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Lodz_The_Boat 32 | 1,535
13 Oct 2009 #211
I do not answer silly questions.

However, crimes arise from desperations. Crimes are done by criminals. We must undate our law and order situation, strengthen out law enforcers...and meet the situation rightly and promptly.

This was my answer...this remains my answer.

As for your figures... done on the basis of racialism.... its not my concern. 3rd world or 100th world....we live in ONE WORLD.

There is ONE WORLD.... no other world. Thus, crimes are done by our own, human kind...our own brothers... We need to help the situation properly...not through hatred, blaming or animosity.

Before you ask 'what is the right way?' .... there are several...and more can come up on good consultation by sane experts....and brainstorming can help too.

Better schooling... arranging ratios...30% colored and 70% white kids...with teachers arranding seats etc...and doing everything neccessary so that they are always in contact with the native ppl from an early age... Moral education....classes for migrants... etc can help.
time means 5 | 1,309
13 Oct 2009 #212
crimes are done by our own, human kind...our own brothers... We need to help the situation properly...not through hatred, blaming or animosity.

Seriously dude lay off the funny fags for a while!
Foreigner4 12 | 1,768
13 Oct 2009 #213
I do not answer silly questions.

What's so silly about hard evidence?

And how exactly would you suggest doing that? What would undated laws look like to you (in terms of combating violent crime from 3rd world immigrants)?

As for your figures... done on the basis of racialism..

Well I have to remind you AGAIN, THEY ARE NOT MY FIGURES, I didn't have a hand in creating them but even if they were done on the basis of racialism, can you explain why you don't think they are still valid? I mean if I wanted to find out how many supported a policy in a given city based on race then my numbers would be perfectly valid regardless of the stats. Please explain on what logical grounds you can dismiss them.

its not my concern.

But why aren't those numbers your concern? Is it because you don't have to live with the problem created by violent crime due to immigration from 3rd world countries or another reason?

Better schooling... arranging ratios...30% colored and 70% white kids

But what if the immigrants (particularly muslim) object to this and want their children to not have contact with infidels?
Why should children be shipped around and native european families be made to suffer for your ideas? When have those ideas when implemented proven to work?

There is ONE WORLD.... no other world. Thus, crimes are done by our own, human kind...our own brothers... We need to help the situation properly...not through hatred, blaming or animosity.

I already told you, that's how you get 3rd world immigrants to see you as a mark. Like it or not, they speak the language of violence and violent reprisal is the only way to get through to those straight off the boat. Speak their language just like you would any other animal.
lesser 4 | 1,311
13 Oct 2009 #214
90 would be heterosexual, 10 would be homosexual

Statistic from PC handbook. So I must be an idiot to not notice that 10% of my family, school buddies on all levels, co-workers and people that I ever met are homosexuals. From my own observation it would be about 1% .

History is written by man.

In the face of feminists!! :)

I would replace "Humans", with "Europeans". Then your statement would had made sense. The rest of the world hasn't really made this planet any different.

Some other civilizations (however not all) also had periods of greatness.

Foreigner4

Lets simply agree to disagree when needed.

Never. European or from any continent...its all same. We all are humans...one race...HUMAN RACE.

Why don't you start verify your utopian doctrines by travelling yourself to some African country and trying to live and love over there. As you know very well people over here have no intention to participate in your social experiments. If you want to convince them, you must leave.

I'm disappointed by your refusal to recognize Bahaism as a religious version of Marxism. I should be thanked that I show you something that you failed to notice before. Be a man and deal with it instead write the same empty slogans over and over.

Just like the Bible is not applicable in todays world...

We can say that Catholicism practically New Testament. What you find not applicable in it? If not the Catholic Church Europeans could not stand up from barbarity that they were trapped after collapse of Roman Empire.

Speak their language just like you would any other animal.

Here I disagree, they should be treated better than other animals. In the long run their civilization have a chance to be improved. There is also chance that they will absorb western style of life (hopefully without its weaknesses). So, higher civilization should serve as an example.
Foreigner4 12 | 1,768
14 Oct 2009 #215
Here I disagree, they should be treated better than other animals. In the long run their civilization have a chance to be improved. There is also chance that they will absorb western style of life (hopefully without its weaknesses). So, higher civilization should serve as an example.

