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What part of Poland's image do you think is the most exportable?


masks98 27 | 289
16 Dec 2011 #1
I've toyed with the idea of opening up a small shop here in NYC to sell clothing and other odd things that are either from Poland or inspired by it. Initially I thought of clothing with prints that evoke a sense of Poland's rebellious attitude under communism and other symbols from polands communism era. like cool, well designed prints of people or even just slogans in polish. But I'm having a hard time coming up with a list of things that can be associated with Poland. Such things can be objects, pictures or slogans that might inspire pride or admiration for poland, while also poking fun at it.

But in general this has got me thinking about the things about Poland (past and present) that can be exported in an appealing way, kind of like how apple pie is associated with USA, or Yankee caps, rock stars like hendrix, morrison or elvis, nike, wall street, hollywood, etc..

any ideas?
pip 10 | 1,660
16 Dec 2011 #3
a sausage?
irishborn 1 | 9
16 Dec 2011 #4
a population's ability to think outside the box

peoples doggedness in the face of force communism

super economy (currently)
OP masks98 27 | 289
16 Dec 2011 #5
Kaczynski face.

hehe...
Wroclaw 44 | 5,385
16 Dec 2011 #6
What part of Poland's image do you think is the most exportable

winged horsemen. on posters, t-shirts, mugs, ceramics, metal figures. flags. football attire.
Des Essientes 7 | 1,291
16 Dec 2011 #7
Polish talent in the realm of graphic design is renown. You should sell quality prints of Polish posters and most especially Polish movie posters. See this forum's thread here: The Legacy of Polish Poster design

And the article that inspired it here: smashingmagazine.com/2010/01/17/the-legacy-of-polish-poster-design/
f stop 25 | 2,513
16 Dec 2011 #8
There is also a rich history of Polish graffiti. I like the Polska Walczy sign.
FUZZYWICKETS 8 | 1,883
16 Dec 2011 #9
That's hardly marketable. you can't sell Polish graffiti in NYC. nobody cares.
Wroclaw 44 | 5,385
16 Dec 2011 #10
would posters not sell ? i don't mean in huge numbers though.
FUZZYWICKETS 8 | 1,883
16 Dec 2011 #11
posters of what?

also, what makes these posters "Polish"?
Des Essientes 7 | 1,291
16 Dec 2011 #12
posters of what?

The subject of the posters may be of almost anything. In most cases it would be the clever design of the posters that the purchaser would value.

also, what makes these posters "Polish"?

Being created by Polish people and usually containing Polish text.
Wroclaw 44 | 5,385
16 Dec 2011 #13
posters of what?

i meant posters of graffiti images
f stop 25 | 2,513
16 Dec 2011 #14
That's hardly marketable. you can't sell Polish graffiti in NYC. nobody cares.

posters of what?

Having a bad day? How about your own suggestion for every one you shot down?
The OP mentioned slogans in Polish, so assumption was that the market was people that actually know something about Poland.
FUZZYWICKETS 8 | 1,883
16 Dec 2011 #15
Des Essientes wrote:

Being created by Polish people and usually containing Polish text.

Which simply isn't marketable in NYC. this is why I'm asking in the first place. T-shirts with writing on it and subject matter that only Poles understand? I don't think that's a good marketing scheme.
Des Essientes 7 | 1,291
16 Dec 2011 #16
Which simply isn't marketable in NYC. this is why I'm asking in the first place. T-shirts with writing on it and subject matter that only Poles understand?

Not T-Shirts, Fuzzywickets, posters, and people are not put off by foreign text in a beautifully designed poster as is evinced by the many French language posters to be found in American homes. I attended an exhibit of Polish posters at a local museum, which you can read about in the first link provided in post #7 of this thread, and believe me when I say that if Toulouse-Lautrec's poster art can sell so well in America then so can the supremely clever poster art of the Polish school.
southern 75 | 7,096
16 Dec 2011 #17
Americans would mostly identify with a picture of Doda.
a.k.
16 Dec 2011 #18
posters of what?

also, what makes these posters "Polish"?

There might be some classic PRL era posters. Also the political posters of 1920s are a good piece of work.
As for the symbols: Wałęsa can be a good theme for some pop-art t-shirts (he is alsmost like a Marylin Monroe), or some folk designs (check łowickie wycinanki - in Poland they are very popular patterns used from jewellery to interior design).

masks98
One question, who are the suppose clients? Polish Americans or non-Polish Americans?
delphiandomine 88 | 18,475
17 Dec 2011 #19
and people are not put off by foreign text in a beautifully designed poster as is evinced by the many French language posters to be found in American homes.

Alas, you forget something - French is sexy and cool, Polish just...isn't.

