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Poland is the source of horsemeat in burgers?

jon357 63 | 14,255
10 Feb 2013 #121
However, bribery to meat inspectors has happened in the past.

Doubtless. I'm saying a little less than I know here. I'd be surprised if it still happens though.
citizen67 6 | 191
10 Feb 2013 #122
We don't hav a culture of bribery here.
jon357 63 | 14,255
10 Feb 2013 #123
A fraction of that in PL, where it's rife, however it does happen.
Tim Bucknall 7 | 98
10 Feb 2013 #124
Romania is the guilty party apparently, Poland is off the hook
pawian 164 | 10,317
10 Feb 2013 #125
It is going fast, isn`t it? :):):) Poland, Romania, France etc. I wonder if they will also find horse meat in whale burgers sold to Eskimos.
jon357 63 | 14,255
10 Feb 2013 #126
This one will run and run - and we haven't even got to the tainted chicken yet :-(
citizen67 6 | 191
10 Feb 2013 #127
A fraction of that in PL, where it's rife, however it does happen.

I hav never bribed anyone in my life including any c*unts from the council.
monia 3 | 212
10 Feb 2013 #128
Europe is flooded with corruption within food processing plants and poisonous food . Blaming Poland as a source country in the latest meat scandal is unfair and is just buncombe . In months ahead we will find out that it is just a tip of an iceberg what`s going on in this sector .

When the Munich entrepreneur George Bruner learned about the control of his company , he went down to the basement of his villa, threw the tow rope over the pipe mounted on the ceiling and tightened noose around his neck. In his fridge the police found 120 tons of rotten meat and 43 tons of rotten vegetables. All this was to hit the German and foreign tables (including, perhaps, Polish). Bruner was the supplier for the 2550 customers across Europe.

"There is no reason to panic. Though the meat was spoiled, but not so as to cause bodily injury" - reassured Horst Seehofer, Federal Minister for nutrition, agriculture and consumer protection. But in Germany, no one believes him anymore.

Meat reusable
Repackaging expired meat is a daily practice of many processing plants in Europe. Most of the staff is silent for fear of losing their jobs. Eighteen months ago, thanks to the information given by a worker of one of the German companies there were disclosed dealings of processing and trading of poultry rotten meat . Police searched more than 20 companies, including in Lower Saxony, North Rhine-Westphalia, Berlin, Bremen and Karlsruhe. In the company in Lastrup, holder of the EU certificates, the officers came upon past chickens and turkeys thawed on the film spread on the floor. Frozen food was to be delivered to the stores as fresh meat.

At the end of last year in Germany the scandal erupted in addition to meat products from slaughter waste, unfit for human consumption. These discards are indicated by K3, can be used only for canning for dogs, cats and fertilizer and biogas. In one of companies discovered 500 tonnes of waste K3 waiting to alteration. Producers brought in leftovers from the slaughter of such from Switzerland as food for dogs, and then processed and sold in the country, as well as for export under a different form, such as the pizzas.for German, French, Italian and Hungarian consumers who ate 2.6 thousand. tons of K3. No wonder that - according to research carried out in May this year - the British are eager to convert with their pets on plates, because the dogs were served food (food that is often prepared at home) they consider to be more valuable than those that they eat.
10 Feb 2013 #129
Look, every place and their uncle has to offer a burger, and each burger has to compete with a kajillion more on price. The customers of the burgers generally are not the most discerning, and as long as you pump enough lipids and salts into SOME kind of meat, you can get a greasily comparable product. There's an "ew" factor to using horses, it harkens back to the days of old woman on welfare eating cat food to supplement her protein. The panic of from "mad cow disease" killed a few humans and several thousands of cattle, and that was BRITISH meat-packing at work, remember. The UK was involved what my dad called feeding themselves both ends of the cow, from noses to buttholes. Was someone bribed in Britain, or were they just ******** at setting their own standards? You wanna be sure what's in your meat? Pick it out yourself and have your butcher grind it for you.
OP peterweg 36 | 2,316
10 Feb 2013 #130
We don't hav a culture of bribery here.

Except in some notorious cases in the past, in food processing.

Romania is the guilty party apparently, Poland is off the hook

Nobody is off the hook. What you have is a load of buck passing.

They have setup a system to allow responsibility to fall in some gray area where nobody can blamed so they all can get away with these sorts of scams.

As the UK government has made clear, the ultimate responsibility is with the retailers - its their job to make sure the food is what they say it is an not blame their suppliers.
citizen67 6 | 191
11 Feb 2013 #131
Except in some notorious cases in the past, in food processing.

Really? can you link me, i would be very interested?
jon357 63 | 14,255
11 Feb 2013 #132
Nobody is off the hook. What you have is a load of buck passing.

