Should Poland Remove Visa Restrictions?

I didnt mean you Brat Boy, I said Butt Boy as in Brutal.

Why?


If their numbers rise further as they do now they will get in another generation the democratic power to change our Europe after their will, and there is not a thing we could do about it...legally...


I don't have to take everything smiling...


Oh how I hate this...I wish Butcher would change his username! ;)

Not all Russians are communists, not all Muslims think that Sharia law must be the law.


I know but you are clever and name calling is beneath you.


I wish Butcher would contribute or leave.

Edit* are there any countries in the world with Sharia law?

Iran

Pakistan

Saudi Arabi

Nigeria

Sudan

Iraq (prior to 2003)

Egypt

Our Europe existed before you or I came on it. And it will exist even after we leave.

Migration is nothing new ...

Infact Europe will consume them ... they can jump around for some time ... as the chicken does when thrown in a drum.


That is not racism ... the proud part is the point of ignition for racism actually. Cut out 'proud' and put 'happy/content' ..it will become better I feel.


Exactly ... these things come and go ... neither have any place in the modern world.

I don't see what assimilation of my country with Netherlands has to do with racial integration, maybe you can explain?

to go ontopic again:

Tell us why you want to have anymore 3rd world people in Poland?

Have a look at Belgium, Netherlands, France, UK, Sweden.
Do you want the same sh#t in Poland too?

Maybe german experiences are speaking here...the third generation moslems is often more fanatical and less inclined to integrate than the first one.
Wasn't just the IslamforUK banned in Great Britain too?

That all spells doom...


you forgot to add Great Britain!

telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2957428/Sharia-law-courts-operating-in-Britain.html



*shuffles with feet*

Orly?


Guess whose regulations are there:



Exceptions never have been nor are nor will be general rule.

The whole world belongs to Mankind ... each and everyone of us. Neither of us own it completely.

Evolution is the name of everything.

Humans are priceless gems ... not ****s. **** is when the gem is covered in **** to stink ... as you stink in our words.

Think about it deeply ... do some humane stuff ... its winter and there are lots of ways you can contribute! ... stop hating ... revive and develep yourself. And if you feel there is no sense in what you read here ... then I guess you are a wall.

I have heard this from many people in London too.

I find this interesting and have talked about it with people.
It seems (no certain) that the first generation want a better life, go to London to work their butts off and carve out a life for themselves, the second generation are in direct contact with the first but the third are disconnected from their roots, a foreigner in their own country and the country that their family came from. Like those British kids who did the 7 July 2005 London bombings.

I don't know how valid this observation is but I have talked to several people about it.


There are a lot of crazy people in every big city, I would imagine there are many many banned groups, combat 18 for an example. I don't know much about banned groups in the U.K.

But today the favorite people to fear are Muslims.


I do the same thing sometimes, don't worry.

Well, if Whitey thought like it is was called conquest, imperial exploitation and alot of other things.


Why don't you start with yourself first?

Lodz_The_Boat

There are some places in the world where many cultures live together, NYC, London, Brussels.

If that is really your dream, i respect that. But i wonder: why not living in some multicultural city instead of hoping that Poland will also "enjoy" multiculturalism one day?

The time is there for every country of the world to meet their destiny. And my country will also meet the same... I was not born in USA by the way.


You know very well I did ... and I constantly strive for it.

Those regulations have nothing to do with the policy on issuing long term (cat. D) visas - which are *not* Schengen visas and therefore nothing to do with the EU.

The "Karta Polaka" is one example of how Poland made access to Poland easier for ethnic Poles without granting full Polish citizenship to them. Yet this Karta Polaka has nothing to do with the EU or Brussels.

You may also want to look at the German policy towards residency of the "Guest Workers" - again, nothing to do with the EU.

Ive discovered that many racists are insecure in my personal circle people that i have known and spoken to. The insecurities lie in many areas and are driven by fear, fear of women not liking them and preferring a black man for example, fear of a black man beating them up, fear of a black man being smarter.


Whilst Britian has extremeties for and against, i still support racial integration. Its ok for us to keep our nice designer clothes and expensive cars at their expense, but not OK when they want to have a piece of the pie. The modern World has interest in keeping poor countries poor, why do you think 40% of the wealth is owned by 1% of the population.


Whats the alternative? keep them segregated for ever?


I dont really but if they choose to come i believe its only fair that they should have the right to better themselves and live comfortably as we all have. We should not live by Jungle (the strongest survive) rules.

That's just your opinion. You as an immigrant to Poland should respect that the majority of Polish people don't want multiculturalism.

If you don't respect this opinion, then maybe you should rethink if you really choose the right country to move to. ;)

Honestly....if we could expect third world immigrants to make our Europe a better place there wouldn't be such fears or insecurities as you call them.

The everyday experiences speak another language. Only with alot of good will someone would be able to oversee all that downgrading of property and land and social environment happening wherever immigrants gather, where natives flee, where ghettoes are being build.

