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70% of Poles like Komorowski. Do you?


Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
11 Aug 2012 #1
On the 2nd anniversary of Komorowski's presidency it turns out that he enjoys good politcial support (around 70%). Why do you think that is the case?
Midas 1 | 571
11 Aug 2012 #2
Why do you think that is the case?

Because he's trying hard not to make a single public statement which would upset anyone? At times it makes him seem like the invisible man, but with Poland being a flawed democracy it is doing wonders for his ratings.

Plus he's got the whole I'm nobility, look at my moustache thing going for him, that's probably worth a few % in the ratings with Poland being Poland and all.

I personally don't consider him a particularly good politician and the way he went after that poor kiddo that ran a libellous site about him ( Polish equivalent of MI6 knocked down the kid's door at 6 am in the morning, according to the press ) was simply low.

Donald Tusk, that bright young lad who pretty much runs Poland these days considered the Presidency as something unworthy of his political skill and Sikorski would have grown too much if he got to be President at such a young age, hence you got Komorowski in office.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163
11 Aug 2012 #3
Why do you think that is the case?

Because he's following Kwaśniewski's pattern, stay away from politics, smile a lot, say a few good words about everyone, that plus Tusk got him some PR advisors, who take care that old prick don't humiliate himself too often. Generally English queen style of presidency. Then one could wonder why we need this office, which cost us 200 million annually. English queen at least generate some tourism.

Plus he's got the whole I'm nobility

He's clearly a peasant. Just look at him.
Midas 1 | 571
11 Aug 2012 #4
If I understand correctly "Komorowscy" are a proper Polish noble family with a crest and all that.

Other than that, I believe Komorowski did get in trouble with the commies in the 1980's so regardless of how one views his current activities that in itself is a bright spot on his bio.
gumishu 11 | 5,326
11 Aug 2012 #5
Why do you think that is the case?

because Poles are used to village pastors Komorowski is
sobieski 107 | 2,128
11 Aug 2012 #6
Komorowski represents Poland in a dignified way, the way a president should do.
No dramatics such as flying Rambo-style to Georgia and trying to sack a sensible pilot.
The duckists are/were not able to do this. The present duck would be a laughable representation of this country.
Komorowski was in the anti communist movement since ages. The ducks' father was a commie collaborator.
The Komorowski Clan received their title from Matthias Corvinius, King of Hungary, in the 15th century.
The President is related to the future Queen of Belgium.

If anybody is a peasant, it is this Polska-B smolenkist duck.
Ironside 49 | 10,375
11 Aug 2012 #7
Why do you think that is the case?

Media.
sofijufka 2 | 191
12 Aug 2012 #8
The Komorowski Clan received their title from Matthias Corvinius, King of Hungary, in the 15th century.

this line was extinct with the death of Piotr Komorowski. Hist title was unlawfully expropriated by his brother and his descendants.
Bronisław Komorowski's familly coat of arms is Dołęga, not Korczak
Nie miał wątpliwości Seweryn hr. Uruski w swoim herbarzu Rodzina wymienia te osoby explicite w rozdziale "Komorowski h. Dołęga odm." wiedząc o ich pretensjach, co wyraził słowami:

"Bartłomiej, dziedzic Rawiszek, podczaszy wiłkomierski 1734 r., zaślubił Teresę Oziębłowską i z niej pozostawił synów: Franciszka [to przodek m.in. marszałka Bronisława], Hektora, miecznika wiłkomierskiego 1761 r., Józefa, Jezuitę, i Antoniego, starostę meldyńskiego, podstolego 1766 r., a ostatnio 1781 r. wojskiego wiłkomierskiego, żonatego z Agnieszką Morykoniówną, który w 1764 r. podpisał elekcyę z pow. wiłkomierskim, pisząc się dowolnie z Liptowa i Orawy." [S. Uruski, Rodzina, t. VII, s. 138]

Więcej:
minakowski.pl/jak-komorowscy-wyludzili-tytul-hrabiowski-i-herb-korczak/#ixzz23JSXIMly

minakowski.pl/herb-komorowskich-wyjasnienie-zagadki

The ducks' father was a commie collaborator.

no, he wasn't. Rajmund Kaczyński never was a member of PZPR, and you could say, that ALL Poles were traitors, because they re-built their country ravaged by Germans and Russians instead of killing themselves in protes against commiest!
hague1cmaeron 14 | 1,377
12 Aug 2012 #9
Why do you think that is the case?

I do. The reason why the vast majority of Poles and I like him, is that in contrast to his predecessor he is a healing President and not a divisive one. If you follow some of his performances online, you will also find that he is very good at articulating the mood of the people: youtube.com/wwwprezydentpl
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
12 Aug 2012 #10
He is also a hunter, but that got him into trouble with the protect wildlife nutters. In Poland, hunting is a way of eliminating old or sick animsals and keeping the population vibrant and healthy. Recently he paraphrased Jesus by saying (in defence of hunting): 'Only those who don't eat meat may criticise hunting.' He was saying: what's the differnece between shooting an animal dead and bonking it on the head with a sledge hammer or electrocuting it?
teflcat 5 | 1,032
12 Aug 2012 #11
In Poland, hunting is a way of eliminating old or sick animsals and keeping the population vibrant and healthy.

Not only culling. Here are some prices for hunting in Poland. All prices PLN.
Red stag hunting, per hunter: 672
guide: 45
transport: 142
search: 156
kill: 1995
trophy (preparation and mounting): 555 up to 2kg (head)
10280 for over 8kg.

