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Tusk or Hollande -- a Salomonic dilemma? What will be better for Poland?


gregy741 4 | 1,204
11 Mar 2017 #61
British were right about them EU crooks.. lol democracy.Merkel pointed finger at her puppy and hes got his job extended.EU become laughable kovchoz
Harry
11 Mar 2017 #62
Tusk wasn't re-elected democratically

He was re-elected democratically, 27:1. None of your lies can change that result.

ran unopposed in the best traditon of Hitler and Stalin.

And The Dear Leader Chairman Kaczynski, who runs unopposed for the top job in the Party, just as Stalin did.

All in all, this was Poland's hour of triumph in apparent defeat.

You're completely right: this was a triumph for for Poland and a crushing double defeat for the PiSlamic State. This is not the end of the PiSlamic State; it is not the beginning of the end, but it is the end of the beginning.
cms 9 | 1,255
11 Mar 2017 #63
@gregy741

Yes - democracy in action - a qualified majority of countries and population is required. Tusk got 96 percent of countries and 92 percent of population. His recognition in Poland is that he is told he can no longer appear under a Polish flag.

Kaczynski looks ill by the way - not sure if it is stress or lack of sleep but he looks awful at the moment
gregy741 4 | 1,204
11 Mar 2017 #64
92 percent of population

those 92% of population aint got a clue who D.Tusk is. never heard of him..go ask people in spain who is d tusk
delphiandomine 88 | 18,456
11 Mar 2017 #65
Kaczynski looks ill by the way - not sure if it is stress or lack of sleep but he looks awful at the moment

He's looked like it for a while now, I've been saying that it doesn't look like he's got much left in the tank. The speech he gave on Thursday was dreadful as well, no coherence at all. It also looks like he was rattled by the counter-demonstration yesterday too.

This upcoming fight with the KRS is going to be a defining moment for him, especially as the judges have come out and said that there's no legal possibility to do what they're attempting to do.
Harry
11 Mar 2017 #66
Kaczynski looks ill by the way - not sure if it is stress or lack of sleep but he looks awful at the moment

He looks entirely too healthy to me. Perhaps he's finding it hard to deal with the sickening double defeat the PiSlamic State suffered.

those 92% of population aint got a clue who D.Tusk is.

Well, we can certainly thank The Dear Leader Chairman Kaczynski for getting Tusk's name onto the front pages of mediators newspapers across Europe!
Marsupial - | 886
11 Mar 2017 #67
Pis is now laughing stock of EU. They dont have a single friend. Time to step aside and end this charade. There's no room for these backward idiots in modern europe.
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
11 Mar 2017 #68
safe pair of hands

If one assumes that only Chancellor Merkel knows what's best for the EU, then her hand-picked errand boy Tusk indeed represents a safe pair of hands. He can be counted on to do what he's told. Fortunately, the European Council's main job is to organise EU summits, so he can't do too much harm in that area. Actually the EU could more economically outsoruce such tasks to a commercial logistics company which would surely do a better job at a fraction of the cost. But that would go agaisnt the EU spirit of letting loyal eurocrats live in luxury to ensure their loyalty. Anyway; Tusk is in good historical, even royal company. Russia's Catherine the Great, likewise a German, also had a Polish lapdog -- Poland's last king Stanisław August Poniatowski who signed away Poland's independence. Back then it was Targowica. Now it's called the "total opposition".
Harry
11 Mar 2017 #69
Pis is now laughing stock of EU.

Isn't it wonderful?

They dont have a single friend.

Not even San Escobar voted with Poland against Tusk.
mafketis 25 | 9,313
11 Mar 2017 #70
If one assumes

that you're suffering from a massive case of "sour grapes" then one expects you to write what you just wrote.

Tusk was a popular prime minister has been a popular whatever-it-is-he-is-now and Poland blew a massive amount of goodwill and respect because of JK's all-consuming irrational hatred for him.

The government just did massive damage to Poland's image and interests in the EU with their little stunt.

I only hope Saryusz-Wolski finds comfort in destroying his career for JK's destructive toxic desire for vengeance (for what? who knows? who cares?)
TicTacToe
11 Mar 2017 #71
He believes in the federal state and does what his master's request, that is why he was re-elected.

A tyrant like all the others, the Blair of Polish politics.
Harry
11 Mar 2017 #72
I only hope Saryusz-Wolski finds comfort in destroying his career for JK's destructive toxic desire for vengeance (for what? who knows? who cares?)

