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Radek Sikorski, Polish Foreign Minister, tries to annihilate Polish Slavic identity


slavia
6 Jan 2012  #1
"Poland has to choose which model is the safest - a unification where every country has fewer prerogatives, or a return to an archaic model of a concert of powers," Mr Tusk told parliament last month during a fiery debate about the eurozone crisis. Or as Mr Sikorski put it recently, Poland is changing locations while staying in the same place. It was in eastern Europe in 1989 when communism ended, it became central Europe by joining the EU in 2004 and now the goal is to make Poland a part of Germanic northern Europe: punctual, hardworking and fiscally sober."

One more time:

" It was in eastern Europe in 1989 when communism ended, it became central Europe by joining the EU in 2004 and now the goal is to make Poland a part of Germanic northern Europe: punctual, hardworking and fiscally sober."

ft .com/cms/s/0/c362b6d8-3573-11e1-84b9-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1ifoMfVnV

That's it. Sikorski wants to eradicate 1000 years of polish Slavic identity to become another germanic clone. The same happened to Finland, now they don't have any native culture - everything is "swedenized".
JonnyM 11 | 2,621
6 Jan 2012  #2
You say 'Sikorski wants' while forgetting that Poland chose Sikorski. There's ample chance - every election year in fact - to choose some dodgy Panslavic alternative.

Anyway, what has 'slavia' ever done for Poland?
Wedle 16 | 496
6 Jan 2012  #3
There's ample chance

Time to get to Work.
Harry
6 Jan 2012  #4
The same happened to Finland, now they don't have any native culture - everything is "swedenized".

I see that you have never been to Finland and have never met any Finns.
Wroclaw 44 | 5,389
6 Jan 2012  #5
punctual, hardworking and fiscally sober."

seems good to me.
joepilsudski 26 | 1,389
19 Jan 2012  #6
Hitler wanted the same thing...Sound good to you?

Sikorski & Wife Anne Appflebaum
JonnyM 11 | 2,621
19 Jan 2012  #7
.Sound good to you?

Better than the alternatives. It isn't self-sufficient like the US, it has too many neighbours to be in "splendid isolation" like the UK used to be (and too much of a ready export market for its products) and its eastern neigbour is too much of a loose cannon not to form a friendly alliance with its western one.
uusi - | 1
9 Apr 2012  #8
So it means that all that what Sikorski wants to annihilate (lack of punctuality, laziness and tax eviction) is, for you, a valuable and indispensable part of Polish Slavic identity?

I feel pity for you.
pantsless 1 | 267
9 Apr 2012  #9
Hitler wanted the same thing...Sound good to you?

Ah yes, Hitler's famous 1933 diary entry, where after having a particularly bad day dealing with his Polish plumber and seeing all the money blown away by Poland's goverment on yet another pointless shopping spree (happily it wasnt on armaments), Hitler personally noted he wished for a "final solution" at seeing a "punctual, hardworking and fiscally sober" Poland and wrote that he would personally come to Warsaw to make it happen.
Nickidewbear 24 | 567
21 Mar 2014  #10
Incidentally, wasn't Sweden a part of Scandinavia, anyway?

joepilsudski: Hitler wanted the same thing...Sound good to you?

Assuming that you're not joking, I venture to say that, that was at least poor wording on Sikorski's part. Assuming that you are, I'm telling you that you have a poor sense of humor. For relatives of Holocaust victims and survivors, and Soviet victims and survivors, there's nothing funny about it.
polishguy18 - | 5
21 Mar 2014  #11
Why isn't Polska taking advantage of the enormous Russian market? Poland should play all it's cards not pull certain favorites.
Nickidewbear 24 | 567
21 Mar 2014  #12
Eh...Putin, for one matter. Its Jewish population, for another matter-and ethnic Poles think that they have to put up with Germany and Russia? As my cousin Boleslaw wrote -and he was a Poylisher Litwak, "Germany hosted us well for 5 years so that we could not walk".

He respected the Poles, though. "Poles were shot or hanged for it. And the Poles used ration cards for it, 10 kilo of flour for bread, for one month, a little bith of potatoes and milk from the diary place." He made quite sure to distinguish himself from the Poles, though. As for Stalin (Putin's political "predecessor" [read: "word for the predecessor who influences the heir, and I can't find that word"]), he had this to say:

"But in 1945 a horrible storm came: the Russian front. We had no place, we dug out a shelter in the ground, and whatever we had for clothes and for living we dug it in the ground (uncertain whether they hid it or used it while in the shelter). We had two horses, three cows, four pigs, six sheep and a dozen "birds" (uncertain of the word, but guessing birds meaning chickens), we chased it all into a barn, and we hid in the shelter."

