What does Poles think of European superstate?

What does Poles think of European superstate?


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How is this different from the USSR?

Fewer initials?

It is very similar, I think. Tendency to reduce freedom of speech, thought, press...to .brainwash you that directive from Brussels are always correct and MUST be followed...

That is why something has to change very soon.

It won't be giant at all. If they really push for this madness, It will start from Germany, Austria, Belgium, Holland, Lux, France and Italy. Then they will figure out that Italy is pretty much larger Greece and drop it off, then they will figure out that Lux is a town, not a country, then they will figure out that Guy fecker turned Belgium into the 3rd world islamic state... then Gerries and French will get into conflict over who's in charge of this mess... It would be quite funny to watch If not the fact that likely at some point Gerries will start a war... to save European values or somethin...

A lot of discussion about European integration right now in Poland. That guy with the radio programme about Libertarian politics (usually an interesting commentator) is dead set against, other commentators not so much.

I think it's a great thing, tge Brits in the EU were constantly slowing things down and not willing to give an inch in the EU parliament.

The big players want them out asap so hopefully we'll see some real progress on an EU level now.

Tricky though, the big boys gotta keep the wee countries happy so they won't want to leave too. I think they'll crucify England in the article 50 negotiations, make an example of them so that others won't want to follow suit.

I'd be optimistic that things will really progress without Britain. France, Germany and one of Spain, Italy or Poland will take lead and solidify the EU now and we'll continue to live in peace and relative prosperity. Sure, what more could we ask for?

A common market and no wars in Europe, that's what the EU was set up for, that's what it's delivered.

In a paradise of peasants and workers. Brainless fools like you were behind most of totalitarian regimes, your generation of imbeciles enable another one to arise.

Oh change the record you insufferable bore

You're not even man enough to have a real account here so naff off

That's what it was set up for but inch by inch it has been evolving into a super-state whether individual nations wanted it or not. Now the plan to deprive countries of even more sovereignty -- armed forces, taxes, foreign policy -- will be the EU's undoing. The EU's leftist-liberal elite are so blinded by their PC/multi-culti obsession that they fail to realise THEY WERE THE DIRECT CAUSE OF BREXIT.

Exactly. Europe's longest period of peace and prosperity.

Oh, you're using your Polonius name today, cool.

Yea, we'll I'd rather have Merkel in change of my army, taxes and foreign policies that some f!ckwit like Boris Johnson or Party Leader Jaroslaw K to be totally honest. Don't even attempt to show me I'm wrong on this. Bojo is an idiot and the Polish economy is in the toilet since your beloved cult party came to power.

The EU could be as powerful as the US, it would have a proper common market like the US. I dont' see why people wouldn't want that.

The good thing is is that the EU wouldn't be a cesspit of culture & racism like the US is......provided we keep the right-wing nutjobs like yourself in check.

Thankfully, as we've seen in Brexit, rightwingers fall into 2 camps, the old and the uneducated.

The old will be dead in 20 years, thankfully, and the uneducated will never be in positions of power coz they're too stupid to get decent jobs :)

Win-win

I'll just leave this here

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This may interest people as it's the text of the actual proposal for a 'united Europe'. Always much better to read the original document than a journalist's interpretation of it:

reddit.com/r/europe/comments/4q240s/frenchgerman_proposal_for_a_european_superstate/?st=ipz9hmxc&sh=f948cd97

Great, that'll gimme something to chew over when I'm having me dinner

I bet you know who won't be bothered reading it :D

Maybe stick a recipe for flaki in it and he might

Would you Smurf? What about Irish neutrality?? Our armed forces number approximately 10,000 and that includes the desk staff. If we were called on to provide troops in war, we'd be wiped out in a week. Ireland is a special case within the EU as we are an island without the vulnerability of land borders. I really wouldn't like to see us lumped in with everyone else.

We have managed to develop a great relationship with the UK since indepdendence and I would like to see us maintain that. We already have the RAF and British Navy on standby if we ever needed them. They would come to our assistance without a doubt. Actually a few months ago there were complaints from some quarters in Ireland about our sovereignty being compromised by this arrangement! So I can't see the Irish people being too happy with Angela Merkel telling us what to do.