Now, if you want to sell something to Polish-Americans, this is what sells - Dumb products for dumb people.
amcapol - | 12
17 Dec 2011 #20
What about white eagle , patatoe and sausage ...together
Wroclaw 44 | 5,385
17 Dec 2011 #21
limited editions of photographs and prints. framed and large. mountains, city views, lakes etc.
Des Essientes 7 | 1,291
17 Dec 2011 #22
Alas, you forget something - French is sexy and cool, Polish just...isn't.

That is a profoundly stupid and Polonophobic statement.

dumb people

Say stupid things like you.
JonnyM 11 | 2,620
17 Dec 2011 #23
That is a profoundly stupid and Polonophobic statement.

Really? See many Poles, do you? In Europe we actually see the real thing. And though there are some virtues in what we see, sexy and cool are not among them.
Des Essientes 7 | 1,291
17 Dec 2011 #24
And though there are some virtues in what we see, sexy and cool are not among them.

So you will admit that Poles have some virtues but not those two. I suppose you think Poles should count themselves lucky that a person from the enlightened West deigns to grant them even that, but let me tell you that you are making an utter fool of yourself generalizing about a nation of millions of people like that. You are a bigot and you should be ashamed of yourself.
Polsyr 6 | 769
17 Dec 2011 #25
I sell Polish industrial products in export markets all the time. You need to build an image of high quality and low price, which is largely true for Polish industrial products.
a.k.
17 Dec 2011 #26
sexy and cool

Maybe not sexy but Moho carpet is cool. I think that maksks should look for Polish design products and set up an apparaler & interior store. I think that's what can be sold, especially that modern Polish designers recently like to get their inspiration from folklore... and it really works!
JonnyM 11 | 2,620
17 Dec 2011 #27
generalizing about a nation of millions of people like that.

Have you actually been to Poland in order to see what part of their image be exportable? No, thought not. Or know first-hand how the million recent migrants are perceived in the UK? Another no? That's right.

As I said, sexy and cool isn't part of anyone's perception.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,475
17 Dec 2011 #28
That is a profoundly stupid and Polonophobic statement.

Mods?

Say stupid things like you.

Mods?

Really? See many Poles, do you? In Europe we actually see the real thing. And though there are some virtues in what we see, sexy and cool are not among them.

Indeed, anyone living here for...I dunno, two seconds can see that "sexy and cool" is most definitely not Polish. Such attempts in Poland tend to be utterly laughable - in fact, for me, the nicest thing about this country is that it's not trying to be that.

Poland is very much like the UK and Germany.

So you will admit that Poles have some virtues but not those two. I suppose you think Poles should count themselves lucky that a person from the enlightened West deigns to grant them even that, but let me tell you that you are making an utter fool of yourself generalizing about a nation of millions of people like that. You are a bigot and you should be ashamed of yourself.

I think it's quite obvious that you know nothing about Poland from such statements.

You need to build an image of high quality and low price, which is largely true for Polish industrial products.

That's pretty much the image of Poles too - decent quality, low price.

Have you actually been to Poland in order to see what part of their image be exportable? No, thought not. Or know first-hand how the million recent migrants are perceived in the UK? Another no? That's right.

As the poster says above, Poland's exports (people, cars, etc) are high quality and low cost. It's not a bad thing to have for Poland for now - and when they become more expensive, they should be able to build a German-style reputation for being no nonsense, seriously good products.

A great example - I'm negotiating for someone to supply some locally-produced fruit juice. It's not "sexy", the bottles aren't "cool" - but the juice is great and it's cheap. It's Polish.
a.k.
17 Dec 2011 #29
As I said, sexy and cool isn't part of anyone's perception.

Time to change that. It's a matter of a promotion and a good idea. Polish posters are fine, one can build a national brand on 3 categories:

- Polish propaganda communistic posters
- Polish school of posters - works of Starowieyski, Wałkulski, Tomaszewski are world-widely accoknoledged
- A year ago or two I saw in my city an exhibition of Polish antibolshevic posters from 1920. They are a nice art nouveau peace of work and if there had been a possibility too buy one I would have surely done it!
JonnyM 11 | 2,620
17 Dec 2011 #30
Time to change that.

Perhaps, but is it possible?

- Polish propaganda communistic posters

That sort of thing was big 20 years ago.

- Polish school of posters - works of Starowieyski, Wałkulski, Tomaszewski are world-widely accoknoledged

I quite like that sort of stuff myself, but does it have mass appeal?

Polish antibolshevic posters from 1920.

Likewise.

Like it or not, the perception of Poland around Europe is predicated by mass emigration which does not suggest chic.


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