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Vietnamese Busted for Selling/Growing Herb in Central Poland


joepilsudski 26 | 1,388
26 Apr 2010 #1
Vietnamese held in cannabis plantation bust

Three Vietnamese men have been arrested and four hundred potted hemp plants confiscated by customs officials in central Poland.

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The plants could yield 300,000 zlotys (about 80,000 euro) worth of recreational drugs. The police detained three citizens from Vietnam on drugs charges...

Read more...

thenews.pl/national/artykul130388_vietnamese-held-in-cannabis-plantation-bust.html

Good way for Poles to make money, but EU no like...
richasis 1 | 418
26 Apr 2010 #2
Good way for Poles to make money, but EU no like...

Yeah, the governments running the drugs don't want anyone cutting in on their action :)
OP joepilsudski 26 | 1,388
26 Apr 2010 #3
The thing is, if it was taxed and controlled properly, the tax money could be used to fund certain social programs...You see, I am a bit of a liberal this way...But it must be done correctly.

In my state in the US, the state government controls the retail sale of alcohol: we have 'State Stores' kind of like a communist deal...In the neighboring states, the liquor stores are private....But either way, it's legal, and these stores either put revenue directly into the budget, or pay taxes.

I don't like taxes, of course, but a reasonable taxation can make sense...Poland legalizes marijuana like the Netherlands, and you have a new industry...Of course, It's not hot in Poland like Mexico, or SE Asia, so the growing would probably be fairly modest....Or just de-criminalize it.

This story just caught my eye, so I put it up.

It's from Polish Radio, happened in Poland, so the moderators will leave it up.
richasis 1 | 418
26 Apr 2010 #4
The thing is, if it was taxed and controlled properly

I totally agree with your position.

Still, the cynic in me asks "why collect only tax revenue instead of the whole lot?"

This, of course, would be the question asked by those who traffic in the goods ;)

Good post - especially given the fact that some in question are illegal Vietnamese.
OP joepilsudski 26 | 1,388
26 Apr 2010 #5
This, of course, would be the question asked by those who traffic in the goods ;)

Yes, it would be their question...They are practical people.
jonni 16 | 2,481
27 Apr 2010 #6
Good way for Poles to make money, but EU no like...

EU leave it up to individual member states, but Poland no like.
RevokeNice 15 | 1,854
27 Apr 2010 #7
All drugs should be legal.

You can buy six litres of vodka and six packets of nuerofen(sp?) to wash it down with but you cannot buy a wee bit of blow without the cops giving ya abuse.

Which doesnt make much sense to me.
dtaylor5632 18 | 1,999
27 Apr 2010 #8
All drugs should be legal.

I think this will be the only time that I've actually agreed with you. Fu(k pigs must fly then!
krakowiak
28 Apr 2010 #9
When you do it right, growing with active coal filters and no light leaks, selling only to few persons you completly trust you seldom can get catched. I'm out of business for years, but back than, it was a good way to earn some surplus for a student with low income ...

All drugs should be legal.

You can buy six litres of vodka and six packets of nuerofen

No, they should prohibit alcohol too, so I can make a cut on moonshine too =)
OP joepilsudski 26 | 1,388
28 Apr 2010 #10
OK...Drugs, a tricky situation...'Controlled substances'...Now there are different reasons for the 'control'...Some of it have to do with big black market money that even governments are profiting from, but some of it has to do with this: 'Do you want a population under the influence of various drugs, and if you don't think this is good, well, you have to control it.

Marijuana?...Definitely de-criminalize, or possibly legalize.

Blow/Cocaine?...I think this is a very bad drug, you don't want a big part of population hooked on this...Only relatively safe form is if you chew leaves like the Bolivian farmers or workers do...When you make it into the white powder, or even worse, 'base' or crack, very bad news.

Opiates?...Now, this a very interesting question...Opiates do no really harm the body, and certainly do not cause violent or anti-social behavior UNLESS a person becomes addicted and cannot obtain a supply.

Methamphetamine?...Not too good.

See, it depends on the type of society...In today's stressful consumer world, stimulants like meth or coke just make things worse.

Right now, I am going through a 'situation'...2 months ago, I bust up my back, rupture a disc...The pain was terrible, I couldn't stand up straight, terrible pain in the legs, couldn't sleep flat on my back for 8 weeks.

I went 4 days with just ibuprofen and whiskey, before I could convince my doctor to give me painkillers...He thought I bullsh*t him...Because of red tape in the medical system, and because we had record snowfall in the city, it took me over 3 weeks to get an MRI...Sure enough, when results come back, my disc busted open, look like a ripe peach that somebody stepped on...Orthopedic doctor says: 'You have 2 choices: surgery or cortisone injections in the back.'...I say 'No surgery, let's try the shots and physical therapy'.

OK but I have to wait another 4 weeks before the insurance will approve the injections, get the right referrals, etc...So I have to beg these doctors for pain killers during this time, because I have to go to work and earn money...Finally, after 8 1/2 weeks I get the cortisone shot, which is a fairly painful process if it is near the spine...It works some, I can sleep on my back finally, but still bad pain...They say it takes 2 or 3 shots to get the full effect...But now I have to wait again for insurance to approve it...In meantime, I'm almost out of pain medication, so tomorrow I go the doctor and beg again...

See, the pain meds are opiates, but they are the only thing that work...Doctors know this...I am very conservative using them, but doctors still don't like to proscribe them (unless it was the doctor himself who was hurt then no problem!).
convex 20 | 3,928
28 Apr 2010 #11
Just decriminalize like Portugal and the Czech Republic. You don't have to tax it in order to make money off of it. The benefit to the criminal justice system alone is a great argument for decriminalization.


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