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Poland's Murky Stream Media - Rydzyk


Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
23 Jul 2013 #1
The Good Father Tadeusz Rydzyk has described what some people call Poland's mainstream media as the MURKY STREAM MEDIA which spoon-feed the unsuspecting public with SMS (sex, music & sensation). By contrast decent media such as Radio Maryja and TV Trwam offer wholesome entertainment, good music and information as well as providing spiritual enrichment and are geared to the proper formation of the audience.
jon357 63 | 14,128
23 Jul 2013 #2
So he's pushing his own media outlets. Viewing figures show that most people prefer the mainstream to televangelism.
Harry
23 Jul 2013 #3
the MURKY STREAM MEDIA

The murky-stream media? Would that be the media in Poland which is mainly funded by a Polish-Paraguayan Nazi collaborator noted for his work with the Gestapo and excellent relationship with the South American dictator who gave refuge to the scum of the world, including Nazi war criminals such as Dr. Josef Mengele?
delphiandomine 83 | 17,718
23 Jul 2013 #4
Could Rydzyk perhaps like to explain the sources of his funding, then?

It is strange that a niche radio station has the money to keep on operating, isn't it?
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
23 Jul 2013 #5
Could Rydzyk perhaps like to explain the sources of his funding, then?

Ar lkeast Rydzyk's operation funded by free-will donations. What about Tusk and his high-living family wallowing in luxury, kids holding good jobs obtained through pull not qualificatons, travelling all over at the taxpayer's expense. That is the major difference. If you say little old Babcias are funding Rydzyk, at least they're not doing so at gunpoiint. The taxes Tusk takes from their meagre old-age pensions is olbigatory, not voluntary.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,718
23 Jul 2013 #6
Ar lkeast Rydzyk's operation funded by free-will donations.

Free-will donations? Are you sure about that? Would you perhaps like to explain why he "lost" money donated to save the shipyards? Or perhaps explain his connections to South American characters?

What about Tusk and his high-living family wallowing in luxury

Wallowing in luxury? His financial statement is there for all to see - hardly luxury.

kids holding good jobs obtained through pull not qualificatons

Sorry, but how do you know his kids didn't get there on their own accord? Just because some people obtained good positions in life by collaborating with regimes doesn't mean that everyone did. As for qualifications, as I recall, his son is well qualified in his own right and his daughter has a very popular internet blog. And you?

The taxes Tusk takes from their meagre old-age pensions is olbigatory, not voluntary.

I don't seem to recall Jaroslaw Kaczynski doing anything about the taxation of the old.
jon357 63 | 14,128
23 Jul 2013 #7
Free-will donations? Are you sure about that? Would you perhaps like to explain why he "lost" money donated to save the shipyards? Or perhaps explain his connections to South American characters?

This is one of the most significant things about that particular media business. Alleged funding from abroad by a character with a warrant out for them.
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
23 Jul 2013 #8
his son is well qualified

Well qualified to hobnob with the AmberGold/OLT Airline scam artist.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,718
23 Jul 2013 #9
And as Tusk said at the time - everybody makes mistakes.

Then again, what he did was nothing much at all, unlike those who represented the brutal PRL regime and acted as a mouthpiece.
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
23 Jul 2013 #10
You keep bringing up the shipyard business but I don't recall you providng any evidence. There was something about Piasecka Johnson many years ago, but did that have anything to do with the Good Father? Clarify if you can.

I seem to remember Tusk promising Poles he would save one of th shipyards and allegedly has a dependable Arab-world buyer. It tutrned out to be a fiasco, yet another unkept promise. You never mention that, do you? You win the Partisan of the week award.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,718
23 Jul 2013 #11
You keep bringing up the shipyard business but I don't recall you providng any evidence.

radiomaryja.pl.eu.org/arch/history.htm

A group of shipyard experts and lawyers was assembled accompanied by other people offering their generous help. Financial resources were also collected.

What happened to the money? No shares in the shipyard were purchased by Lux Veritas, so what happened to the cash? Where is it?
sobieski 107 | 2,128
23 Jul 2013 #12
wallowing in luxury,

Such as mr maybach who most definitely did not listen to Pope Francis' reprimand about priests living in luxury?
Or the Gdańsk Archbishop, despite fact his diocese is as good as bankrupt, did find it necessary to finance a luxurious mansion to entertain his guests, because the archbishop's palace was not suitable?

And let us not forget "senior statesman" duckface who is driven around in a Skoda Superb, while he is promoting the virtues of the fourth republic...
jon357 63 | 14,128
23 Jul 2013 #13
You keep bringing up the shipyard business

And you keep avoiding the South America connection.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,718
23 Jul 2013 #14
And let us not forget "senior statesman" duckface who is driven around in a Skoda Superb

The question is - who is funding it? It's not in his financial statement - does that mean that - PiS party contributions are paying for it?

For the matter, does Jarek even have a driving licence?
Harry
23 Jul 2013 #15
And you keep avoiding the South America connection.

Given that even Radio Maryja has admitted to being funded by a noted Nazi collaborator, are you surprised that Comical Polonius doesn't have much choice other than to ignore that fact if he wants to claim that media other than RM is "murky"!
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
23 Jul 2013 #16
Skoda Superb

Nice car but not a BMW.
Harry
23 Jul 2013 #17
Do you have a point there? Do any of us drive BMWs by any chance?

What kind of car does Radio Maryja's Nazi collaborator major funder drive?
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
23 Jul 2013 #18
Who is this Nazi donor you keep mentioning?
Harry
23 Jul 2013 #19
None of us are prominent pulbic figures like Tusk or Rydzyk, so any comparison is ridiculous.

