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Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom?


Olga 1 | 330
20 Apr 2010 #901
How Kaczynski "assasination" would influence it? It may only increase Poles favor to host US shield. Russia has the opposite aim.

How? By getting rid of the staunchest supporters of it, i.e. less opposition to overturning it.

And by getting rid of the staunchest supporters (i.e. the President and his key players), it will be much easier to subdue the next president with fear and intimidation (who wants to end up like Kaczynski?), thus fulfilling Russia's aim. Psychology 101.
Jed - | 165
20 Apr 2010 #902
How? By getting rid of the staunchest supporters of it, i.e. less opposition to overturning it.

Just read your article lower:
"Last month Obama scrapped a plan agreed by his Republican predecessor George W. Bush to install a controversial anti-missile system in the two neighbours." - it's about those SM-3 for 2015.

Thus, the problem is currently not existing. No reason for mads in Russia to kill somebody.
Olga 1 | 330
20 Apr 2010 #903
"Last month Obama scrapped a plan agreed by his Republican predecessor George W. Bush to install a controversial anti-missile system

Yes, the shield (long-range) was scrapped which was meant against possible attacks from the middle east .... but NOT the patriot missiles (short-range), which are solely meant as security against Russia. You're spinning yourself into the ground and don't realize it. lol ;)
delphiandomine 85 | 18,254
21 Apr 2010 #904
Bullsh*t--remind yourself of the tanks in Georgia, please...("I will crush you like a bug...")

Yes, because Georgia is small, weak and insignificant. And let's not forget - Georgia may very well have started it.

wasnt LK big on cutting off this dependancy?

Not overly so, as there really is little to nothing that Poland can do about it except pay the going rate. I don't know how the communist central heating systems work - but if they're gas powered, then Poland's hands are tied.

Quit wasting space for jabs—and pull the stick from your ass. Capiche, baby?

Answer the questions.

Why do you think the TAWS system didn't work?
What kind of portable ILS system do you think the Russians used and then removed?

The answer "evil Russians" isn't good enough.

And by getting rid of the staunchest supporters (i.e. the President and his key players), it will be much easier to subdue the next president with fear and intimidation (who wants to end up like Kaczynski?), thus fulfilling Russia's aim. Psychology 101.

Do you honestly think that PO members (many of whom are experienced men from the days of the 1980's) are afraid of the Russians in the slightest? Don't be ridiculous! They're certainly savvy enough to realise that business can be done with Russia, but they've got nothing to fear - the fact that Tusk even negotiated the purchase of Patriot missiles tells you that they're not afraid to do what they want irrespective of what Russia wants.

Don't forget that NATO, numerically, is much stronger than Russia these days.
Jed - | 165
21 Apr 2010 #905
ut NOT the patriot missiles (short-range), which are solely meant as security against Russia.

See my post #858 - the circle is closed now.
Olga 1 | 330
21 Apr 2010 #906
it's about those SM-3 for 2015.

Thus, the problem is currently not existing.

Jed, see link headlines in posts # 901 & 904. End of discussion.
MyPolonia - | 13
22 Apr 2010 #907
Was Polish president murdered??

Was Polish president murdered??
See these two videos and you be the judge.

mypolonia/videos/id_80/title_was-president-of-poland-murdered/
mypolonia/videos/id_81/title_polish-plane-crash-truth-video/
plk123 8 | 4,150
22 Apr 2010 #908
isn't there enough of these threads already? couldn't you have just posted this junk in one of the many others??? seriously man????
southern 75 | 7,096
22 Apr 2010 #910
Was Polish president murdered??

No,he died from natural causes.
LwowskaKrakow 28 | 431
22 Apr 2010 #911
Was Polish president murdered??

The Polish Extreme right( Radio Maria) loves this theory of a KGB/Russian plot against the former Polish President, nonsense but the Extreme Right always cherishes the idea of persecution, it helps them getting votes...
Olga 1 | 330
22 Apr 2010 #912
Absolutely, but you'll never convince most of the cretins on here to consider anything but the Russian propaganda version. They're THAT naive to think that an investigation dictated by the perpetrators will yield the truth. Good on you for keeping this going.
king polkacanon - | 57
22 Apr 2010 #913
I am a Russian propaganda victim unfortunately.They washed my brain and I believe it was an accident.
nomaderol 5 | 726
22 Apr 2010 #914
Poor pilot.. he probably had to listen to his command 'land down now!' of the president.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
22 Apr 2010 #915
Murder would be very difficult to prove in this case. This is what some powers wanted, oh, Russia is this and that. However, murder is a serious allegation and needs a very high level of proof.
richasis 1 | 420
22 Apr 2010 #916
Olga, I'm beginning to think you see a conspiracy here... :)
Seanus 15 | 19,706
22 Apr 2010 #917
I agree that a more independent group should carry out the investigation but we can carry out our own investigations. Why must we follow the conclusions of one group? They are just people after all.
Mata Hari - | 6
22 Apr 2010 #918
Jane Burgermeister was right about the swine flu, wasnt' she?

mypolonia.com/videos/id_81/title_polish-plane-crash-truth-video/
Jed - | 165
22 Apr 2010 #919
Who is this paranoid lady on the video? Is it Polish TV?
Is it you, Olga? :)
f stop 25 | 2,513
22 Apr 2010 #920
you'll never convince most of the cretins on here to consider anything but the Russian propaganda version. They're THAT naive to think that an investigation dictated by the perpetrators will yield the truth. Good on you for keeping this going.

most agree that you are one of the biggest cretins here.
Why wouldn't we listen to Russian reports? That's where the accident happened... we should listen to who? Swedes? wait for the Polish version, which will probably come after the presidential election?? Oh, wait, we should listen to YOUR version! LOL
Olga 1 | 330
22 Apr 2010 #921
Why wouldn't we listen to Russian reports?

"Russia Today in propaganda war of words and images"
digitaljournal.com/article/286048

"Russia Today correspondent quits over censorship"
blogs.rnw.nl/medianetwork/russia-today-correspondent-quits-over-censorship-of-his-report-from-georgia

"Russia Today could not have been created without help from the government, which has earmarked some $30 million to get the station off the ground...raising fears that the station will turn into a Kremlin propaganda machine."

rferl.org/content/article/1059159.html

Would we want criminals conducting their own trials? (In your warped little world, the answer would be "why not?")

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