That's all well and nice but what do you do when you have violence coming from 3rd world immigrants? These people do not come from currently successful civilizations and have been raised with different attitudes and completely different ways of thinking. This poses two problems to your approach towards the situation:

The 1st one is straightforward enough. Let's be honest, these people by and large do not enrich the society to which they immigrate to. They do not improve the standard of living to those around them. They do not bring stability to the people of the nations which take them in. They are a burden for the tax-payer and bring little if any value to the society.

The 2nd one requires some thinking but is still easy enough to grasp.
They do not think like you or I if they come from war torn places or areas with tribal warring. It is hard for some people to comprehend that others don't think like them but when someone comes from a country where rape isn't looked down upon then I got news for you, that someone and you are worlds apart. You're not gonna convince them any different either, it's too hard wired into them. You simply have to use the language they're most likely to listen to if and only if they become violent or aggressive in your house.

If you try to ********* around with people who don't flinch at acting out violently and consider being non-violently arrested and placed in a comfortable police car a joke then you're seen as easy prey. I don't advocate the state handles its business any differently, I advocate people getting together and knocking some heads on their own. Everyday people gotta get medieval on crime when it crosses their path. Why be a victim?
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893
14 Oct 2009 #216
Foreigner4

You're wasting your breath or should I say key strokes as people who live in Poland have absolutely no idea, maybe they should have a look at this link to give them an idea of what goes on, on the streets of England with our lovely multi-cultural society.

timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article554401.ece

The above article is from 2005, they probably just dont bother reporting it in the news papers anymore its that commonplace.
OsiedleRuda
14 Oct 2009 #218
You're wasting your breath or should I say key strokes as people who live in Poland have absolutely no idea.

Tracking down the cars remained the primary focus of the investigation rather than pinning down the rapists' nationality, he said.

Yeah, because cars gang-rape, not animals... ffs.
BritishEmpire - | 148
15 Oct 2009 #219
It just goes to show how sh@t the UK has become. You know this isn't the worst thing that i know of, up north there are groups of pakis that gang rape teenage white girls but because the girls are white and the police don't want to offend the muslim community they do very little about stopping it. One female politician even went as far as trying to excuse what they had done by saying it was acceptable in islam to have sex before marriage if it was with a none muslim so this was the reason why they targeted white girls.

Fu*kin crazy or what!
RevokeNice 15 | 1,859
15 Oct 2009 #220
Organise a guerilla army. Have you not learned anything from us?
1jola 14 | 1,879
15 Oct 2009 #221
Tell me what the "other peoples" of this earth has done, that you find so magnificent.

Here is a not so short list:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_inventions

Of course, that civilization is somewhat suffering from that great European invention-communism.
OP DariuszTelka 5 | 193
15 Oct 2009 #222
Hello 1jola!

I see you found me here too!

I respect the chinese and how they have adapted and compete in the new world. Their citites are full of sky scrapers, their economy is booming, their science is highly developed. But all these inventions you sent a link to are more likely to come from white european people that settled and lived in China thousands of years ago. They dissapeard due to the fact they were not enough of them, and like in the rest of the world, like ancient Egypt, South Americas, parts of Africa, they either became part of the ethnic masses that eventually came or they moved on. Check out the last link, the video, bronze were already there when the chinese official history begins. So, paper, printing, gunpowder, compass etc...it was already there. The chinese settled and took credit for it. What did they invent after all these things? Nothing. That's because the white people left or were incorporated in the chinese population, loosing their white genetics. You will see this happened in Egypt, Persia, South America, Easter Island etc.

In Search of the Blonde-Haired, Blue-Eyed Chinese;

powerhousemuseum.com/walkingthewall/index.php/2006/07/29/in-search-of-the-blonde-haired-blue-eyed-chinese/

Roman descendants found in China?

telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1541421/Roman-descendants-found-in-China.html

2,700 Year Old Blond-Haired, Blue-Eyed Mummy Found In China;

asiafinest.com/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t146001.html

Genghis Khan's Blue Eyes;

white-history.com/earlson/genghis.htm

Mummies Prove It: Once, China Was Inhabited by White People;

news.softpedia.com/news/Mummies-Proves-it-Once-China-Was-Inhabited-by-White-People-43301.shtml

Genetic Evidence of Europeans in Ancient China;

white-history.com/china.htm

History channel video of white mummy's found in China;

disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/5905/White_Mummies_in_China_mysterie/