Tusk doesn't actually choose his car. And as a prominent terrorist target, he needs a suitably armoured vehicle (BMWs are some of the better and cheaper ones). Why are you so touchy about who drives a BMW?

Who is this Nazi donor you keep mentioning?

Jan Kobylanski. Apparently not a Nazi, just a Nazi collaborator noted for his work with the Gestapo.
sobieski 107 | 2,128
23 Jul 2013 #20
Nice car but not a BMW.

For the Great Leader for sure a modest Skoda Fabia should be enough. After all the 4th republic has to set a good example from the beginning.

The question is - who is funding it? It's not in his financial statement - does that mean that - PiS party contributions are paying for it?

I wonder if all the PIS in Sosnowiec knew what kind of limousine their dear leader is using.

The Social Committee of the Rescue of the Gdańsk Shipyard and Ship Industry was formed. Many Poles instantly offered their help to the liquidated shipyard.

Exactly, where did it go to?
InWroclaw 89 | 1,915
23 Jul 2013 #21
Such as mr maybach

Apparently the Maybach is a figment of the press's imagination, or so he allegedly said in some interview recently. I'll try to get the link. I don't know, don't shoot the messenger!

As for qualifications, as I recall, his son is well qualified in his own right and his daughter has a very popular internet blog. And you?

Which reminds me, what actually happened regarding the allegations of his son in the Amber Gold mess?

wbj.pl/article-60054-pm-under-pressure-over-sons-role-in-amber-gold-scandal.html
jon357 63 | 14,128
23 Jul 2013 #22
the Maybach

The allegation was true, though not as true as the media hoped. He had one, but it was only rented rather than bought. I wonder how much it cost to hire and who paid...
Harry
23 Jul 2013 #23
a) It wasn't 'his', it was one of the companies which he controls.
b) It was actually leased rather than rented. At that time very few companies actually bought cars, leasing was far more favourable from the taxation perspective.

c) Perhaps the bill was picked up by the Nazi collaborator who can't come to Poland. Or perhaps it was settled with funds that had been donated to 'save the shipyards'. Or maybe it was paid for with money send by little old ladies who should be counting every grosze but instead trust that the money they send to RM will be used for God's will. We'd only know if Rydzyk's empire opened its books, which it isn't willing to do: I wonder why.
jon357 63 | 14,128
23 Jul 2013 #24
Millions wonder the same thing.
InWroclaw 89 | 1,915
23 Jul 2013 #25
The allegation was true, though not as true as the media hoped. He had one, but it was only rented rather than bought. I wonder how much it cost to hire and who paid...

This interview with him in some mag (I don't know anything about it) called Sieci No 28 (32) 15-21/07/13 (page 21, bottom paragraph) suggests the Maybach is a myth.

tygodnikmlodejpolski.pl/jedna-koncesja-dla-katolikow-to-za-malo-pnews-223.html

W trakcie rozmowy o. Rydzyk odniósł się również m.in. do pojawiających się na jego temat doniesień prasowych, jakoby jeździł najdroższym samochodem świata: "Nawet nie wiedziałem, co to jest ten maybach. Jeden z naszych ojców zadzwonił do "Gazety Pomorskiej", która to podała. Zapytał, dlaczego piszą nieprawdę. A redaktor na to cynicznie odpowiedział, że może to i nieprawda, ale już fakt prasowy. Czyli to nadal działa tak, jak w czasach komunistycznych".Google translation:

During a conversation about Rydzyk also referred to such to appear on it to press reports, allegedly drove the most expensive car in the world: "I do not even know what it is that Maybach. One of our fathers called "Gazeta Pomeranian," which it said. He asked, why write untruths. And the cynical editor replied that maybe it's not true, but the fact of release. So it still works just like in the communist era. "

Don't shoot me, I'm just the messenger! :-p
jon357 63 | 14,128
23 Jul 2013 #26
This interview with him in some mag (I don't know anything about it) called Sieci No 28 (32) 15-21/07/13 (page 21, bottom paragraph) suggests the Maybach is a myth.

He would say that. And he isn't known for truthfulness or transparency, unfortunately.
InWroclaw 89 | 1,915
23 Jul 2013 #27
Well, Jon, he also mentions that they don't actually have a helicopter but might get one if they need it because 'the other networks have one and so why shouldn't they for the purposes of spreading the gospel.' I think he also adds that the monies donated are for the purpose of spreading the word, and so what he's probably saying is he feels he can get a helicopter if that's what it takes to do the job. Of course, I can see the flaw in that argument, but perhaps if you asked little old mohair beret Beata if she'd approve of her donation going on a 'copter if it meant greater visibility for Christianity etc she might well say yes. He also adds that he has no money from it and all the money is spent on the church and religious stuff. Anyway, I dunno... btw I saw a copy, it looks like Newsweek but can't be Newsweek. I don't know where they stand. My hope is always to simply read the truth, from people with no axe to grind.
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
23 Jul 2013 #28
Exactly, where did it go to?

You're barking up the wrong tree. How in the world would I know where the money went? YOou act as if I were the Good Father's business partner. Maybe when i join the Resurrectionist Order.... (LOL)!

But if this is that important to you check around, try Googling, maybe track down some journalist who wrote about it and ask for his sources and share your findigns with PF. I'm sure many will be interested.
Harry
23 Jul 2013 #29
He also adds that he has no money from it and all the money is spent on the church and religious stuff.

Which explains why he's so often seen being driven in a Lexus 400h that costs PLN 300,000+....
InWroclaw 89 | 1,915
24 Jul 2013 #30
Well, if my neighbours on this average estate have got a pretty new if not brand new Lexus (not that one) and they're a right old bunch of chavs with a delinquent crossbreed dog*, then anyone can get one.


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