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Poland versus Greece in economy


Crow 152 | 9,747
21 Feb 2018 #121
But, its exactly where Putin disagree with Merkel. Among else.
kaprys 3 | 2,501
21 Feb 2018 #122
@Marino_Kat
Will you please stop being arrogant and insulting Poland just because you're arguing with someone you assume is Polish or living in Poland.
You're full of prejudice and arrogance.
Why don't you go back to crying how other countries failed to help Greece? Why would they? Such a great country needed help. Unbelievable!

How about visiting another country?
Marino_Kat 1 | 113
21 Feb 2018 #123
Evryone needs help sometimes. Im very fit, sport is my life, i do bodybuilding and fitness. Few weeks ago i had influenca and had problems to even walk normal. Thats why people are social beings.
kaprys 3 | 2,501
21 Feb 2018 #124
What does it have to do with being insulting towards Poland?
Just because you're having an online argument with people you assume are Polish?
Tacitus 2 | 1,461
21 Feb 2018 #125
In 2015 ite scalated. At worst times our old people collapsed infront the banks and cried.

You have your own politicians to blame for that. Anyone who voted or believed in the madman Varoufakis who caused this situation is also guilty.

So how exactly did they benefit from those 2 things ?

The Greeks obviously. Otherwise they would have lost the Euro, something they desperately wanted to avoid.
Marino_Kat 1 | 113
23 Feb 2018 #126
I have no problem with losing the €. Let the system implode. Who cares?

Its just a game, only paper. People are trapped in this and believe there is anything important.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,816
23 Feb 2018 #127
Greece shouldve ditched the euro a long time ago. Thankfully poland has no plans to implement the euro, lest its performance drastically improves which is unlikely. When polands consistently experiences a higher growth rate than basically every western eu nation, and almost all eu actually, theres no reason to give up total control over polands fiscal policies
Ziemowit 13 | 4,535
23 Feb 2018 #128
I have no problem with losing the €. Let the system implode.

The reports of the euro's death have been greatly exaggerated. Europe has not once in history been able to stand up again. The European project is going to move on and any morons from the US who say it will not are wrong. Poland should adopt the euro in the not-too-distant future. If Poland is ready to receive money from Europe, it means she should also be prepared to receive the common currency.

If she is ready to receive money, but not ready to receive immigrants is another question. Rumour has it that Victor Orban of Hungary is ready to accept the immigration quotas imposed by the EU. That could have been a major blow to the policy pursued by Poland.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,816
23 Feb 2018 #129
. Rumour has it that Victor Orban of Hungary is ready to accept the immigration quotas imposed by the EU.

Highly doubt it - he's been running and winning on an anti-migrant, anti-Soros platform. But yes - he did say he is willing to take in refugees - specifically European refugees fleeing the multiculturalism and terrorism of Western EU.

All these recent articles say otherwise:
politico.eu/article/viktor-orban-refugees-europe-will-restore-the-will-of-the-people-on-migration-in-2018
politico.eu/article/viktor-orban-hungary-doesnt-want-muslim-invaders No to Muslim invaders!!!!
dw.com/en/hungarys-orban-tells-germany-you-wanted-the-migrants-we-didnt/a-42065012
reuters.com/article/us-hungary-election-orban/hungarys-orban-calls-for-global-anti-migrant-alliance-with-eye-on-2018-elections-idUSKCN1G20PV
theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/26/hungarian-prime-minister-viktor-orban-praises-donald-trump No poison for Hungary and Poland!!

Everyone is saying that he's going to win a 3rd term without a problem. If indeed that does happen and he wins, Hungarians can rest assured that their countries won't be racked with terrorism, rapes, economic problems, Saudi funded mosques, etc.

If Poland is ready to receive money from Europe, it means she should also be prepared to receive the common currency.

Why? We've already got 10's of billions of dollars and it looks like we'll continue to receive funds till 2020. There was nothing stating that Poland must adopt the Euro in order to receive/keep receiving funds.

Poland said that they will adopt the Euro IF it's performance improves. For the time being, it's stagnant and at best growth is sluggish. There's no reason why Poland should give up more fiscal control when their economy is growing at a perfect rate of 3-4% every year all while keeping inflation in check. Implementation of the euro would undo much of those benefits that Poles are reaping due to wise management of the country's money, wisely investing EU funds, and having a population that works hard and doesn't reward laziness and illegality by giving welfare to freeloading parasites who entered the country illegally and have no plans on getting a real job and contributing to society.
Marino_Kat 1 | 113
23 Feb 2018 #130
I think Poland should also sto taking EU money. Why should a german tax payer pay for transfers into Poland while Poland does nothing for him in return?

