Pubs in Poznan kick out Roma?

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bar kicks out gypos, shocking!

Usually it was the other way around.

Are you, perchance, one of those people who thinks that Hitler had the right idea with regard to Romani-related issues?


No need to ask you that question: you obviously are.

The authors of this article should brush up on history. Comparing noisy and disruptive Romas, to the situation of Jews during Nazi time is just unfair to the Jews. Being lynched based on belonging to a certain nationality is not comparable to just not being let into a restaurant based on earlier bad experiences of the owners. I fully understand the club owners, they have businesses to run...

There is a big Gypises community close to where I live, they had been there for decades. Given the amount of crime they commit I think Polish are very tolerant.

So you have no excuse for not knowing that it started with state sanctioned discrimination.


People who say things like "Given the amount of crime they commit I think Polish are very tolerant." are cretins.


You should be grateful: now that almost all the Jews have gone, you Poles need other people for your famous pogroms.

My brother-in-law lives in Kędzierzyn-Kożle where there is in Kożle an unhealthy concentration of gypsies. Social-wise, crime-wise.
Nobody knows how they earn a living - apart from plundering the town's meagre social budget.

Perhaps you would like to send them to one of those camps that Poland is so famous for?

Those are the people who made bad experiences with Gypsies.


Yeahh, not letting disruptive people in a restaurant is exactly like pogrom. Did you even bother to skim a history book?

And seriously, go get laid. That might relieve the tension.

Doubt it, this just highlights the problem Poland has with anyone but themselves. As I've said many times before, given Poland's history you would think they would be more tolerant. Unfortunately it seems that some Poles credit the Nazi's views far too well.

Have you read the article? In what was that man being disruptive? In what way were the people in the video being disruptive.

Racist cretins like you illustrate one of the reasons why the Nazis built all of their deathcamps in Poland.

Not really. I only see what kind of problems gypsies cause. I hear the stories from first-hand experience. They simply have no morals. They are social parasites posing as "refugees". In my native Flanders there are massive problems with them in simply every place they concentrate.

And yes I think many Poles are antisemitic into their very core...but "these camps" were Nazi death camps.Important difference.

Yes, despite Poland's best efforts to change that.


I don't need to prove that (some) Poles are racist: you have already proved that with your comments. And the subject matter of the article shows that you are not the only racist Pole.


Your own words or are you quoting Nazi party propaganda there?

There was no "Devouring" over here but Pikeys are still a nightmare in bars and pubs any that arnt flea pits tend to have "polite" No Travellers signs in the windows.....Work behind a bar during a Pikey wedding and then try to still stay all liberal and happy clappy on the subject.

Is it going to be a child like argument?

H: You are racist cretin
M: No, I'm not.
H: Yes, you are (blowing raspberry)

For the sake of piece in kindergarten I will say, yes, I'm Polish racist. (I've learned that from my grandparents who hid a Jewish man in their cellar for 2 years during WWII)

You are clearly a racist: your comments about Romani people demonstrate that very clearly.

we all know Poles like to "keep to themselves". That's why we're so homogenious, and attract so many 'white power' kooks. It's more credible to defend that stance than deny it.

Before I have even said anything you have already discredited what I "may say". Cheers i thought educating you might have been a little tricky, but by your conspiracy comment you have already shown how single minded you are.

Sorry, I was a little sarcastic. Go ahead, educate me.

Yes Harry, based on that comment, I believe that Hitler had the right idea and that gypsies should be exterminated.

Anyway, back to reality, a good number of the folks that we ended up having to throw out of our place in Prague were gypsies. Just how it is. Plenty of places in Prague also don't allow British stag groups either, also intolerant I suppose...


Disagree with you there. There are quite a few bad apples disproportionate to the size of the population...but it's not a problem with their race, but rather the culture (which is due to a number of reasons...but we won't get into that). It's a pretty vicious circle of discrimination and reaction, just depends on what part of the circle that you start at when looking at the problem.

Questions answered,one sentence.
Edit after reading Harrys link to the artical....
So,the Roma have no "form"? It seems there isnt the excuse that Roma are known to start huge fights or smash windows or generally run riot like the (non Roma) irish pikeys that we get then...Have to agree,smacks of pure rascism...."they leave tables untidy and are dirty..." How pathetic an excuse. Maybe a helpfull sign like " Nur fur Polen" might be handy...

Surely there are anti-discrimination laws that would cover this blanket ban type of thing anyway - no?


Oh no no no - you can't say that you know ; )

(Although kind of ironic using the term when you talk about racism in almost the same breath)

: )

I wouldn't think it's possible, that I would live long enough to experience that but...
I am agree with Harry.
/ strange feeling, really

Teffle,they are Irish,what else do I call them? They are not Roma,or Sinti etc,not even Gypsies.
The racialy Roma people I know have nothing to do with them.
So no,when white irish tinkers are responsible for dispraportianatly so much crime its hardly rascist for one (part) irish white man to call another white irish man anything is it.

To the OP: Interesting that this whole topic is started by an anonymous Jew -Those discriminating Poles.
One Roma refused service not exactly worth all that hype; after all it’s not like a state sponsored discrimination in Israel and elsewhere against Palestinians and Arab minority or any minority, is it?

For the Yanks:
Speaking on behalf of US government Condoleezza Rice in 2008 suggested that Palestinian refugees who are seen as nothing more than Gypsies by Israel and US alike could be resettled in South America, Chile and Argentina to be exact. If you want to be seen as great humanitarians, why not your own country? Discrimination of entire people by US government is nothing new and what about their fundamental right to go home? You’re all just a bunch of hypocrites. What about Native Americans that are refused service in restaurants and bars in Southwest all the time, being seen as drunks all the time? Yes I've witnessed it myself or any other group? You sure have plenty to choose from there.

The Brits:
Don’t you have your own problems with pikes? I think all of you are familiar with that subject no matter what part of Britain or Ireland you hail from.

Everyone else who would screen bloody murder:
Italy in 2008 declared a state of emergency due to the presence of Roma, and evicted thousands of them. Didn’t France announce it would round up and expel illegal Roma immigrants and destroy hundreds of their encampments? Germany is in the process of repatriating thousands of Roma to Kosovo. Now we know true reason why they were in favor of Kosovo split from Serbia. I remember something about Roma caravan chased out of Flanders in Belgium. Etc.

Like Stalin have said:
One death is a tragedy; one million just a statistic.

Conveniently left out of the Original Post....


Even though the local police failed to act in this case, it seems it is being addressed by the PL government. So can we say clearly that racism towards the Roma is completely acceptable / tolerated by all Poles?

Shame, cos it seems some posters on this site would prefer to act like the victim but still claim the camps were for them only.


Of course not, some have brains.

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Most certainly not.

From pubs to concentration camps in two easy pages. Gotta love verbal assocation...

LOL. Mind you I know a few pubs that make the transition in nano seconds.