I'm sure that the PiSlamic State will find a place at the trough for him, lots of seats on supervisory boards of state-owned and state-controlled companies etc.
Marsupial - | 886
11 Mar 2017 #73
Tusk s working for united europe. Opposite to tories and that commie le pen.
mafketis 25 | 9,313
11 Mar 2017 #74
will find a place at the trough for him

I dunno, JK was pretty dismissive of him when asked if S-W would be able to join PiS saying in effect no promises had been made.

The US government that PiS most reminds me of is GW Bush, almost everyone who tried to work with him ended up burned and regretting their contact with him.
Marsupial - | 886
11 Mar 2017 #75
Le pen, may, pislamic state, hungarian peasant. All in the bin in the next few years.
gregy741 4 | 1,204
11 Mar 2017 #76
or EU we see.trend is good.soon will be game over to that EU kolchoz
Marsupial - | 886
11 Mar 2017 #77
Everybody can be fooled once. Poles can be fooled by the pis party. Brits by brexit, french by communist money trying to ruin their country,. It wont last. We are all smarter than that. Next election in the usa all the idle dummies who didnt vote will turn up in droves. We have the same problem here but is already being reversed and actioned. Tonight western Australia got rid of the backward losers who were in for ages and rejected the right wing troll also running. Everyone is waking up everywhere.
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
11 Mar 2017 #78
for united europe

United as a Gemran protectorate. Journalists from several EU countries called the vote a tactical, staying, wait-and-see move. Not all the countries favour permanent German rule over the communtiy as it is now, and even less so over a federalised United States of Europe ruled from Brussels with strings pulled in Berlin. Discussion on reforms has yet to begin, so what do they have to lose by keeping Frau Merkel happy a bit longer.
Marsupial - | 886
11 Mar 2017 #79
So much better than the alternative.
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
11 Mar 2017 #80
going to be a defining moment

We all recall how you said in Oct 2015 that the PiS govt wouldn't last two months. Then it was until spring, and then always until some major turning point. Now it is the KRS. The only image that comes to mind is that the mangy curs* will howl, bark and even snap, but the caravan of good change moves steadfastly forward. That isn't all that surprisng consdering how fed up the nation was after 8 years of broken promises, abuses, scams, mismanagement and misrule on every front.

*Had your serving of Pedigree Pal today?
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
11 Mar 2017 #81
a massive amount of goodwill

Indeed, all the foreign banks and retail chains,assembly plants on free land and with cheap manpower and other outside forces bleeding Poland dry had nothing but praise for Tuskite rule.
Marsupial - | 886
11 Mar 2017 #82
Omg p3 you are a nasty man! Anyway, how can it be two months it has to be until the election. Besides all that this issue is closed and done. Its time for....next.
Ironside 50 | 11,110
11 Mar 2017 #83
Pis is now laughing stock of EU.

Really? I think your are delusional. Anyhow it doesn't matter as long as Poland is standing up in her interests.
There three kinds of people that have issue with the fact that Poland made a strong diplomatic stand:
- those who are illogically biased - progressives.
- those in whose interests is to keep Poland down.
- morons with lackeys mentality.
which group do you belong to?
Marsupial - | 886
11 Mar 2017 #84
Your typical idiot post. Nothing new.
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
11 Mar 2017 #85
which group do you belong to?

The KODérastes, Fédérastes, Schetynians and Petruites as well as PF's supporters of that subversive fifth column belong to all the categories you have listed. They lack a single positive programme except for trying to get back to the trough and are only good at undermining, sabotaging and badmouthing those that are actually doing something for the Polish nation.
gregy741 4 | 1,204
11 Mar 2017 #86
The KODérastes, Fédérastes, Schetynians and Petruites as well as PF's

bleeeee gross..do they really exist??? its disgusting
i heard them horror stories from Poland,but tho thy just scaring children .
mafketis 25 | 9,313
11 Mar 2017 #87
Anyhow it doesn't matter as long as Poland is standing up in her interests.

Chasing some bee in Jaroslaw's bonnet is hardly what I'd call "interests".

Very poor showing and poor statesmanship.
Crow 148 | 9,283
11 Mar 2017 #88
Reward to those who resist is pain. Reward to those who obey is pain.

See, resistance is better choice.
Ironside 50 | 11,110
11 Mar 2017 #89
Chasing some bee in Jaroslaw's bonnet

Its not about a bonnet. Tusk showed that he'll not work with the current Polish government,quite the opposite whenever possible he would stand against them even if such a stance would be result in derailment of the Polish national interest.

So, Polish government had no choice.
Crow 148 | 9,283
11 Mar 2017 #90
Tusk showed that he'll not work with the current Polish government,quite the opposite whenever possible he would stand against them even if such a stance would be result in derailment of the Polish national interest.

Good definition of situation. True, Polish government had no choice.

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