Dariusz

P.s. Communism was invented by the jews, not white people;

wake-up-america.net/jews_and_communism.htm
jewwatch.com/jew-occupiedgovernments-USSR.html
anton888 - | 82
15 Oct 2009 #223
DariuszTelka

All the inventions in the world are from white european. The 4 ancient culture, China, Egypt, India and Babylon are all built by white European. They leave their countries and go to other continent, build all these things, invent all the languages. Perhaps those history found more than 5000 years ago is actually written by white european. After that, they move back to Europe, wait 1000 years or more and then start their own history. To be precise, these european are Polish.

Is there anything more funny than this?
OP DariuszTelka 5 | 193
15 Oct 2009 #224
Why is this funny? You actually wrote the truth.

Do I have to actually post and link Egypt, India and Babylon for you too, like I did with China? If you use Google and open some history books you will soon find out that White Europeans actually did all these things. Just ask yourself this question first:

What has those places you mentioned done since the day the white european lived there?

And what has Europe, USA and Australia done?

Dariusz
mvefa 5 | 591
15 Oct 2009 #225
Why is this funny? You actually wrote the truth.

whahahahahaha man, we have here an empty headed people! Dude i have been reading all the bullsh*t that you wrote,,haha man, you claim white superiority but you are just showing plain ignorance.

Middle east was thriving , while white europeans were organized in tribes and wearing fur. What has the rest of the world achieved? well to start with Ink, gunpowder, paper, compass came from China, there were not white europeans there at that time idiot! haha Math came from the Arabs, medicine was way ahead in the middle east before the renassaince. Cirgury was practice in the Inkas empire while we did not know it all in Europe.

Agriculture was far advanced in the mayas/inka empires while there was starvation across Europe.

Man really, before you open your mouth, read not only european texts, but universal ones, you will find out much and much has been achieved by other peoples than europeans, its just a fact, so stop being a little white-trash idiot who bashes other races out of ignorance.
anton888 - | 82
15 Oct 2009 #226
Yes, you are right. Is not funny but is the truth. Pls tell more people about it. I think the truth should not be hidden. People in the world should know that white European actually start history in other continents before they have their own.

Thank you, I learn alot from you. That's why Polish have 1 of the highest IQ in Europe and 1 of the most well educated as well.

Bless you.
OP DariuszTelka 5 | 193
15 Oct 2009 #227
@mvefa

Ok, here is what you argued with;

"Emty headed people", "********", "White superiority", "Idiot", "Little white-trash idiot".

But you failed to address the links that I posted earlier. And you fail to address the links I will post soon.

Please read what I write before you go off on your rants and use foul language. It only makes you come off as an actual idiot.

Again - What has these cultures/peoples that you mentioned made since all these fantastic discoveries that you mention? The "thriving" communities as you put it. Did they suddenly make themselves super-intelligent and then become dumb again? How can you explain how the Inkas built super advanced structures and then have never built anything like it again? How come the Arabs discovered mathematics and astronomy, but today have nothing? How come the Egyptians live in poverty and build nothing, when they could build structures that even today would almost be impossible to build even here in Europe? All the cultures you mentioned have done nothing since they built these marvellous structures so many thousand years ago.

Why? What happened? War? Floods? Alien abduction? Or maybe the people who actually built them disappeared. And where did we suddenly see magnificent structures and buildings turn up? In Europe and America. Hm, what a coincidence.

The difference between what I claim and what you claim is that logic is on my side. And you have words like idiot and ignorant. Congratulations.

I win.

Dariusz
mvefa 5 | 591
15 Oct 2009 #228
The difference between what I claim and what you claim is that logic is on my side. And you have words like idiot and ignorant. Congratulations.

No dear, it's just that you are really talking nonsense here. what makes you come to the conclusion that white people built the Inka empire, the chinese and other empires,, really? what? its just funny dude.

And let me tell you something, the reason is the following, empires have cycles, it goes round and round, they reach their top and then they come crashing down. Look at china, was a mighty and powerfull empire, then went to hell and now its coming up again as a super power. Some nations will, some not, its just how it goes.

