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Poland: The poor get poorer - and next year will be worse


Harry
4 Dec 2012 #31
Barney, you're entirely right: there are lots of things the govt should spend less on so they can spend more on fighting poverty. One example that springs to mind is those f-16s.

But the only one the OP mentioned was the RCC....
Barney 15 | 1,472
4 Dec 2012 #32
I don't care what you call that institution.

Obviously you do otherwise you wouldn’t have chosen that word.

The OP decided to bring the Catholic Church into a debate about poverty in Poland based on his objection to a vanity project. and all we got was Catholic bashing with no other issues addressed. What measures do you think Poland should implement to eliminate poverty?

Do you think all Poland's problems come from the Catholic Church?

Edit

One example that springs to mind is those f-16s.

At last a bit of sanity, I too was thinking of the military budget.
TheOther 6 | 3,818
4 Dec 2012 #33
...singling out one community from all the belief systems out there is discriminatory and bigoted.

As I said before: I'm not talking about individual believers, I'm pointing the finger at the bureaucracy of the church which is represented by the pope and his minions. I don't see how it can be discriminatory to call a pedophile and the organization that covers his ass criminal.

Catholic bashing with no other issues addressed

That was only a reaction to Ironside's silly remark to show respect for the RCC.

What measures do you think Poland should implement to eliminate poverty?

Create jobs, what else? Give people a reason to stay in the country.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163
4 Dec 2012 #34
More than 2m Poles live in poverty

Rather more than 30m.

The majority of Poles do not go to church.

Fascinating. Source ?
OP Varsovian 92 | 634
5 Dec 2012 #35
Rz reports that Poland plans to spend some PLN 100 billion on defence over the next ten years
Harry
5 Dec 2012 #36
Much of which will be wasted. I wonder how many billion Poland could sell its un-needed f-16s for.

Fascinating. Source ?

https://polishforums.com/news/poland-sunday-mass-judaeo-leftist-60404/

"the latest findings of the Catholic Church's Statistical Institute which said that in 2011 only 40% of Poles regularly attended Sunday mass - down from 41% in 2010"
milky 13 | 1,657
5 Dec 2012 #37
down from 41% in 2010"

This is the best news I've heard in relation to Poland in a long time.
berni23 7 | 379
5 Dec 2012 #38
Catholic Church's Statistical Institute

only 40% of Poles regularly attended Sunday mass

And i still doubt its so high.
Harry
5 Dec 2012 #39
Does anybody know where one might find a chart showing the percentage of Poles who live in poverty? It might be nice to draw a graph showing the changes in the percentage of Poles who live in poverty and the changes in the percentage of Poles who attend church.

And thank you to my anonymous benefactor!

graph showing poverty

So there may be less God in Poland but there's also less poverty.
Ironside 49 | 10,461
5 Dec 2012 #40
So there may be less God in Poland but there's also less poverty.

It doesn't work that way otherwise North Korea would be the richest country in the world!


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