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Is it possible that Polish president was assasinated? If so then, by whom?


MediaWatch 10 | 945
16 Apr 2010 #482
Harry,

I'm not saying I believe or don't believe this.

Just something I found.
Jed - | 165
16 Apr 2010 #483
Polish words - "Change of Plans."

Some people even hear something about America in English, you "heard" something in Polish. It happens when you trying to hear foreign language you don't understand.

I Russian and heared only Russian words: F*ck - several times from camera holder and distant voices - "davai suda = go here" - most likely for the emergency cars drivers. And "go back" - to the occasional people on the accident place.

As for shots - most likely it is your fantasy. But you may ask witnesses - there were a lot of them, not only Russians, Poles too.
MediaWatch 10 | 945
16 Apr 2010 #484
Well actually I didn't say I heard anything.

I just posted the article from HenryMakow.
henrymakow.com/katyn_ii_-_how_satanists_say_w_1.html

I only made brief comments at the end.

If people disagree with the article, that's fine.

I heard that the Poles who had camera's and cell phone camera's, who were already up there waiting for the plane, were told by the Russians not to use them after the plane crash.

Is that true?
Olga 1 | 330
16 Apr 2010 #485
the globalist Masons

satanic and globalist enslavement

Both highly unlikely.

This is basically what I've been trying to say all along. But I guess some will still say "Maybe it was wood cracking" or "maybe it was flares going off" or "maybe it was Kaczynski's bodyguards' ammunition exploding in the fire", meanwhile in the background of the video someone is heard saying "dawaj gnata."

Seventy years later, on April 10, 2010, the heirs of the NKVD, who still run Russia, probably finished the job.

*nodding*

Thus they neatly eliminated one more obstacle to Satanic world government which is descending on the planet like a dreaded darkness.
This is how Satanists say, "We're sorry!" By repeating the outrage, again and again, until they are finally stopped.

*ahem* Don't you mean "Stalinist?"

As with the 9-11 passengers, it is possible the occupants were taken off the plane somewhere else, held or murdered. On Saturday, Russian authorities said all bodies had been found. On Monday the story had changed.

It was conspired, but you veered off the path with 9-11 and kidnapping nonsense
You still bellieve what Russian authorities spoon-feed you, even after hearing "dawaj gnata?" and this?:

The plane was Russian and had recently been "refurbished" in Russia.

and this?:

The Russians claimed the pilot didn't speak Russian which turned out to be a lie.

Cults are always on the lookout for such devotees.

Another said the fog appeared just before the landing and quickly dispersed afterward.

Fog was not the issue it was made out to be as shown in prior video on previous post, but here it is again in case memories need refreshing:

...

A Polish observer wrote: "Given the unlikelihood of Poland's top political and military leaders flying on the same plan, the execution or kidnapping of some of them in Poland cannot be ruled out.

Obviously. I couldn't have said it better myself...
Jed - | 165
16 Apr 2010 #486
I heard that the Poles who had camera's and cell phone camera's, who were already up there waiting for the plane, were told by the Russians not to use them after the plane crash.

Is that true?

It's better to ask them about - even if yes, arguments could be different. It is not a show for gapers I would say.
Olga 1 | 330
16 Apr 2010 #487
I see the propaganda peddlers are out in full force, as usual. Here is the photo of how Polish authorities were held back:



Seanus 15 | 19,706
16 Apr 2010 #488
Media Watch is right to sow the seeds of doubt. So many different interpretations have emerged, though, and this undermines the case. I think I will show very clearly here that I'm not a hardline conspiracy theorist, I just reach conclusions based on 'best-fit' evidence. Foul play is looking more plausible but I still think that the official line is far more solid than the disparate threads flying about.

9/11 official line? Insulting and bogus! One of the most blatant examples of tampering ever!
Olga 1 | 330
16 Apr 2010 #489
It is not a show for gapers I would say.

Nor for any witnesses, for that matter, as is clear from the video MediaWatch is referring to:
...

So, Seanus, was I on to something? ;-P
Jed - | 165
16 Apr 2010 #490
I see the propaganda peddlers are out in full force, as usual. Here is the photo of how Polish authorities were held back:

And what's wrong with it? Or they need to allow public and journalists free access to the firing debris and bodies? You are really crazy.
Olga 1 | 330
16 Apr 2010 #491
You are really crazy.