If the hunt is for culling, I don't have a problem with it. If it's for the pleasure of killing, I do.
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
12 Aug 2012 #13
What if it's because somone simply fancies roast venison, hare or bison? Is that OK in your books?
teflcat 5 | 1,032
12 Aug 2012 #14
Who, me? Yes, for food I have no problem with hunting, especially to control numbers. I wouldn't recommend bison, though. My favourite game is Roe deer.

Back on topic, I think the Pres. is doing what he should be doing, i.e. showing a calm and dignified face internationally, and keeping out of party political spats.
Ziemowit 13 | 4,038
12 Aug 2012 #15
Is that OK in your books?

If it was Kaczyński who liked hunting, Sofijufka would simply try to read other books, me thinks.
Ironside 49 | 10,375
12 Aug 2012 #16
s that in contrast to his predecessor he is a healing

The fact is that he support present regime, more he is a part of it make his presidency so much easer than it would be otherwise. Also doing nothing is not healing, he is only lulling to sleep people by being boring nobody.Also he keeps likes of you in semi-comatose state - wake up - the real issue are not going away and talking nonsense will not induce them to disappear.

If the hunt is for culling

Who cares that he is hunting as long as he is not hunting people?
Ziemowit 13 | 4,038
12 Aug 2012 #17
He's clearly a peasant. Just look at him.

because Poles are used to village pastors Komorowski is

I wonder why some people here don't like Polish peasantry and Polish village pastors. Polish peasants were the first to be called upon by our national hero, Thaddeus Kościuszko, as true defendants of the homeland in danger (the famous "ŻYWIĄ i BRONIĄ"), and Polish village pastors to this very day form the opinions of many who live in villages even to the point of urging them to vote for the only true patriotic power in Poland, the invincible "Prawo i Sprawiedliwość" political party.
Szlachcic - | 36
12 Aug 2012 #18
no.

and I depise that debił Tusk!
jon357 63 | 15,068
12 Aug 2012 #19
He's clearly a peasant. Just look at him.

Most Poles are. And yes, one could say "just look at them"

Part of his appeal stems from the fact that he comes across as a man of the people.
sofijufka 2 | 191
12 Aug 2012 #20
If it was Kaczyński who liked hunting, Sofijufka would simply try to read other books, me thinks.

I like reading books, it's true, but what I know about Kaczyński and Komorowski I know not from books, but from people, who know them very well... For example from former employer of Jarek, from my brother, who worked in IBL with Kaczyńskis mother, from my uncle, who was also a historian and my best friend - an Agora journalist , who told me, that the first words of Bronek, when he was told about Smileńsk, were: OK, there will be peace at last...

And about Bronek the Hunter told me an employee from Lasy Państwowe I interviewed about rabid foxes
gumishu 11 | 5,326
12 Aug 2012 #21
and I depise that debił Tusk!

Tusk is no debil otherwise he wouldn't be in power anymore, he is quite clever. and brazen

showing a calm and dignified face internationally,

you must be joking teflcat
jon357 63 | 15,068
12 Aug 2012 #22
Komorowski represents Poland in a dignified way

Compared to his predecessor who was an international laughing-stock, very much so.
Ironside 49 | 10,375
12 Aug 2012 #23
jon I like you, so please stop lying. He was controversial in some circles and thats all.
teflcat 5 | 1,032
12 Aug 2012 #24
He was a national embarrassment. Perhaps not in the U.S. but in Europe diplomats simply couldn't do business with him. In Poland educated Poles spent quite a lot of time with their hand over their faces.
gumishu 11 | 5,326
12 Aug 2012 #25
I consider myself educated and I haven't hidden my face in my hands
Ironside 49 | 10,375
12 Aug 2012 #26
In Poland educated Poles spent quite a lot of time with their hand over their faces.

I would say, all that educations was wasted on them. Maybe if they had to pay for their education instead of getting it for free they would learn something.

but in Europe diplomats simply couldn't do business with him

You mean he didn't use a perfect opportunity to be quiet and be a yes-man for Europe diplomats? Well, he was naive, he thought that he represented a country and interests of a nation.

He was a national embarrassment.

What nation are you taking about?Soviet Poland? Yes, that nation can be easily embarrassed.
You see he was a confused fellow, he believed that he represents the Polish Nation.

"Georgia has lost its biggest friend in the international society. Poland and Europe have lost a great politician."
sofijufka 2 | 191
12 Aug 2012 #27
In Poland educated Poles spent quite a lot of time with their hand over their faces.

O yes! Young, educated, from big cities ;D! Look, Teflcat, I don't like PIS, but I know too much about PO to be lemming!
grubas 12 | 1,391
12 Aug 2012 #28
but in Europe diplomats simply couldn't do business with him

Oh, so the problem was that he wasn't as submissive as chyży ruj and Broonek are?
teflcat 5 | 1,032
12 Aug 2012 #29
I know too much about PO to be lemming!

The thread is about the current president, not about party politics.

Poland's team seriously impressed their EU colleagues in accession negotiations. They punched well above their diplomatic weight at the time and earned a great deal of respect on all sides. Poland is not a yes-man.

I consider myself educated and I haven't hidden my face in my hands

Fine. You were, I believe, in a minority, but you have every right to respect who you want to.
gumishu 11 | 5,326
12 Aug 2012 #30
Oh, so the problem was that he wasn't as submissive as chyży ruj and Broonek are?

exactly that was the problem


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