Thats parasitic behavior at its best
G (undercover)
23 Feb 2018 #131
I think

I don't think so.
G (undercover)
23 Feb 2018 #132
Poland should adopt the euro in the not-too-distant future

Another clueless dude with idealogical approach to EUR...
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,816
23 Feb 2018 #133
@Marino_Kat

Theyre not giving out money for free. Its an investment, not a donation. Germans have made plenty of money off poland even as early as the 90s when the so called mariott brigades started showing up. To this day a ton of banks, media outlets, factories, etc. are owned bt germans. Now Israelis are getting into real estate and development in pl like crazy. Yes, EU taxpayers fund these projects, however many EU taxpayers being employed by German/French/Swedish/Portuguese/Spanish/etc companies on projects in Poland. A good chunk also goes to agriculture - if you want GMO apples that are freakishly three times their natural size or strawberries that look like they have tumors, then we can stop the EU funds and import garbage food.

Take the infrastructure projects. Well in wroclaw a swedish company was hired to do some work on bridges and alter parts of the odra river. Some of these projects financed by eu are no bid.
G (undercover)
23 Feb 2018 #134
The Greeks obviously. Otherwise they would have lost the Euro, something they desperately wanted to avoid.

They should have lost EUR and bankrupt, just like any normal country would, being in the same situation.
Marino_Kat 1 | 113
23 Feb 2018 #135
@Dirk diggler

Poland cant hide from its responsibility regarding migrants. The migrant flow got stopped. The ones who made it cant just stay in Greece, Italy, Germany and Sweden. EU is 500 million people. Where is the so called solidarity?
mafketis 29 | 10,321
23 Feb 2018 #136
Where is the so called solidarity?

Up Merkel's 4ss? where it belongs?

The ones who made it cant just stay in Greece, Italy, Germany and Sweden

Nothing preventing most of them from going back home...
Ziemowit 13 | 4,535
23 Feb 2018 #137
We've already got ...

we'll continue to ...

You may be right except for the fact that speaking in 'we' seems in your case to be a very far-fetched exaggeration ...

Another clueless dude with idealogical approach to EUR...

And you are broadcasting from what $hitty country on this planet when speaking so loudly on behalf of the Polish people in Poland?

Thats parasitic behavior at its best

Parasitic behaviour was the behaviour of Greece when she cheated and milked the euro zone beyond all imaginable levels. I say, the morals of the modern Greeks is as low as the morals of the modern Turks with whom they should form a lovely confederation. Ancient Greeks must be ashamed of you and turn in their graves because of you, modern Greeks ...
mafketis 29 | 10,321
23 Feb 2018 #138
Actually isn't a very large percentage of the modern population made of up hellenicized Albanians? (the same way Hungary is largely made up of magyarized Slavs and Germans)
Marino_Kat 1 | 113
23 Feb 2018 #139
No, we are identical to our ancestors, which can be proven by DNA

sciencemag.org/news/2017/08/greeks-really-do-have-near-mythical-origins-ancient-dna-reveals

"Now, ancient DNA suggests that living Greeks are indeed the descendants of Mycenaeans, with only a small proportion of DNA from later migrations to Greece. And the Mycenaeans themselves were closely related to the earlier Minoans, the study reveals, another great civilization that flourished on the island of Crete from 2600 B.C.E. to 1400 B.C.E. (named for the mythical King Minos)."

We have gigantic heritage.

What do you have?

@Ziemowit

What does a cave dweller know about my ancestors? When my ancestors build marble temples...yours lived in caves. Do you even have a history? Any legends? Any Mythology?
gregy741 4 | 1,204
23 Feb 2018 #140
What does a cave dweller know about my ancestors?

i heard they were world famous for being homosexuals and pedophiles.Todays Greeks are afro-arabian inbreeds anyway
Marino_Kat 1 | 113
23 Feb 2018 #141
You mistake us for catholic priests maybe? They are famous for being homosexuality and pedophiles.

Beside that you seem unable to read. DNA shows we are identical to greeks from 2500 years ago. Nothing afro or arabian on us.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,816
23 Feb 2018 #142
'we'

We meaning Polish citizens and voters - 3/4 of whom do not want migrants from me and Africa in Poland. Such is Poland's sovereign right and desire. EU is finally coming to accept that they cannot bully nearly half the countries in Eastern Europe from taking in migrants. Even the Swiss majority now voted AGAINST taking in migrants and AGAINST a guaranteed basic income because they knew parasites would come and take advantage of it - just as in Germany, Sweden, etc. Denmark also cut their benefits payments and immediately the parasites went onto a new host - Sweden.

We have gigantic heritage.

That's the last thing that Greeks have to be proud of. Everything else has gone to sh1t.

homosexuals and pedophiles

Pederasty and homosexuality was very common in ancient Rome and Greece. In fact, there was only like 1 emperor that was totally straight - the majority were bisexual.