Another example, the british empire, was once great and all mighty, ruled over 7 seas. And what is it now? a little pet from the US. if the president of the USA says jump, the prime minister of the UK says: how high?... you would have not expected this 100 years ago.

but just to finish, thinking the way you do, have only brought disaster to humanity, just think of hittler, the kukusklan. based on the same thoughts you have...so dont play with fire cause you might burn yourself little boy.
SeanBM 35 | 5,812
15 Oct 2009 #229
White superiority

Norwegian Empire?
Norwegian inventions?
Well done on the cheese cutter with out it we would all surely be lost.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Norwegian_inventions
OP DariuszTelka 5 | 193
15 Oct 2009 #230
Obviously you are reading more into what I write than I actually do. I have never spoken about supremacy or that the white race is superior. I have only stated facts. Now you are rambling on about civilization cycles and the UK as the US pet, and you talk about hitler and the Ku Klux Klan. You almost had the whole list, the only thing missing is Neo-nazi, skinhead, anti-semite, homophobe, babykilling, wifebeating, fascist!

This is why people can't have a normal discussion about politics or history, because of people like you who scream racist and hate the second you hear something that your politically correct brain can't comprehend. I know what I'm talking about, I went to the same educational school system as you did. But what sets me apart from you, I can actually have a self-produced thought. I don't need to regurgitate what my teachers, or TV has told me.

Why am I playing with fire? Where do you get all these clich├Ęs from? And little boy...well, at 6ft 5 and 220 pounds, I might be a bit bigger that you think.

Dariusz

P.s. I will TRY to put up links and answer WHY I THINK the european white people had a hand in almost everything we consider civilizations, work of art, science, architectual wonders etc.
mvefa 5 | 591
15 Oct 2009 #231
Well consider this conversation over until you come with concise ( i mean not wikipedia or some blog) about the Europeans building the Inca,Maya,Chinese,Persian,Babylonian empires.

This is gonna be fun!
OP DariuszTelka 5 | 193
15 Oct 2009 #232
Hehe...talk about the Vikings...and what they did in Europe. No, not the same old bullcrap about raping and pillaging...but actual history of their achievements. The Norse people had art, science, crafts, a complex religion, poetry, swordmanship, battleknowledge, making high speed ships, cities, exploring lands (America), The people of the North also settled in Russia..(The RUS tribe), we could cover great oceans and exchanged goods and crafts with all the european people. Even as far down as Asia. But we all came from that region thousands of years before that. Who invented the Caste system? Who were signed as warriors and head guards for the Grand Muftis and leaders in the east? Vikings, with their ferocious power and skills they made the best fighters. And this was thousands of years ago.

Todays Norway excel in the fields of Oil and gas, subsealevel technology, arctic science stations, development of multiple fields of science like heart and brain transplants. We build underwater tunnels, tunnels through enormous mountains, oil tankers, the most advanced sea vessels with sonars and rescue possibilities, opera houses, culture centers, modern museums that win awards, and are in the forefront in computer technology. We also had a guy out at the Space station a couple of weeks ago.

And for Norwegian inventions. There are hundreds, if not thousands of them. There are millions of Norwegians all over the world who have made technology and progress possible. Remember Norway is the best country in the world to live in. (United Nations report 2009)..well, hehe, I know, the cheese cutter, paper clip, electronic hotel key and my favourite...the sixpack plastic holder. All this from a country with the population the size of a big town in the US. But I have to admit, that we lag behind..those damn Swedes...but they are twice as many as us. And the Finns aren't that far behind.

For that matter, ALL EUROPEAN countries qualify under what I just wrote above. All in their own way. Without them, we would be living a completely different life.

Again...this is all very lovely. But if Norway continues importing religious fanatics from the middle east and Africa at the level we do today, then this society will be in the history books soon.

Dariusz
mvefa 5 | 591
15 Oct 2009 #233
Who were signed as warriors and head guards for the Grand Muftis and leaders in the east?

Funny that he is proud of the savageness of his people of old.
Lodz_The_Boat 32 | 1,535
15 Oct 2009 #234
How to water the the shoot of love...when there is no seed of love in thy heart!
For love to blossom, let the heart be soft ...
Let the heart be fetile...let the thought rise aloft!

Thy heart is Love's home, sanctify it for its descent. Thy spirit is its place of revelation,
cleanse it for its manifestation.

While there is time, learn to love.

