Priests are paid by the Gov't in Poland.

Atheism and agnosticism aren`t religion.

Nope thats still only your opinion.


What would you know about that ?


Thats not about a picture but certain attitude - they are redundant waste - a plenty of those left behind during history of Poles.


another ignorant half-product of your revolution Jonny :)eh?

that would be it.

re·li·gion (r-ljn)
n.
1.
a. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.
b. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.
2. The life or condition of a person in a religious order.
3. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.
4. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.

Seems like they would qualify under 2, 3, and 4...

Why? It's insane - taxes should be used for different things than beliefs of a part (even if major) of society. Roads, schools, infrastructure, fire fighters, police. Not the 'services' offered by the Church.


Yup.


Yes, and 1,04 % of EVERYONE'S taxes is given to the Roman Catholic Church whether you like it or not, aside many funds, and for example priests for the army and in hospitals, that are paid (enormous money, especially in the army) by the gov't.

Pour away ls. They are paid to indoctrinate children in the dogma of the Roman Catholic Church. They have no obligation to do anything esle. If a parent does not wish their child to be indoctrinated, they can opt out. Wouldn't it be great if kids learned about other ways of explaining the world?

Very well said!


Hahahahah.


- how nice to say such a thing about other people - that really shows your attitude to people of a different opinion than yours! Redundant waste? - Hey, maybe you'll open a concentration camp for them some day and get rid of this "redundant waste"? Because that's your attitude.


Abuse.
I can only agree with your post.


We can assume that according to you a good, true Pole is Catholic, none else.


- in some parishes even twice per mass! I've seen that myself.
Maintenance? If they didn't build castles but normal buildings they would cost less. Look as any shopping mall or hypermarkets like Tesco's - it's cheaper, and fits in more people.


That's your only answer to Boletus's long post?! Wow, you really have nothing.

Yes. I didn't get an answer last time and I don't expect one this time.

because the answer is obvious, just read your own posts.

The answer is not at all obvious to me. If you are going to insult somebody (twice), back it up properly.

Plenty. Poland has 40 million people - there's no such thing as 'true' Pooles who hold the same beliefs as yourself and others somehow 'less Polish' whose opinion is not yours.


My revolution?


Even if you opt out, they still give the same amount of your tax towards building that giant temple in Wilanow.


There has always been the less catholic side. And the world (including Poland) is changing very fast indeed.

Revolution you support.


Yep, eventually crumbling away.


Isn't that always the case? Some things change all the time and some are constant.

The world is going mad if you ask me. Take my example, my views were left-wing at least according to standards from 1930'(patriotic left) runs in the family, but the world's changes and its crazy notions pushed me into conservatism camp.:)


what are you taking part in RCC ceremonies if you hold such opinions about RCC and you are mocking priests ?

Quite the opposite. In the eleven years I've lived here I've seen a very noticeable change in attitudes to both priests and the RC Church. Attendances are falling, and for good reason. I talk to a lot of people about changes in Polish society on a regular basis, and the subject of political, greedy or out-of-touch clergy comes up often.


I took part in a baptism at the request of dear friends. Should I stay away from weddings and funerals?

Its one trend there are other not necessary noticeable by you, and 11 years is not enough to say which way all that goes.
but eventually like always those fringes will crumble away often with people.


You shouldn't play any active part in those.

Just gentle, logical sensible change.


Somehow I doubt that...

Is it really that easy? I ask because I remember someone I knew who was married to a non-Catholic that eventually moved to Canada because of this very issue. I guess the experience could differ according to location.

If he/she said so, then he/she lied. The reason for emigration wasn`t the religious persecution in Poland - it was purely a desire to have a better life in Canada.

Come on.

There is no ban on that, come on. No one can forbid an atheist to attend a mass. So they can show up on Catholic weddings, funerals and ceremonies, if they deicide to.

Come on, can't you read ? Active - means pretending to be Catholic or Christian, you can alway go do your gawking thingy.
Where are you from ? Norway ? That would explain that their have been alway a bit wired, something not quite right yo there. Pagans for most of the time.

Funny notion they have about children, that think that anybody could be a better parent than actual parents.
:)


:DDDD


Somehow I knew you would. Nobody likes to do something in vain.

One day you'll make sense. But not yet.

got a look in the mirror?

Why on Earth would an atheist pretend to be believing this?! That made me laugh.


I don't have one, I don't need one. But I see you have it, and it's big.


What's that has to do with the topic, eh? Ran out of your "arguments" [meaning insults in your case]?!


And thank god for that! :D


Not right? If you can't comprehand something, it doesn't mean it's not right.

is no right, not enough sun makes youz mad like a hare in March.


Nothing, but it has to do with you .


To become godfather for one/ dude for number of reasons

Becoming a godfather means responsibilities, and mostly: helping parents raise child in catholic faith. No atheist would do this, as it would contradict what they stand for.

Some do, hence I call them hypocrites !

Well, if some of them do so - I agree with you on this.