Do you honestly think this "insecurity" is of fear the black man is being smarter???
And do you know that between those who voted against the minarets in the Swiss referendum are proportional more women than men? They have to fear the most from a islamic power, if you call that insecurity then so be it.

But in Germany there is a point of being fear of immigrant violence...that much is true.
Most of the most brutal senseless acts are done by immigrant youth...even the german media can't help it but report it as it is.


It would be okay if the long term development isn't pointing to downgrading of the UK to their level.
Who will bake the pie if UK becomes like a third world country? Where will they immigrate to next?


Control the immigration even more...let only people in who will really be an asset to the society and who have already proven that they are willing to accept the main native culture and customs and want to integrate.

Chuck out immigrants who won't integrate!

I think this what UK does by former colonies,now war in Iraq etc.I don't find any motivation in exploiting the cigans.

Ahh diplomacy at its best, i agree...more or less..

Controlled multicultural integration

Its OK for them to have a piece of pie IF they're willing to assimilate and conform to our ways, after all its our country, if they want to have a piece of pie and keep their way of life which collides with ours they can GTFO.

You Brits did the most idiotic things, you allowed in people who's way of life, belief system and whole cultural background cancels any chance of long term assimilation, by giving them money and power you're not elevating them to your economic status, you're giving them tools to eventually take over your economy and make you pariahs in your own country.


Amen, a draconian law is needed, these people have to integrate or else give them economic and cultural encouragement yes, but have a sharp stick if they wont accept the carrot.

You are talking to a Polish person here LTB.

You are the immigrant in Poland and you pretend to talk on behalf of the Majority of polish people? that's a laugh.
You don't respect a Polish person's view and you are asking him to leave his own country.

Boy oh boy, you got nerve.

:D ... seems like ur new here. Or maybe you just have no idea. Well I am a Pole... and with a Polish background. Not an immigrant ... you are one perhaps... congratulations. I wish you were behind bars. Not for being an immigrant, but for being a pest.

There's nothing wrong with multiculturalism but instead of mindlessly opening borders to everyone like UK did we need to realise that we need to be mindfull of who we let in.

Good words. We can see same self-similarity also in any so-called modern world country itself. Take UK. 80% of wealth is owned by 5% of population. Take Saudi Arabia. Not different, even worse, 1% of population owns 90% of wealth. Their few minority enjoying luxury while their folks are poor. Same for UK, same for the world.

About the integration:

If I go to UK or Italy or Poland, they will try to integrate me into the christianity by using money if not fast, slowly. If I go to Saudi Arabia, they will try to integrate me into the islam by using money, if not fast, slowly. I am not sure if I am asked to be integrated into Jewish if I go to Israel by using money. I been challenging enough not to be integrated into Islam or to any religion here and I am a little lucky cause of a good secularity here in Turkey, though I still feel community pressure of 50% muslims (directly by 10% and indirectly by 40%), but, who cares.

Can not all these heaven sellers convince people about the heavens out of the world without using money? They are very riches. Ha yes, they are "working" too much. They are not winning only this world, but also planning to win the next worlds. We will see if they can convince anyone to heavens in global socialism which will give full freedom to all religions (but, without using any money.)

my bad, i thought you wrote you were born in USA, but now i see i missed the word 'not'.


This shows you are on the same low level as SeanBM. Congratulations!


I don't talk on behalf of anyone, i just confront you hippy dreamers with the opinion of the majority of Polish people. And you obviously don't like it nor respect this opinion. Poor you. :D

One of the reasons i like Poland is the fact that many Polish people have the courage to be selective what people are welcome in their country (European citizens) and what people are not welcome. Only stupid leftist people think that European immigrants and african/arab etc. immigrants should be treated equally, despite big differences in behaviour/attitude/education/productivity/adaptation etc.

I thank Polish people for welcoming me. I've spoken to many nice Polish people who were very hospitable to me. :)

At the same time i found out many of those are not welcoming arabs and africans. :)

Does that make me a racist? Oh no. Nothing against arabs and africans, as long as they don't come to my territory!

Your talking on behalf of the majority of Polish people and you are not a Pole but an immigrant here.
You have problems with simple logic, this sentence really shows what kind of person you are.


You are a racist, yes and Poland is not your territory, you are NOT A POLE.

For extreme-left hippies like you, not for normal people. I don't give a f#ck about your stupid definitions.


Since internal EU borders are open, all EU citizens can call the whole EU their territory.
Isn't that nice?

You are an immigrant, no matter what way you look at it :)

I welcome polish immigrants.In fact I regard them as race advancers and beautifiers.

@ SeanBM: guess which groups in multicultural countries are responsible for 80-90% of (often violent) street crime, robberies, murders, rapes.

You are obviously going to say the blacks and I am obviously going to say not in Poland and you are obviously going to pick out some crap and i am going to say we are talking about Poland and you are going to say we are talking about immigration, at which point I will point out that you are an immigrant and you will just be the racist you are and blame blacks.

So to save us all a lot of trouble, I will write this post :)