I know, non of my or any ones argument, talks can change a stone into a fertile land which gives rise to the life of love. You also know it... Wits and Cunningness belong to the material world, just as hatred and animosity. These exist till the remaining portions of your mortal life...however, will leave your side as the shadow leaves when there is dusk.

Wisdom however, is eternal. Just as love and compassion is. Hold it tightly is you dont want to slip in the bottomless pit of anxiety and helplessness.

The world will be one. Human's are not animals.... We might have their physical features, but we are not them. The Human-kind was created to prevail. Out of all its pitfalls, childish past... and great threats.... It is here, was here...and will be in a more bright and strong way.

As for animals, they deserve our love, care and protection. I believe strongly that te flower shouldnt be picked to give to your beloved...instead you give a flower bucket with soil in it... so that it may live.

The animals shouldnt be kept in cages...instead set free in their preserved natural habitates.

And ofcourse...please...let the birds fly...they look more beautiful in the sky and branches.

As for humans... let them progress, let them realise their true nature....Kindness, forgiving, loving, compassionate, united, progressive, spiritual and social.
OP DariuszTelka 5 | 193
15 Oct 2009 #235
Mvefa:

Jeezus...you really do nitpick don't you....I am proud of their "savageness"? No I'm proud of their power and skills! Do not mix this up with your interpretation of what a fighter is. You didn't get to be the bodyguard of a king because you were "savage". Again...you don't really want to have a contructive debate, but search for single words and passages that you can focus on... It doesn't actually aspire me to debate with you, so if that is all you can come up with, then maybe you should go to a kids forum or a politically correct leftist forum where you all can agree that Europeans are evil and that the burka is not a death-cloth, but a sign of liberation.

Dariusz
mvefa 5 | 591
15 Oct 2009 #236
As for humans... let them progress, let them realise their true nature....Kindness, forgiving, loving, compassionate, united, progressive, spiritual and social.

Does this also applys to homosexuals?

Again...you don't really want to have a contructive debate, but search for single words and passages that you can focus on...

Whahaha come one dude! the only reason i dont take you seriously is because you stated that all the civilizations were built because of the white people, sorry but that is just STUPID. So they found a white mummy in China! my god alert the church elders, this means europeans built China..really seriously? i think you can do better than that.

Vikings were known always as savages, so deal with it. Because of their violent, cruel, merciless behaviour they were hire for security. That's it.

And yeah, i prefer to be a liberal than being a supremacist, who try to find aaaaany possible reason to prove that the white race is the only one with intelligence and creativity. The rest is unworthy, unintelligent and plain useless, right? that is what you are implying.
SeanBM 35 | 5,812
15 Oct 2009 #237
For that matter, ALL EUROPEAN countries qualify under what I just wrote above.

Why do you stop just at Europe?

I have just read Jared Diamond's "Guns, Germs, and Steel".

The prologue to the book opens with an account of Diamond's conversation with Yali, a New Guinean politician. The conversation turned to the obvious differences in power and technology between Yali's people and the Europeans who dominated the land for 200 years, differences that neither of them considered due to any genetic superiority of Europeans. Yali asked, using the local term "cargo" for inventions and manufactured goods, "Why is it that you white people developed so much cargo and brought it to New Guinea, but we black people had little cargo of our own?"

You are asking an interesting question but I would not jump to any conclusions.
anton888 - | 82
15 Oct 2009 #238
Vikings, with their ferocious power and skills they made the best fighters. And this was thousands of years ago.

Vikings had thousands, again thousands years of history? How many thousands? I just ask those who actually born in Scandinanvia, I mean born there, native not those immigrants went there during communist era from some eastern countries. They said different. Strange, but I guess they don't know anything about their ancestors.

Thank you Dariusz, again you make my eyes open, and pls, could you go to the education ministry in Norway and make sure that they will teach their people the right history since you know better?
Lodz_The_Boat 32 | 1,535
15 Oct 2009 #239
Does this also applys to homosexuals?

I have given a post in that thread regarding homosexuals, why dont you see that. Here it seems there is another topic.

However, yes, homosexuals are humans too, and acquiring virtues is the right of every human. Realizing true potential and understanding true human nature is the duty of every human being.
Seanus 15 | 19,704
15 Oct 2009 #240
Homosexuals are humans too, LOL. You are a hoot, lad! Acquiring virtues is noble :)

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