The point is that Polska knows that Polacy and Żydzi have shared similar sufferings at the hands of Germany and Russia, and the Żydzi have suffered all the more. So, Polska has to pull certain favorite cards. Also, many Żydzi with Poylisher and similar (e.g., Litwak roots are watching the situations in Russia, Ukraine, etc. at least to some extent; and Polska knows that.
peterweg 36 | 2,316
21 Mar 2014  #13
Poland does export billions of Euros worth of food to the Russian Empire.

However, when you are dealing with a mafia state, they can stop you exporting as a method of control and pressure. When you have fresh food with no other immediate customer that puts you at their complete disposal.

For instance, the Empire recently banned Polish Pork after a couple of dead Boar were found next to the Belarus border, the fact that these had come from the Empire was immaterial, its was a convenient excuse to punish Poland. Other 'health reasons' have been used by the Empire to ban Polish food exports.

Having your sales cut off at short notice will destroy a producer; exporting to Russia is a sure fire way of doing that, hence Poles are not interested.

As for Stalin (Putin's political "predecessor" [read: "word for the predecessor who influences the heir, and I can't find that word"]),

Mentor?

Although Hitler maybe a strong influence too, the invasion to 'protect fellow Russian's/German's' is a carbon copy of Hitler in the 1930's.
gregy741 4 | 1,207
21 Mar 2014  #14
Sikorski is madman,he got some mental issues that for sure, .this guy said that after PO won election that people from opposition are need to be slaughter "dorzynamy watache"

he is arrogant narcissistic weirdo with very strange past.spent years in Afghanistan probably as CIA spy.i cant stand him
evilclown
21 Mar 2014  #15
Germany and Russia have nothing to do with Poland's anti-Semitism. In the 15th century Lithuania was the first to expel Jews and confiscate their property when Prussia and Muscovy were both baby statelets.

Poland plays the same games with Russia, poking her for a reaction. In the case with Polish meat, I remember it had something to do with Poland's refusal to allow Russia to buy something that used to belong to it anyway. Integration is the only way, but Poland plays the role of a spoiler for a great big power that does not want to ever give up its throne to Europeans.
AdamKadmon 2 | 508
21 Mar 2014  #16
In the 15th century Lithuania was the first to expel Jews and confiscate their property when Prussia and Muscovy were both baby statelets.

You are counting on an ignorant public of idiots!
Crow 141 | 7,546
21 Mar 2014  #17
We live in era of globalization. Sometimes we can choose how would THEY globalize us, sometimes we can`t. Sometimes we miss the opportunity to react and THEY turn us from Slavs into the slaves

Merged: Support of former Polish FM Radek Sikorski for former Serbian FM reveals `Sarmatian connection` ?

an interesting article incites me to an interesting conclusion. Possibility or rather necessity.

This should be interesting to all who follow Polish and global politics. From the Sikorsi`s interview to Belgrade daily Politika..

Poland's ex-FM: Jeremic among best candidates for top UN job

Source: B92, Politika Monday, February 15, 2016 | 15:03
b92/eng/news/politics.php?yyyy=2016&mm=02&dd=15&nav_id=97050

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Vuk Jeremic

"I had the pleasure of instructing Poland's permanent representative to the United Nations to vote for Vuk Jeremic when he was a candidate for the post of president of the UN General Assembly. I think that he ranks amongst the best and most serious candidates for UN secretary-general."

You remember this man, Vuk Jeremic, young diplomat with promising career, former Serbian FM, former president of the UN General Assembly and candidate for UN secretary-general.

In any case, these kind of articles would become more and more often and more and more viable, at a time when Poland invest tremendous effort to regain its independence and consolidate Her power.

former Polish FM Radek Siroski

Anyway, this is the thread about `Sarmatian connection` and about unimaginable maze of global politics.
Ziemowit 12 | 3,374
16 Feb 2016  #18
Vuk Jeremic when he was a candidate for the post of president of the UN General Assembly.

It would be a major success for Serbia if Vuk Jeremic was chosen the UN secretary-general. Are there any other candidates for this top position, Crow?
Crow 141 | 7,546
17 Feb 2016  #19
What i know there are candidates from Bulgaria, Germany, Britain, Slovenia, Croatia.

Speaking of candidates from Eastern European block countries, only diplomat that till now acquired Polish and Russian support at the same time is Serbian former FM Vuk Jeremic.

Radek Sikorski, Polish Foreign Minister, tries to annihilate Polish Slavic identity

i didn`t get that impression.


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