Indeed. That and people feeling their whole country is being maligned because of some dishonest individuals.

the Munich entrepreneur George Bruner

Just because something is done in one country doesn't justify it happening in another.
pawian 164 | 10,317
11 Feb 2013 #133
Hey, guys, what are the newest findings??
11 Feb 2013 #134
In retaliation, the Poles made pierogi out of Seabiscuit.
pawian 164 | 10,317
11 Feb 2013 #135

Is it a kind of seaweed? From one of my textbooks I know they make seaweed bread in Wales....
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,712
11 Feb 2013 #136
pawian, Seabiscuit was a famous racehorse, like Shergar of the burgers.
and weirdly lavabread is not bread, more a kind of green gloop.
tasty though.....
pawian 164 | 10,317
11 Feb 2013 #137
Thanks! I love such cute details!:):):)

PS. Shyt, what is gloop????
11 Feb 2013 #138
what is gloop?

Gloop is neither a solid nor a liquid. Technically, it is considered a colloid, like toothpaste.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,712
11 Feb 2013 #139
i will send you a tin Pawian.
OP peterweg 36 | 2,316
11 Feb 2013 #140
Horsemeat scandal: How often does food fraud happen?

"What a mess the processed meat trade seems to have got into," says Tim Lang, professor of food policy at London's City University. "The much-vaunted control of big companies over their supply chains is looking tattered."

There has always been food fraud. Once upon a time it might have been watered down beer or bread adulterated with sawdust.

pawian 164 | 10,317
11 Feb 2013 #141
Gloop is neither a solid nor a liquid. Technically, it is considered a colloid, like toothpaste.
i will send you a tin Pawian.

When in US, I saw a silly movie called Blob. I think it must be it.

If that`s the case, thank you, no. :):):):):) I prefer to eat horse sausage from Poland:

Barney 14 | 1,469
12 Feb 2013 #142
Any news on English horse meat ?

Slaughterhouse and meat firm raided

The West Yorkshire plant was thought to have supplied horse carcasses to the Aberystwyth plant, which were then allegedly sold on as beef for kebabs and burgers.

Both West Yorkshire and Dyfed-Powys police entered the premises with the FSA.

Mr Paterson said: "This is absolutely shocking. It's totally unacceptable if any business in the UK is defrauding the public by passing off horsemeat as beef.

pawian 164 | 10,317
12 Feb 2013 #143
Slaughterhouse and meat firm raided

Wow! The scandal spirals in an uncontrolled way! I like it! :):):) As well as the commentary from your BBC link:

Until now, ministers have portrayed the horsemeat scandal as a labelling issue which emanated from the continent. On the day Environment Secretary Owen Paterson yet again defended his handling of the crisis, the problem moved much closer to home. The raids on British firms in the investigations of alleged mislabelling will certainly pile further pressure on Mr Paterson to calm fears. While he has talked of criminal elements being involved, the finger so far has been pointed at culprits elsewhere in Europe for causing products here to be contaminated.
isthatu2 4 | 2,704
13 Feb 2013 #144
Aye lads,we didnt want to get left behind in all this, Yorkshire,a new source of nag meat ,sold to Wales.
jon357 63 | 14,255
13 Feb 2013 #145
sold to Wales.

You mean exported to wales.
smurf 39 | 1,981
13 Feb 2013 #146
So it seams Britain, Wales, is the source:

The owner is claiming they are allowed slaughter horses and didn't know it was being sold as beef, maybe he didn't but someone then must've been doctoring the labels to say beef.

Sorry, link is behind a paywall.

Here are others:
OP peterweg 36 | 2,316
13 Feb 2013 #147
A month ago, when horse DNA was first found in some Irish beefburgers, the British reacted as they tend to when confronted with a scandal: they joked. It was hard to escape the torrent of puns, Shergar references and gags involving horses walking into pubs. Some of them were even funny.

But the smiles are starting to wear thin now as it becomes increasingly apparent thatthe scandal is far bigger than first imagined, and that it doesn't just involve untrustworthy foreign producers.

"The world's third biggest retailer, Tesco, didn't know what was going into its food. Neither did Findus. This is not one bad apple in the barrel - it is so much bigger than that."


Hey Jon, are you going to admit you were wrong?
jon357 63 | 14,255
14 Feb 2013 #148
Until Poland has been ruled out from the supply chain by an independent investigation, I'm right on the mark.

Your quote proves my point though - that in the UK there a no cover-ups.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,712
14 Feb 2013 #149
of course there are cover-ups in the UK jon, on all kinds of levels and no only to do with food.
if you think otherwise you are deluding yourself.
smurf 39 | 1,981
14 Feb 2013 #150
that in the UK there a no cover-ups.

Sorry Jon, but I think it was a cover-up, and for some time and it has been discovered now.
Good to see the English cops coming down on it hard tho, they do love to put on a good show, don't they.

OK, so the shops and producers didn't know about it (we are told), but someone was, it looks to me anyway, doctoring labels. That to me is a cover-up.

The BBC have an interesting graphic, where Poland isn't present at all.

Horsemeat Map

If you follow the link to the site, you can get info regarding details of how each different place was involved.

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