Smacznego for lunch by the way and we're still BFFs whatever our political differences :)

If I'm not mistaken, Ireland chose an opt-out with regards to participating in any EU armed forces.

As far as I know Irish troops are deployed in a peacekeeping role in the Middle East and so on, correct me if I am wrong or out of date.

What about your borders?

And leftwingers fall into two categories: 1) the dimwits that actually naively believe all the mutliculti/mutlisexy slogans and buzzwords, and 2) those who cyncially use the gullible leftist rank and filers to further their own careers.

Polly I don't think that would make a bit of difference to the EU authorities if it came to the crunch. The thing about politics is that they all make up the rules as they go along. We didn't get any special opt-out in the Lisbon Treaty. We come under the same rules as everyone else so we got round it by amending our constitution thus:

The State shall not adopt a decision taken by the European Council to establish a common defence pursuant to Article 42 of the Treaty on European Union where that common defence would include the State.

We're not members of NATO but we are members of the UN peacekeeping forces.

Indeed. Or Angela Eagle, Dan Jarvis, Nicola Sturgeon, Francois Hollande, either of the Verhofstat brothers...

Yeah, because without blessed EU... what would happen ? Gerries would invade someone again ? So how come putting the same Gerries (as that what "super state" will be) in charge of the whole continent would be so super cool ? You EUnuchs and your logic.

with the EU, they don't have to ...:D

Ver dude that turned Belgium into the 3rd world country ? What's working there ? Recently they are worried their nuclear power plant might explode. Hollande is equelly useless. What you strange dudes don't get is once there was a democratic super state (or would that be a lefty dictatorship ?) more likely than any of those clowns, Orban would win an elections there. Then what ? You nutters would likely start a civil war against him. It's the same again and again, you bolsheviks come up with "freedom, peace, prosperity" and in the end war and destruction, unfortunately that's likely what we are going to see again.

Your politically Illiterate blustering, Gregorz, as usual doesn't alter one single word of the truth, namely:

Huh ? Jesus, dude leaving aside Balkan wars or that we have a friggin war in Ukraine the moment we speak, "wars" between developed countries are just yesterday's story with or without EU. They simply cost too much. You could as "well" credit so called "global warming" for "Europe's longest period of peace and prosperity". I'm sorry to say that but you people are idiots.


True. They control the whole thing. So who in the end benefit from that thing ? Slovenia... ? Who's pushing for "super state" and why ?

Compared to Bojo and JK, yea.

I'd never give up Irish neutrality, I'm a proud coward and by Jaysus if a war ever kicks off I'm way off to Eire with me passport and my kids' passports too :)


Blah blah blah, look at me I use a thesaurus to beef up my stupid arguments with big words coz I don't really have anything concrete to say

Try harder, your arguments are crap.


But I was only comparing Bojo and JK, not Ireland....but then again, I'd take Angela over Enda any day of the week. He's been a terrible leader imo.


No borders, they aren't working. Europe had until WWI totally open borders. It worked fine until then. Everything started to go wrong once the idea of 'nation states' took hold after WWI

A return to complete freedom of movement. But, not allowing access to benefits until they've lived in a new state for a minimun of 5 years.

Indeed many economists have been wanted this for a long, long time

Will we see full villages from Romania or Slovakia upping sticks and moving to Huddersfield? No, why? Coz Huddersfiled is a sh!thole and the vast majority of people living in Europe are happy where they are and will remain there.


Amen brother


And I suppose you think American doesn't go to war for the purpose of making money for private industry? DOn't be codding yourself boy.

The EU wants to become prosperous the honest way, no wars and we do it together.
Small-minded gobdaws cannot see that becasue they're too obsessed with remaining different and not working together.
PiS voters for example

With the exception of the Balkan wars, the Anschluß of Crimea and the hybrid war against Ukraine. Prosperity was rather one-sided -- huge distance between Germany and Sweden as compared to Bulagria and Albania.

That's a rather silly comment, since one just joined Europe and another isn't a member. Nor are Ukraine and Russia. A very weak argument as usual, Po, and as usual laden with untruths.


Any figures to show that? No.