choose to ignore your advice because they believe they are perfectly all right even when your advice is not outlandish at all
gumishu 13 | 6,140
1 Dec 2017 #345
Oh, I agree Dom! Anyone who send texts, aka SMS on such topics, by my very defintion, becomes a pervert, since this is publically acting upon a private fantasy!

I have heard nothing about you stalking anybody Lyzko especially from the first hand - even if I did I would much prefer to offer you advice than to judge you
WielkiPolak 56 | 1,008
1 Dec 2017 #346
Since there has been so much talk about age of consent in this topic, I had a look at countries from around the world. Some are quite high, some are very low [like 9, 10 or 11].

Bahrain is the highest at 21 apparently, while the lowest is Saudi Arabia, where there is no minimum age. There is a condition that you have to be married, but there is no minimum age for marriage there, so it seems a man could theoretically marry a 1-year-old and, well, I can't even bring myself to say it.

Some countries were much lower than I expected, such as Canada, where it is 12, if certain conditions are met, although I don't know what those conditions are [it isn't marriage].
gumishu 13 | 6,140
1 Dec 2017 #347
Bahrain is the highest at 21 apparently, while the lowest is Saudi Arabia,

isn't strange that Bahrain and Saudi Arabia are in the same cultural group and are almost neighbours
johnny reb 49 | 7,093
1 Dec 2017 #348
it's easy to lie about who posted what,

Thank goodness for archives which blows that statement out of the water.
When children are not mentally and emotionally mature is the reason why it is against the law for a mature person to stalk children for sexual gratifications to fulfill a personal sexual fantasy.

The words "self control" seem to get lost in the equation with the end results of a child losing their innocents and scarring them for life.

If the punishment was automatic physical castration for such a crime the perv may think twice before he committed such a self serving vicious sick act on a child.
Dirk diggler 10 | 4,585
1 Dec 2017 #349
@WielkiPolak

Yemens is also low while south Korea's is very high like over 20

Muslims merely follow the middle age paedophilia of their 'prophet' liberals tell us we have to accept this, but God forbid Catholics reject things like gay marraige or abortion
Lyzko 45 | 9,417
2 Dec 2017 #350
Again, Johnny, you're not in charge of the Thought Police, are ya? Big Brother may be watching, he sure as heck ain't inside our heads, thank heaven, or all of us would have been royally flogged or worse during Puritan times!!

Our thoughts are our own, especially when posted anonymously, not to mention, not at all:-))

Think back to the movie "Cape Fear" where the lawyer protagonist goes to the local sherrff and asks that Cady be locked up for what seemed to have been on his mind concerning harming the lawyer's wife and daughter. "Hell, Mark!", the sherriff continues, "I cain't lock a man up for what's on his mind, that's dictatorship!"

Sort knocks your statement into a cocked hat now, doesn't it.
Paulina 16 | 4,366
2 Dec 2017 #351
The question was asked and answered.

Well, my question wasn't exactly answered, actually. You responded with a question.
So, Lyzko, are you thinking or mentally fantasizing about 15-year-old girls nowadays?
Yes or no? That's a simple question.
I'm not a member of "the Thought Police", I'm simply courious about human nature, as always. I'd like to know the male perspective on this, so to speak :) It seems pretty relevant for this topic.

Lyzko, I've also asked you a second question that you haven't answered: what is the lower end of the age bracket for you nowadays? 14-year-old girls? 13? 12?

when I was younger I had really perverted dreams and imagination - it's a complicated story but I sort of grew past it (or more elloquently transcended it)

I suspect everyone did to some extent, but Lyzko is an elderly man, as far as I understand, so I guess he can't grow past anything anymore :P
z,z,z,z
2 Dec 2017 #352
You guys are straight elitists. You think your forum is only meant for like minded individuals. Why do you keep banning me and deleting my posts and limiting free speech which you claim you are for all the time on this forum? Just because what I say disagrees with your notions of the world and society in general? I cana dvocate whatever zi want but unless I do it and you have proof or unles sits illegal which girls 15 and above here isbnt why limit my free speech?
zzzzzzz332
2 Dec 2017 #353
I posted this quetsion or multiple wuestions all rolled into one on the ls wikipedia talk. And want you guyss opinion if ukraine was really a unique spot in time and place where it worked in the open or was it geniuses visionaries and individuals who made it happen where it would have worked everywhere or at elast in poland badk then! and can my idea od nudes 15-17 or possibly non nudes but cleavage work with the same or similar structure but ages above 15?