Saying it won't make it so, repetitive drone.
Jed - | 165
16 Apr 2010 #492
Sorry, if you take it too personal.
Olga 1 | 330
16 Apr 2010 #493
my advice to Poland is to be very wary and vigilant

Poland's worst enemy would give the same advices.

Poland's worst enemy can be found crying like a pu**y on cohort's shoulder. I am immune to your propaganda, so knock yourself out.

Can anyone smell the shale gas? ;)

themoscowtimes.com/opinion/article/scent-of-shale-gas-hangs-over-katyn/403877.html
Jed - | 165
16 Apr 2010 #494
Poland's worst enemy can be found crying like a pu**y on cohort's shoulder. I am immune to your propaganda, so knock yourself out.

World around you is coloured and not only black and white as you think. You immune to the logic and common sense.
Olga 1 | 330
16 Apr 2010 #495
You immune to the logic and common sense.

No, just to propaganda zaraza like you.
MediaWatch 10 | 945
16 Apr 2010 #496
*ahem* Don't you mean "Stalinist?"

You still bellieve what Russian authorities spoon-feed you, even after hearing "dawaj gnata?" and this?:

Olga I was not the one who talked about "Satanists", "Globalists", "Masons", etc who did it.
That was the author of the article who suggested it Henry Makow.
henrymakow.com/katyn_ii_-_how_satanists_say_w_1.html

I just re-posted his article.

Sorry to say my Polish is not too good.

Can you tell me what "dawaj gnata" means? What was the guy in the video saying?

So perhaps some rogue Stalinist types over there did this whole thing?
Olga 1 | 330
16 Apr 2010 #497
Can you tell me what "dawaj gnata"

It means "Give me the gun."

Sorry, didn't mean to give you a hard time...There's just so much propaganda on here, you know? ;-)
Jed - | 165
16 Apr 2010 #498
No, just to propaganda zaraza like you.

In the middle age people like you would burn "heretics", in the last century people of the same kind killed millions of other people just for their different race or class. No compromise! No different opinions! You are the only one telling the truth and others are just stupid puppets...

And you tell me about "propaganda"? You already demonstrated several pages of puriest propaganda - conclusions without proofs.
Olga 1 | 330
16 Apr 2010 #499
And you tell me about "propaganda"? You already demonstrated several pages of puriest propaganda - conclusions without proofs.

Ja sie do ciebie nie przypierdalam na kazdym kroku tak jak ty do mnie. Odjeb sie.
Jed - | 165
16 Apr 2010 #500
I don't like orthodoxes of any sort - so just take it and relax.
Olga 1 | 330
16 Apr 2010 #501
I don't like orthodoxes of any sort

What are you referring to--religion?
Jed - | 165
16 Apr 2010 #502
No - just a way of thinking.
Olga 1 | 330
16 Apr 2010 #503
Well, f**k, I am least orthodox on here. You think I don't know what you are, eh?
TomMarAlem1987 - | 2
16 Apr 2010 #504
youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bDO3yl9i9lw
Jed - | 165
16 Apr 2010 #505
It means "Give me the gun."

Davai - depending of contects means "give" or "go" or "let's"/
"Gnata" - there is no such a word in Russian.

I hear it as "davai suda" = "go here", usually for car drivers.
Olga 1 | 330
16 Apr 2010 #506
Exactly, for favor. Like in this case. One favor for another ;)
MediaWatch 10 | 945
16 Apr 2010 #507
It means "Give me the gun."

Sorry, didn't mean to give you a hard time...

That's OK :)

..There's just so much propaganda on here, you know? ;-)

lol could be.

So one of the guys in the distance said "Give me the gun"?

What was the voice near the camera saying?
Velund 1 | 418
16 Apr 2010 #508
It means "Give me the gun."

Your imagination is really impressive.

First word may mean "give me" or "move to" depending on context, second word as it written is simply not existant in Russian.
Olga 1 | 330
16 Apr 2010 #509
I hear it as "davai suda" = "go here", usually for car drivers.

You're on crack. It's davaj gnata. "Give me the gun." Followed immediately by gunshots, interestingly enough.
Jed - | 165
16 Apr 2010 #510
gnata

gnata - in what language it means "me the gun"? Not in Russian. Polish? Alien?

What was the voice near the camera saying?

"F*CK" equivalent in Russian. Express shocking.

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