What do you have?

A bigger economy, a larger country, prettier women, far higher growth rates, low rates of HIV, low unemployment rates, an economy that doesn't have a 200% gdp to debt ratio, a conservative society and best of all a homogenous Christian society that isn't cucked by EU/IMF. Unlike Athens, Warsaw doesn't have a bunch of trash lying around everywhere. Everyone who goes to Athens lately complains how dirty and nasty the city has become. It's a shame as it was such a beautiful city. But the economic crisis and deluge of migrants changed things. Also, Poles don't have to worry that their savings will be evaporated and that they won't be able to pull money out of ATMs
mafketis 29 | 10,321
23 Feb 2018 #143
What do you have?

A functional economy and currency? BOOM!!!!!!!
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,816
23 Feb 2018 #144
Some videos on Greece:

youtube.com/watch?v=reU7wWgFmDU Yes or No? Greece Again on the Brink: Greek Debt Crisis (Dispatch 1)

youtube.com/watch?v=rkqxQ3qZg90 The Bankrupt State - Greece
youtube.com/watch?v=Uo37vW2SW-U Sisa: Cocaine of the Poor (Part 1/2) - popular drug in Greece, also discusses the dramatic increase in HIV infection

youtube.com/watch?v=7ASpKCnx4D4 Life as an Illegal Immigrant in Greece - tons of migrants complaining - muh regime, muh rights, gibs me dat!!!!

youtube.com/watch?v=431Vspkwy3A] The Rampant Refugee Crisis in Greece: A Broken System

Greece's glory days are long gone and it will take a miracle and several generations to bring Greece back to where it was around 2006
Marino_Kat 1 | 113
23 Feb 2018 #145
Our country is more beautiful. Infact one of most beautiful in world. What do you have? Grey communist cities and dead landscapes.

You have more HIV and your women look ugly with hair between their eyes.

You have no christian society, you have catholicism. We have a homogenous christian society. You are cucked, a slave of USA and absolute weak, in fear of russia. No art, no culture and no style.

And majority of popes was gay and pedophile. John Paul 2nd protected pedophiles

telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/the-pope/10787986/Pope-John-Paul-II-was-no-saint-but-a-man-who-covered-up-sin.html
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,816
23 Feb 2018 #146
More beautiful you say? Because warehouses full of migrants abandoned boats all over lesbos and kos shores and tons of trash laying all over thr capital is such a pretty sight. The migrant boats have become a sort of tourist attraction.

If you have such a low opinion of poland why are you going there?

And no, hiv rates are far lower in pl than greece. 12k in greece, 19k in poland. Polands population is however almost 4x larger. Hiv rates went up 60% overall and 1500% among injecting drug users.
Marino_Kat 1 | 113
23 Feb 2018 #147
Yes, more beautiful. Infact greece was just recently voted most beautiful country worldwide by the BBC.

At least we have a capital. Did Hitler and Stalin let much stand of Warsaw?

I have a 14 day job in Poland, its not that i do out of free will. Obviously you poles could not find another attractive male in poland like me to get that role.

But good you accept john paul II being a criminal
mafketis 29 | 10,321
23 Feb 2018 #148
You have more HIV and your women look ugly with hair between their eyes.

Oh please come to Poland and tell everybody what you think of it.... (just make sure you have health insurance and an open return ticket)

good you accept john paul II being a criminal

Please, please, please tell every person you meet in Poland what you think of JPII, you'll make sooooooooo many friends.
kaprys 3 | 2,501
23 Feb 2018 #149
@Marino_Kat
Dear,
As an ugly woman with hair between my eyes (apparently), I advise you to keep your arrogant, prejudiced self away from Poland.

P.S. Can anyone explain the idea of hair between eyes to me? Like what does it look like?
Looks like someone knows a thing or two about hairy women ;)

@mafketis How did you end up in such a terrible country with such ugly women. You should have chosen Greece! All Greeks are related to ancient Greeks. They're all descendants of Alexander the Great (not Alexander of FYROM)! And all words are derived from Greek, even kimono! And bigos!

I'm in such an awe. WOW!
mafketis 29 | 10,321
23 Feb 2018 #150
I advise you to keep your arrogant, prejudiced self away from Poland

He's a charmer for sure, his very first post was insulting and he's done nothing but insult people the entire time and apparently doesn't understand why people are hostile to him as he's spitting venom at them.

He's easily the most unpleasant and nasty Greek person I've ever had the misfortune of dealing with in any media....

I hope he does come to Poland and tells everybody what false, ugly people they are and how JPII is a criminal. That would be an experience he will not soon forget....


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