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Upping the speed limit in Poland


Wroclaw 44 | 5,389
30 Oct 2010  #1
Is this a wise move for Poland as a country and drivers? The move will mean that the motorway speed limits will increase from 130 to 140 km/h (87 mph), with limits on expressways to increase from 110 to 120 km/h (75 mph).
Wroclaw Boy
30 Oct 2010  #2
The move will mean that the motorway speed limits will increase from 130 to 140 km/h (87 mph), with limits on expressways to increase from 110 to 120 km/h (75 mph).

Fine for the motorways everybody speeds on them anyway not the rest though
convex 20 | 3,978
30 Oct 2010  #3
There are speed limits?

The people that want to drive fast do so anyway. Might as well put the emphasis on driving fast safely.
PennBoy 76 | 2,437
30 Oct 2010  #4
is this a wise move:

It took me 3 1/2 hours to get to the Warsaw Airport from Stalowa Wola where i used to live, distance of 230.95 km.
SzwedwPolsce 11 | 1,595
30 Oct 2010  #5
The people that want to drive fast do so anyway.

And they have to pay for it.

I had to pay 200 zl for speeding last week. But if you drive too fast, you must be prepared to pay.
Wroclaw Boy
31 Oct 2010  #6
Anybody who gets caught speeding on a hand held Police camera is a bit of an idiot really, you just hit the brakes when you see it pointing at you.

I got busted a few months ago by an unmarked Police car, only cost a 100 PLN though, bargain. It was on the A1 heading north out of Katowice, they really need a decent Police presence on that road its full of nutters.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,596
31 Oct 2010  #7
is this a wise move:

I'd go further and go up to 150km/h on toll motorways - the traffic is usually so light that it's not a problem.

Equally so, there needs to be a huge crackdown on speeding in the cities. The fact that (so far) - over 900 people have been caught drink driving this weekend says it all about the mentality of Polish drivers!
ukpolska
31 Oct 2010  #8
Right that has made my mind up, been looking a for a solid investment for a while and Funeral Directors it is, should see a good return on this one :)
dtaylor5632 18 | 2,007
31 Oct 2010  #9
Last thing Poland needs is an increase on the speed limit! Polish drivers find it hard enough to keep to the current limits let alone put them higher.
tygrys 2 | 294
31 Oct 2010  #10
The speed limit should be lowered in Poland. There are too many hot-headed, irresponsible nervous drivers causing too many accidents.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,596
31 Oct 2010  #11
And that can be solved with proper policing. Speed isn't the problem, but bad driving is.

It doesn't matter what the speed limit is - Polish drivers will ignore the limits regardless.

I mean, I've been out and about this weekend - where the hell is the policing? Why haven't they been stopping people near the graveyards to breath test them?

A lower limit won't achieve anything, and speed limits in Poland are quite sensibly set at the minute - they just need to be much more enforced. Likewise with red lights - if the punishment was like in Germany (instant 2 month ban for jumping a red light), you'd see much less idiotic behaviour.
dtaylor5632 18 | 2,007
31 Oct 2010  #12
where the hell is the policing?

Poland doesn't have "traffic police". what do you expect?

A lower limit won't achieve anything

A lower limit will achieve one thing, more prosecutions.

nd speed limits in Poland are quite sensibly set at the minute

They may be sensible, but not to the Polish driver who ignores them straight out.

A firmer hand is needed.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,596
31 Oct 2010  #13
Poland doesn't have "traffic police". what do you expect?

In terms of what I expect - I expect them to put a hell of a lot more effort into it. The thing that confuses me - they would easily make their money back from sending out unmarked cars - so why the hell don't they?

A lower limit will achieve one thing, more prosecutions.

Only if they're there to enforce it - which they aren't :(

A firmer hand is needed.

Yup. Leave the speed limits alone, but deal with the endless ****** driving.

And deal with the ******* morons who cycle on the road rather than on the special bike path available to them. I nearly took one guy out yesterday, when he was cycling on a 90km/h dual carriageway up a steep hill!
dtaylor5632 18 | 2,007
31 Oct 2010  #14
so why the hell don't they?

They wont work, you need a presence that can be seen.

Only if they're there to enforce it - which they aren't :(

Cant enforce anything unless they do the leg work.
mafketis 20 | 7,053
31 Oct 2010  #15
Speed on brothers, hell ain't half full yet!
Wroclaw Boy
31 Oct 2010  #16
The speed limit should be lowered in Poland.