ibb.co/hFQCQG

Here is a question I have, I cant get answers on polishforums.com because they just start yelling at me and banning me like a collective group of monkeys. I recently was deported back to Poland but grew up in the u,s. since I was young. I always wondered why this company worked in ukraine at the time but why didnt it spread to poland or why didnt anyone in poland do something similar? the girls are just as hot if not hotter here and many esp in small villages are super slutty, just go get an app called gadu gadu and losuj or search based on age. many have half naked (sya in bikini) and some naked front pics on the app and some show photo nudes and claim to sell more for money but I dont know if it is legit or a scam or cops - theyre usually 16. But would or could it have worked in Poland instead of Ukraine back then or alongside Ukraine? before 2004 Poland had almost no **** laws as well before they got accepted to eu. there was no law. believe related to photographing or modeling and esp not above 15. even now the aoc is 15.

Another questions: could such a business be restarted in Poland but with girls 15-17 and pics taken from gadu gadu profiles or having them send them to you or possibly pay you. Or would it be braking privacy laws? but if the Ukrainians were able to do it for three yrs breaking all sorts of laws and not be arrested why couldn't it work in Poland even now and eps with girls above 15 so above aoc here? Basically did no one at the time have balls in poland to try it or did it require corruption and contact with bribes to cops to begin with and as it happened a group in ukraine had everything in place to make the business happen while in Poland they were busy with other things or scams and just not thought of it?
zzzzzzz332
2 Dec 2017 #354
There is even a wordpress site that claims to have the sets available for download all out inm the open clear web (just like the ukrainians were) so dould I do somethingnwith wordpress here in poland that wouldnt work in the west or u.s. but in poland? or would i have to turn badk time to before eu 2004 to do it and get rich and have fun all the world over and be admired and looked up and showcase photography and site building skills?

lsbarbie.wordpress.com/category/ls-studio-picture/

btw i wouldnt downlaod any of the content but its ur risk, i havent yet just ran into thr site with a google search of the ls studio. but its there and no images or nothing is shown just visiting it so even in us it should be legal?
arek335
2 Dec 2017 #355
Here is more info about the whole operation and the inside scoop so to speak on what the ukrianians were able to do and get awya with and get rich off of:

ibb.co/gcOozb

ibb.co/gF7gKb

ibb.co/fEXRkG
jon357 74 | 22,054
2 Dec 2017 #356
my idea od nudes 15-17

Illegal.

so dould I do somethingnwith wordpress

Best not to do it. Find a new hobby that doesn't involve child pornography.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,862
2 Dec 2017 #357
it's not 'child pornography' it's 'child sex abuse'
jon357 74 | 22,054
2 Dec 2017 #358
The two are not mutually exclusive, Roz. Above all, it's vile. That and dismal to read about here.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,862
2 Dec 2017 #359
yes they are Jon. If it involves a child, then it is abuse, not 'pornography'. Think about it.
Paulina 16 | 4,366
2 Dec 2017 #360
Maciek, your posts weren't deleted, they were simply moved to Random Chat.

I cana dvocate whatever zi want but unless I do it and you have proof or unles sits illegal which girls 15 and above here isbnt why limit my free speech?

So what are you advocating for exactly? Because I'm lost already...
What are your views that "disagree with our notions of the world and society in general"?

Or would it be braking privacy laws? but if the Ukrainians were able to do it for three yrs breaking all sorts of laws and not be arrested why couldn't it work in Poland

According to Polish law, if you want to publish photos of underage people you have to ask their parents for permission. Also, in case someone agrees for their photos to be published, she or he (in case of underage people it's their parents) has to agree to the way and the context in which the photos are going to be used.

If you're going to post nude photos, especially in sexually sugestive poses, then the site will get shut down, just like the Ukrainian site was, so I don't really see a point in starting it in the first place, tbh.

If you want to publish photos of girls in clothes then you'd have to have a permission of parents of every single girl from GaduGadu or wherever.

Furthermore, you don't even know if those girls would want to have their photos to be shown on a public site for everyone to see. Have you even asked any of them whether they would be interested? You're wasting so much time asking the same questions again and again and you don't even know whether they would be interested in anything of this sort. *sigh*

i havent yet just ran into thr site with a google search of the ls studio. but its there and no images or nothing is shown just visiting it so even in us it should be legal?

Then how did you find that wordpress blog or whatever that is? I suspect it was made during the time when LS Studio was still operating and those download links are probably expired already.

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