I think you'll find that will increase road fatalities, more over taking = more accidents, especially in the country.
convex 20 | 3,978
31 Oct 2010  #17
Absolutely right. That's the dangerous part of driving here, not the driving fast, but having a drunk (or not) idiot passing around a blind corner...Or passing without looking and trying to murder people on motorcycles....
SzwedwPolsce 11 | 1,595
31 Oct 2010  #18
Anybody who gets caught speeding on a hand held Police camera is a bit of an idiot really, you just hit the brakes when you see it pointing at you.

1. The operator of the camera usually hide somewhere.
2. Most police lasers use infrared emission, so it's invisible.
convex 20 | 3,978
31 Oct 2010  #19
2. Most police lasers use infrared emission, so it's invisible.

doesn't matter what band the lasers operate in, the laser detector will pick them up :) $49 at Walmart will do the job here in Polska...
Harry
31 Oct 2010  #20
Once your machine has detected the laser, you've already been nicked. The only way to get round the laser detectors is with your own laser that fires back and coincidentally does so on precisely the same wavelength as the police's laser. Problem is that to have one of those you need an active laser lock system on your home security system (which again co-incidentally uses police wavelength). Frankly it's easier and cheaper to just pay your fines.
OP Wroclaw 44 | 5,389
31 Oct 2010  #21
I mean, I've been out and about this weekend - where the hell is the policing? Why haven't they been stopping people near the graveyards to breath test them?

my wife has just done berlin - zielona gora- berlin... and saw one police car... 500 meters after seeing a police radar warning sign.

wifey also mentioned that the road back to berlin was packed with traffic because there is no holiday in germany tomorrow and everyone has to get back for work.
Bolle 1 | 147
1 Nov 2010  #22
Speed limit increase in poland?? Wow what a mistake. This will only encourage people to driver faster and more recklessly (if this is even possible) on the ****** polish road system.
Wroclaw Boy
1 Nov 2010  #23
The operator of the camera usually hide somewhere.

They used to sneakily hide in all kinds of funny places, but new legislation was brought in and they cant pull that trick any more. I mean they will still evade obvious exposure but nothing like the shite they used to pull.
kondzior 8 | 945
2 Nov 2010  #24
Yes, I all for harsh treatment of speeders, but only after all the ridicules speed limits are re-evaluated. All thesse 50km/h limits on "dwupasmówkach" (cannot think of right translation right now) in fact encourage speeding - if it was something reasonable, like 90 km/h, I'd at least consider it. Right now I'll just snort "they got to be kidding" and floor it. Be hanged for a lamb...
Teffle 22 | 1,321
2 Nov 2010  #25
There seems to be a bit of recurring sentiment of "Oh speed isn't the problem - bad driving is".

Is anyone actually suggesting that people who speed excessively and regularly are not more likely to cause or be in an accident?
kondzior 8 | 945
2 Nov 2010  #26
Is anyone actually suggesting that people who speed excessively and regularly are not more likely to cause or be in an accident?

Quite the contrary. As long as everyone is driving the same speed, regardless of speed limit, there is low probability of an accident. But if there is just one law abiding moron, so called "zawalidroga", one that have to be overtaken by everyone else in the traffic, while they are watching out for oncomig cars and cursing under theirs breathses a sunday driver, the danger of head on collision raises exponentially.
Teffle 22 | 1,321
2 Nov 2010  #27
Quite the contrary. As long as everyone is driving the same speed, regardless of speed limit, there is low probability of an accident.

Maybe, but everyone driving at the same speed is not a realistic scenario.

But if there is just one law abiding moron, so called "zawalidroga", one that have to be overtaken by everyone else in the traffic, while they are watching out for oncomig cars and cursing under theirs breathses a sunday driver, the danger of head on collision raises exponentially

But these people will still exist regardless - increasing the speed limit will not mean that sunday drivers will drive faster. Anyway, annoying as they may be, it is their right to drive cautiously and it is more the case that it is the frustration of other drivers with them, frustration leading to impetuous actions, that causes accidents - not the sunday drivers themselves.

Other drivers just need to deal with this more rationally and sensibly.
Harry
2 Nov 2010  #28
Is anyone actually suggesting that people who speed excessively and regularly are not more likely to cause or be in an accident?

It is entirely possible that they are not more likely to cause an accident: it depends completely how, where and when they speed.
Teffle 22 | 1,321
2 Nov 2010  #29
But also on conditions and other random circumstances - hazards exist and can occur at any time. The faster you drive the less chance you have of avoiding them.
Harry
2 Nov 2010  #30
Speed most certainly is a factor. But to say that a person who drives faster than the legal limit is more likely to cause an accident than a person who does not is very simply wrong.


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